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Thread: Mdef or MLS?

Don_T_Shoot
Wed Sep 21, 2005 10:09 am
#27

true on accuracy. Very doubtful on speed.








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Saereth
Wed Sep 21, 2005 10:13 am
#28

With crappy pearls like Talo has the extra speed from MLS is seen greater, if you have a good speed saber already dimishing returns means you dont see alot of speed increase, for him however he would. Granted there is the cooldown timer /base attack speed bugs, but there are work arounds so its all good.




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Saereth
Wed Sep 21, 2005 10:21 am
#29

Because I know for a fact he doesnt have those yet and with au'kuans nerfed tapes have been going up for auction less and less often




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Don_T_Shoot
Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:42 am
#30

What I was getting at is not the modified speed listed on your saber, which does pretty much nothing unless you only use /saberhit. I was more talking about what you seen in the combat log, MLS is no faster.








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TaloKarrde
Wed Sep 21, 2005 3:13 pm
#31

so mls seems important, is mls 4440 def 3002 enh 4000 healing enough armor?



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Nakafeldt
Wed Sep 21, 2005 3:16 pm
#32

Truth is: both or either works.


It doesnt matter what you chose young padawan. The fight is in you and how you chose to use your skills.


I have seen master powers/lightsaber or defender defeat the same enemies.







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Saereth
Thu Sep 22, 2005 12:02 am
#33






Don_T_Shoot wrote:
What I was getting at is not the modified speed listed on your saber, which does pretty much nothing unless you only use /saberhit. I was more talking about what you seen in the combat log, MLS is no faster.





no one's taught you the joys of macroing to attack at your modified speed I guess




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Don_T_Shoot
Thu Sep 22, 2005 12:11 am
#34

Nope and couldn't figure it out on my own. Unlucky and not bright, it's my key to success.








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2rickmm
Thu Sep 22, 2005 12:15 am
#35




Pday wrote:





Kev0r wrote:





RJUK wrote:





Daytona wrote:

Ya, I am definitely not a God at PvP either.


*drools at thought of having good saber*


I practice against a friend of mine that I think is a Master Healer. Anyone that says Healer sucks, needs to fight them. They will give you a run for their money.



I really feel bad for the people that are only getting post cu pearls. I at least have 2 prems in mine.





Not when they get smacked in a face with a pre-CU 918 Max damage saber LOL.







Hehe, I doubt anyone has that high a saber....even with 4 perfect pearls, the base stats would have to be 438 max damage....a more realistic figure is about 740 max damage.


A good pre CU 2h saber and 0404LSwill beat just about any post CU saber, even with MLS. I think players have to get past this mental block regarding the lack of premiums and start making use of what resources we DO have. I'm aware of many players who can tune up to at least 100 from a "good" or "quality". Four of those in a 250 base damage saber will still get you up to 650'ish damage, nothing to moan about I'm sure.


As for templates, the MLS/MDEF mainstay is great for actually achieving goals in the game, but you are basically a top-of-the-range swordsman/doc. The lack of anything "flashy" puts people off; no force run or cloak or roots or meditate. But as far as actually fighting opponents and lasting the distance goes, it can't be beaten by other jedi templates. And that's what matters for me at the end of the day. Ask any MLS/MDEF if they think jedi are 1.5 x the power of other profs, and 99% of them will say yes.


I just wanted torespond to this part - "Hehe, I doubt anyone has that high a saber....even with 4 perfect pearls, the base stats would have to be 438 max damage....a more realistic figure is about 740 max damage." I don't know if it's true, personally, but some people claim to have sabers that are, well, I guess exploited, or bugged or whatever, enabling more than 4 pearls or crystals. So these sabers may have so so pearls/crystals in them, but a bunch of them, and they have a resulting extraordinarily high max damage. I guess you could report such a person to a CSR if you see one in action.



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TaloKarrde
Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:11 am
#36

so a temp like

mls/3404 enh/0040 def/4000 healing (with a few points to throw around)

would be enough defense and a managable force cost for maintaining it?



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ThereIsPassion
Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:25 am
#37



Get melee def. & Improved Force aura 4x4x instead of enhancer x4xx FA since you wont master 2 master boxes = around 800 less force points without 2 master boxes.

Just eat dodge food..
And remember always to dizzy,blind,stun,bleed your opponent

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Antaro
Thu Sep 22, 2005 12:24 pm
#38

I say this...


MLS

Enh 3402

Def 4040 or 0440

Heal 4000


ThereIsPassion
Thu Sep 22, 2005 12:52 pm
#39



I'm

LS x4x4
Mdef
Enh 3xx4
Heal 42xx

Max dmg on my saber is about 645

But I eat Mbh/mcm with RIS/Uber ArmorBreak sliced armor for breakfast.

Only problem atm is against a MLS Jedi with a great preCULightsaber because of my limmited damage and sick force cost.


Meditate is great as Mdef because of the AI force cost

...AndI don't have any problems against Msword/mcm or other melee temps sure they do AB but ill just KD them instead buying myself more time while they heal.


Message Edited by ThereIsPassion on 09-22-2005 12:56 AM

Message Edited by ThereIsPassion on 09-22-2005 01:46 AM



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