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Thread: Out of the mouth of babes
JediBloodRaven wrote:
So I'm at home playing swg, and my brother who has never played swg EVER walks over to watch me play SWG.
He asks me what I'm playing and I tell him Star Wars Galaxies. So he keeps watching me play, as I'm playing I'm fighting an Ancient Krayt Dragon with 4 other jedi helping me.
We are droping dead left and right. After we are all killed by 1 Dragon my brother say's so you are jedi? Yes, his replies aren't light sabers supposed to cut through anything? I just look at him.
Now if someone who has not even played this game can clearly see that Jedi is not what it really should be... How can the devs not?
Does Lucas realy know what they have done to a game that bares his trademark? I'm starting to think Lucas Arts has no clue what the devs are doing behind their back.
Heres the answer.
Game balance.
Durzel wrote:
You should've probably answered "wouldn't be much of a game if one class which anyone can get trivially just annihilates everything else without a second thought".
If Jedi were rare in this game, they could be the all-powerful race they should be. Since every man and his dog nowadays is a Jedi, or on the road to becoming one, they have to be balanced alongside everything else. How anyone can not understand this is beyond me.
I wouldnt mind being on the road with everyone else (other profession!) *IF*:
- no loss of xp during death
- getting 5000 xp when killing something
- boxes NOT starting at novice 20k, tier 1: 200k, tier 2: 400k, tier 3: 800k. tier 4: 1.6m, master: 3.2m
- not forced PvP
Then Iwouldn't mind to be compare EQUAL to a normal double mastery...
Also note, I'm HAPPY with my jedi toon. But this whole situation is not balancing... It's close to exploiting, even if SOE claims it's working as intended. The CU has FAILED!
Message Edited by Dariane_Kamutsovy on 10-25-2005 12:49 PM
JediBloodRaven wrote:So I'm at home playing swg, and my brother who has never played swg EVER walks over to watch me play SWG.
He asks me what I'm playing and I tell him Star Wars Galaxies. So he keeps watching me play, as I'm playing I'm fighting an Ancient Krayt Dragon with 4 other jedi helping me.
We are droping dead left and right. After we are all killed by 1 Dragon my brother say's so you are jedi? Yes, his replies aren't light sabers supposed to cut through anything? I just look at him.
Now if someone who has not even played this game can clearly see that Jedi is not what it really should be... How can the devs not?
Does Lucas realy know what they have done to a game that bares his trademark? I'm starting to think Lucas Arts has no clue what the devs are doing behind their back.
Shoulda just told him, 'Well they really should have never been in the game anyways.'
Take jedi out of the main game and give us our own content and PVP FRS and you could have Cannon Jedi in this game. If you think otherwise your a bit thick TBH. Sorry but its so obvious that I cant be too PC today with posts like this.
Just use a little thought needed
Id say poster named Kal_Choedan is correct ....
if we had a FRS that gives us our own PvP and quests realted to Jedi...like Jedi Vs Dark Jedi...and a quest sytem for padawaons and /master to quest up too the point of being able to go to knight trials.... (gee kindaa like in the movies) then once in the system spend ther etime fighting oppisng Jedi..... they woudl effective end the start port duelers.... the GCW griefers .... and normal players would be happy..... and Jedi would be out of sight.....
simple answers in a complex enviroment.....
if the game was like the movies you would only get 2 sith and 2 jedi on every server and you would be in hiding ,its only a game.
Durzel wrote:
You should've probably answered "wouldn't be much of a game if one class which anyone can get trivially just annihilates everything else without a second thought".
If Jedi were rare in this game, they could be the all-powerful race they should be. Since every man and his dog nowadays is a Jedi, or on the road to becoming one, they have to be balanced alongside everything else. How anyone can not understand this is beyond me.
Agreed. It also escapes me how someone uses the above tol explain why Jedi is one of, if not is THE, weakest combat class out there until fully templated .Then how someone would further use the above to explain why Jedi, who even by TODAYS standards, which are different than when I got Jedi, it takes 16-20 weeks of a grind from nothing to FS to Paddie to "knight" when available vs. the max of 1 week grind for a profession that today owns even the best of PvP Jedi Templates.
Balance? You preach Balance? Ok....Here is MY vision of Balance based on yoru arguments....and many others:
- Make Jedi a TIME unlock. You have to be a 1 year vet to get it.
- Make the "grind" for Jedi as hard as it is for a MBH/MCM or MBH/MSL now
- No forced PvP
- NO XP loss.
- Give Jedi a skill for 75% armor Break....or let them wear armor.
- Eliminate Jedi from the GCW. ((to stop the "visibiliy" and Hiding stuff)) You'd still have to live with them in PvE arenas.
WHEN this happens, I would have a small regret....for when I was working for, and achieving Jedi, it was a lesser known path and relatively low count of Jedi. BUT, If you WANT balance, it HAS to go ALL ways....not just the way that benefits BH's.
Make the damn profession JUST like the rest.....let WS's craft our sabers. Let them be a dime a dozen like a very nice FWG or Scatter. And eliminate this stupid TUNING system all together.
You want Balance. Then by god, argue for it, and MAKE IT BALANCED.
I understand completley what your saying , but lets clear one thing up. you posted outta the mouth of babes which clearly is ( hot chicks , good looking women , etc) . What i think you meant was outta the mouth of babies. Surely your brother is not a babe. Ok thats it for now.
Message Edited by KingoftheGrind on 10-25-2005 05:30 AM
KOLBROOKIE wrote:
well if the saber can cut you in half a blaster bolt can blow the back of your chest out? oh wait we fire water pistols right ?
if the game was like the movies you would only get 2 sith and 2 jedi on every server and you would be in hiding ,its only a game.
There ARE only 2 sith in SWG.
We really need to be balanced with jedi and not non-jedi........