Jedi Archive
Thread: What do cloakers do now?
Ged_FM
Fri Sep 16, 2005 7:28 pm
#14
Well I'd like an ability for Master Powers then for a Force Illusion like Assume Identity where you could mask yourself as any NPC or player in looks and title. Then you could walk around as a rebel but have everyone who sees you think your an NPC imp officer. Or even assume the looks of other players. Look like another player and probe droids would report to the Bh what player you curently look like. Then have the BH mistakenly attack that other player.
Smron
Fri Sep 16, 2005 7:54 pm
#15
Well guys I just read that Rangers will not be able to break Force Cloak, so there's now less to worry about at least.
UberNinjaOfDoom
Fri Sep 16, 2005 7:55 pm
#16
Rolf...I told you guys we should watch out for those pesky rangers !! Rolf... WE are getting nerfed by rangers...First they were picking on tailors (u rangers know what I am talking about)...now Jedi...
But seriously I will hate to see my favorite power (cloak) nerfed. We have been here long enough to know that by reading crap like "Force Cloak now adhere to a common rule-set that falls in line with the new hiding/stealth system introduced with the Ranger revamp." means we are getting screwed. Not sure how yet...but its coming ...
But seriously I will hate to see my favorite power (cloak) nerfed. We have been here long enough to know that by reading crap like "Force Cloak now adhere to a common rule-set that falls in line with the new hiding/stealth system introduced with the Ranger revamp." means we are getting screwed. Not sure how yet...but its coming ...
shafar
Fri Sep 16, 2005 7:56 pm
#17
Helios_SOE wrote:
Phenix1050 wrote:
also, will our counter-camo skills be able to detect Jedi and Rifleman.Currently, Force Cloak is considered to be a mind-trick - hence it cannot be detected by someone trained to see inconsistencies in their surroundings (such as is the case with "Detect Camouflage"). Riflemen, on the other hand, will probably be vulunerable.
p897t98
Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:11 pm
#18
There is a counter to the i-win button that is cloak, OH MY GOD.
p897t98
Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:13 pm
#20
I dont know what you are all worried about, how many rangers do you see ? lol
UberNinjaOfDoom
Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:22 pm
#21
p897t98 wrote:
There is a counter to the i-win button that is cloak, OH MY GOD.
It is "I do not lose" button... Get your facts straight !!!
I love the fact that Rangers are getting a revamp (I had a ranger toon for a very long time myself, so I know just how much they need the love)..I am not too crazy that they are streamlining cloak with the rest of those stealth abilities, because we like the way cloak works atm.
p897t98
Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:23 pm
#22
UberNinjaOfDoom wrote:
p897t98 wrote:
There is a counter to the i-win button that is cloak, OH MY GOD.
It is "I do not lose" button... Get your facts straight !!!
I love the fact that Rangers are getting a revamp (I had a ranger toon for a very long time myself, so I know just how much they need the love)..I am not too crazy that they are streamlining cloak with the rest of those stealth abilities, because we like the way cloak works atm.
Thats what I wanted to say, just couldnt think of a catchy phrase
Nathanielstarr
Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:28 pm
#23
Oh my god you jedi do not want any other professions to be any good at all do you?
Quiet420
Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:41 pm
#24
rangers cannot "reveal" cloaked jedi....jedi cloak is considered a mind trick, rangers can reveal riflemen and other rangers...check the dev tracker
DigitalMice
Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:47 pm
#25
BioEngine wrote:
DigitalMice wrote:
I was thinking...
Maybe every profession should have all the same specials. Better yet, how about swg just does away with all professions and we just have ONE. ...
wait.. isn't that what we have now.. since the cu?
We asked for concealment from visual and radar first, glowy-boy.
As I suspected, your kind and Riflemen were testing it out for us.
lol
I LOVE NUBS!!
