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Thread: Mdef or MLS?
0404 Lightsaber
4000 Healing
3004 Enhancer
OR
MLS
0040 Defense
4000 Healing
3404 Enhancer
I am a MLS/MD and it is boring. I enjoy slicing through opponents, so it must be the defender part that is boring to me....
I am thinking of taking something similar to your 2nd option. Plus, worse case scenario, if you feel like your defenses isn't what it needs to be with your fighting style, you can always grind a bit again. It takes no time at all to grind jedi anymore.
RJUK, I have that exact template and I struggle against Jedi with Improved Force Sap. It goes 50/50 for me.
(MLS/MD, Healer 3xxx, and Enhancer xxx2)
My saber isn't great though and I know that is a major factor in it. If I remember right, my max damage is only around 640 or so.
Message Edited by Daytona on 09-21-2005 04:19 AM
Daytona wrote:
RJUK, I have that exact template and I struggle against Jedi with Improved Force Sap. It goes 50/50 for me.
My saber isn't great though and I know that is a major factor in it. If I remember right, my max damage is only around 640 or so.
I have yet to fight a Master Enhancer with all those roots though too.
I do well against PvE, but not so hot with PvP.
Oh damn. Well... I know 3 people who have this template and i'm 1 of them, the other 2 are infact god's at PvP...but they do have pre-cu pearls in their saber which did turn out to be -9 FC 120 Damage on all 4. But no action modifiers. I gotta tell you I run out of action too...it's not just you bro, but yeah I know what ya mean...it's better to have a really good saber.
Ya, I am definitely not a God at PvP either. 
*drools at thought of having good saber*
I practice against a friend of mine that I think is a Master Healer. Anyone that says Healer sucks, needs to fight them. They will give you a run for their money.
I really feel bad for the people that are only getting post cu pearls. I at least have 2 prems in mine.
Not when they get smacked in a face with a pre-CU 918 Max damage saber LOL.
Daytona wrote:
Ya, I am definitely not a God at PvP either.
*drools at thought of having good saber*
I practice against a friend of mine that I think is a Master Healer. Anyone that says Healer sucks, needs to fight them. They will give you a run for their money.
I really feel bad for the people that are only getting post cu pearls. I at least have 2 prems in mine.
RJUK wrote:
Not when they get smacked in a face with a pre-CU 918 Max damage saber LOL.
Daytona wrote:
Ya, I am definitely not a God at PvP either.
*drools at thought of having good saber*
I practice against a friend of mine that I think is a Master Healer. Anyone that says Healer sucks, needs to fight them. They will give you a run for their money.
I really feel bad for the people that are only getting post cu pearls. I at least have 2 prems in mine.
Hehe, I doubt anyone has that high a saber....even with 4 perfect pearls, the base stats would have to be 438 max damage....a more realistic figure is about 740 max damage.
A good pre CU 2h saber and 0404LSwill beat just about any post CU saber, even with MLS. I think players have to get past this mental block regarding the lack of premiums and start making use of what resources we DO have. I'm aware of many players who can tune up to at least 100 from a "good" or "quality". Four of those in a 250 base damage saber will still get you up to 650'ish damage, nothing to moan about I'm sure.
As for templates, the MLS/MDEF mainstay is great for actually achieving goals in the game, but you are basically a top-of-the-range swordsman/doc. The lack of anything "flashy" puts people off; no force run or cloak or roots or meditate. But as far as actually fighting opponents and lasting the distance goes, it can't be beaten by other jedi templates. And that's what matters for me at the end of the day. Ask any MLS/MDEF if they think jedi are 1.5 x the power of other profs, and 99% of them will say yes.
TaloKarrde wrote:
Mdef
0404 Lightsaber
4000 Healing
3004 Enhancer
OR
MLS
0040 Defense
4000 Healing
3404 Enhancer
I used to be LS x4x4, MDef, Heal 41xx and Enh 4xx4 - Similar to option1
But i changed to LS x444, MDef, Heal 4xxx and Enh 3xx2 - so that i could have a few more attacks and damage
I have also toyed with the idea of the temp MLS, Def 444x, Heal 4xxx and Enh 3xx3 but i don't really want to lose Master Defender... We'll just have to see how it works out 
the main problem with the m.def/m.ls/3-0-0-0 heal/0-0-0-2 enhancer is that it cant keep up with the damage a pre cu saber + m.ls with force speed can dish out.
Kev0r wrote:
RJUK wrote:
Not when they get smacked in a face with a pre-CU 918 Max damage saber LOL.
Daytona wrote:
Ya, I am definitely not a God at PvP either.
*drools at thought of having good saber*
I practice against a friend of mine that I think is a Master Healer. Anyone that says Healer sucks, needs to fight them. They will give you a run for their money.
I really feel bad for the people that are only getting post cu pearls. I at least have 2 prems in mine.
Hehe, I doubt anyone has that high a saber....even with 4 perfect pearls, the base stats would have to be 438 max damage....a more realistic figure is about 740 max damage.
A good pre CU 2h saber and 0404LSwill beat just about any post CU saber, even with MLS. I think players have to get past this mental block regarding the lack of premiums and start making use of what resources we DO have. I'm aware of many players who can tune up to at least 100 from a "good" or "quality". Four of those in a 250 base damage saber will still get you up to 650'ish damage, nothing to moan about I'm sure.
As for templates, the MLS/MDEF mainstay is great for actually achieving goals in the game, but you are basically a top-of-the-range swordsman/doc. The lack of anything "flashy" puts people off; no force run or cloak or roots or meditate. But as far as actually fighting opponents and lasting the distance goes, it can't be beaten by other jedi templates. And that's what matters for me at the end of the day. Ask any MLS/MDEF if they think jedi are 1.5 x the power of other profs, and 99% of them will say yes.