Jedi Archive
Thread: Mdef or MLS?
then its not a pre cu jedi with a good saber and 330 accuracy. fact is that once a m.def is armor broken he takes about as much damage as not having any def at all,
RJUK wrote:
Pday wrote:
the main problem with the m.def/m.ls/3-0-0-0 heal/0-0-0-2 enhancer is that it cant keep up with the damage a pre cu saber + m.ls with force speed can dish out.
Kev0r wrote:
RJUK wrote:
Not when they get smacked in a face with a pre-CU 918 Max damage saber LOL.
Daytona wrote:
Ya, I am definitely not a God at PvP either.
*drools at thought of having good saber*
I practice against a friend of mine that I think is a Master Healer. Anyone that says Healer sucks, needs to fight them. They will give you a run for their money.
I really feel bad for the people that are only getting post cu pearls. I at least have 2 prems in mine.
Hehe, I doubt anyone has that high a saber....even with 4 perfect pearls, the base stats would have to be 438 max damage....a more realistic figure is about 740 max damage.
A good pre CU 2h saber and 0404LSwill beat just about any post CU saber, even with MLS. I think players have to get past this mental block regarding the lack of premiums and start making use of what resources we DO have. I'm aware of many players who can tune up to at least 100 from a "good" or "quality". Four of those in a 250 base damage saber will still get you up to 650'ish damage, nothing to moan about I'm sure.
As for templates, the MLS/MDEF mainstay is great for actually achieving goals in the game, but you are basically a top-of-the-range swordsman/doc. The lack of anything "flashy" puts people off; no force run or cloak or roots or meditate. But as far as actually fighting opponents and lasting the distance goes, it can't be beaten by other jedi templates. And that's what matters for me at the end of the day. Ask any MLS/MDEF if they think jedi are 1.5 x the power of other profs, and 99% of them will say yes.
yes you can though, I have had Aura and Infusion running and I could stay alive for a very long time. I can hold at least 4 Jedi on me, anymore than that, I would have to either pop a synthsteak or an AI.
RJUK wrote:
I know a few people would agree with me on this but...
Master Defender is only nice with one template IMO.
Master Sabers // Master Defender // 3000 Healer // Enhancer 0002
Personally I think this template is the best for PvP & PvE.
I was this for a long time on one of my Jedi, then switched the template to MLS, MEnh, 4040 Heal because Defender was "boring"
After a month or so, I realized the only special in Enhancer I actually used consistently was FR3..
and that was to get form point a to b.
Stasis was nice and it had a little more glitz and so forth, but I found myself still wanting to "tank" everything. So on Rayn, which was still MDef, I stayed with the above. And I am playing that all the time now. I just love being a tank. The glitz and glamour for me is just swinging the glowing whiffle bat...![]()
I will be changing to MLS/Mdef/3000heal/2000enh when my lady friend is temped tho. I only use channel consistently when grinding. but with so much xp stored, I will not rule a return to 0002enh out..
Not that the 600k would be terrible if I didn;t have it stored ![]()
Message Edited by StarDryfter on 09-21-2005 09:14 AM
Had this. It's pretty good, but excels at nothing. One man's all-around is another's mediocre. I do not currently see the use of MLS, no faster than a non-master, so once you have your 12pt ADK'd saber(s) made you are just a few skill tapes away from being as accurate as a master anyhow and can spend the SP elsewhere.
Message Edited by Don_T_Shoot on 09-21-2005 12:23 PM
Id go with the MLS template.. I just love LS..
Its just so flashy and cool.. Defender cant compete for style
Don_T_Shoot wrote:
LOL, ok. Because that one special you get at master is so cool?
eternalfool wrote:
Don_T_Shoot wrote:
LOL, ok. Because that one special you get at master is so cool?
Its actually 2And its more the specials from the 2 extra trees than those two.. I can slash around for ages before i get an animation repeat, looking like a frenzied dervishing (not the special but the adjective) dark sider, striking with random precision at my multutious foes before i am bested by the sheer numbers of envious brutes..Or do I just love the roleplay part?
Two specials but only one new animation. From a style perspective, I would hate to be stuck with just 2H animations...yuck (or worse, stuck with using a double bladed). 1H is a little "overly flowerly" at times shall we say, but it's got panache.
Don_T_Shoot wrote:
eternalfool wrote:
Don_T_Shoot wrote:
LOL, ok. Because that one special you get at master is so cool?
Its actually 2
And its more the specials from the 2 extra trees than those two.. I can slash around for ages before i get an animation repeat, looking like a frenzied dervishing (not the special but the adjective) dark sider, striking with random precision at my multutious foes before i am bested by the sheer numbers of envious brutes..
Or do I just love the roleplay part?
Two specials but only one new animation. From a style perspective, I would hate to be stuck with just 2H animations...yuck (or worse, stuck with using a double bladed). 1H is a little "overly flowerly" at times shall we say, but it's got panache.
Amen to that..