Flent
Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:34 am
#26
See, here's the issue. I've been playing this game for 2 years (/getvet: You have 707 days logged for veteran rewards.).I walked uphill both ways in the snow... to go do faction missions.. without a bike... thinking maybe if I got high enough rank it would help me unlock jedi. I visited as many places as I could... I soloed a Dark Jedi Master at the prison with novice rifleman skills... and did as many other quests/missions as I could hoping that would help unlock jedi. I did the story arcs, walking across dathomir.... /mask... /burst..... /sit... /mask... /burst... /sit... for a whole evening at novice marksmen... no bike... etc.
Then, find out about the mark quests on tat. So I stroll around tatooine.. looking for some old man in a hut. Looking for a bounty hunter..... etc. To no avail.
Then, find out you have to master X professions. And the only way to figure out which professions to master... is to collect holocrons. Rare to drop.. off decently difficult mobs (at least for me at the time). And then, you have to guess at the last profession after the holo goes silent. So... after finally doing the first 4 holos.. to make it go silent... and mastering near 20 professions..... publish 9.
So... now... I have to figure out how to get /glowy. Then after getting there... (just had to finish jabba's themepark, cause i'd done everything else) Find that I get to grind force sensitive xp. Which means... I gotta kill 3 billion mobs (exxageration) and then make a 6k run across the most dangerous planet (yay for speeders now) to go turn in xp. (granted i did receive some 'free unlocks' for the professions I mastered.) So I killed all my mobs.... and finally unlocked my jedi.. YAY!
So then, I spend a ton of time... alone.. on endor... killing whatever doesn't kill me first. Freaking out when another player flies by... or jumping everytime I see an npc... praying it was more than 32m out. Scared to death to show our dearest friends our saber.. or robes.. for fear or vis... and losing all that xp by getting hunted. Dreaming of someday actually being able to show those friends.... to become a 'Master Jedi'.
Now, after slaving.. getting hunted by bounty hunters, who 90% of them get their jollies from ruining the fun of other players...... SOE supported greifing.. imho. I'm able to cloak/stasis/forcechoke etc.(/getvet: You have 707 days logged for veteran rewards.)
While nubcake_02 can take2 weeks... grind a BH/CM.... watch as my choke does 222 tohim... while his poison hits me for 330.... He Stasises...errr... pardon.... paralyzes me stacks a ton of dots on me. Can dot and attack me... while i'm cloaked (fun exploit) ... etc. Max damage on my saber is 600... (with decent damage pearls) and if he has rifle in his temp... can use a 1300 max dam lightning rifle. Has 8k energy resist armor... with armor break protection. Doesn't lose anything but maybe a touch of prideif he canbe beat by a jedi (usually one with a 'preCU saber') Is encouraged to greif other players by SOE. And....being as BH marks are.. obviously reserved for BH...they are the only ones who can take those missions.... get'elite' drops... while I gotta go kill a DJM.. if I can find one.... and hope it doesn't hit me for5200 damage. Oh.... and now.... if he does ranger he can also cloak....
I remember, back in the alpha stages, the idea was.... a single jedi master, would be able to take on a full group of 20 master non jedi. Sure there was permadeath.. and stuff planned too... which might not be such a bad idea.
And those that complain about cloak being an 'I win' button, or a 'I didn't lose' button. That's crap... Cloak.. is an ability... just like the BH has the ability to wear armor. I always tell the BHs that are greifing me for using cloak.... that I'll make a deal with them.. they take off their weapon and armor... and i'll stop using cloak.. fair trade right? Each profession gets its abilities... don't complain because a jedi..... one who wields the force.. can evade a BH using said force. Jedi are peace keepers... not trained killers. (even tho we display our peacefulness by meat grinding 4 billion bols)
So yes, I am going to gripe that some profession that can be mastered in 2 weeks... will have abilities that I've been trying for for 2 years. Reserve the Jedi Abilities. Oh oh, next... pistoleer with get strangle shot. Ormay I ask for a respec to go MBM/MCM.... so i can legally grief people.. get missions that are only available to me... and have all my jedi abilities without the jedi grind.
-Flent