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Thread: What do cloakers do now?
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Smron
Fri Sep 16, 2005 6:58 pm
#1
Upcoming to SWG:
1) Rangers can now cloak themselves, and members of their groups.
2) The Rifleman's Cover ability and a Jedi's Force Cloak now adhere to a common rule-set that falls in line with the new hiding/stealth system introduced with the Ranger revamp.
As for 2), this hints that Jedi will now have changes made to the way cloak works, most likely a nerf (Rangers might be able to break a Jedi's cloak?)
What is going on here???
Message Edited by Smron on 09-16-2005 09:14 PM
Ged_FM
Fri Sep 16, 2005 7:00 pm
#2
Lol and where did you here this silly thing?
Oh that Ranger revamp eh?
Message Edited by Ged_FM on 09-16-2005 07:07 PM
Prowlies a must see Clicky!
Grunzer
Fri Sep 16, 2005 7:01 pm
#3
Smron wrote:
Upcoming to SWG:
1) Rangers can now cloak themselves, and members of their groups.
2) The Rifleman's Cover ability and a Jedi's Force Cloak now adhere to a common rule-set that falls in line with the new hiding/stealth system introduced with the Ranger revamp.
As for 2), this hints that Jedi will now have changes made to the way cloak works, most likely a nerf (Rangers might be albe to break a Jedi's cloak?)
What is going on here???
IF the Ranger enhancements are really going to be what they say they are. I think Bounty Hunters have just gotten their Boba Fett template.
Jedi are going to be in some serious trouble if their issues don't get resolved before those ranger enhancements go into the game.
Message Edited by Grunzer on 09-16-2005 07:03 PM
Smron
Fri Sep 16, 2005 7:03 pm
#4
Ged_FM wrote:
Lol and where did you here this silly thing?
In Development: Ranger Enhancements. I wouldn't waste my time making stuff up...
Kitibacca
Fri Sep 16, 2005 7:03 pm
#5
Nah .. I saw it on too -- it's on the 'in development' board or something. I forget exactly where. I had that same concern about them changing jedi cloak, but don't have any information on whether that is going to happen or whether Rangers are just getting a weaker version of it. Rangers, according to the post I saw, are being changed into spy/thief type people. Tracking to be removed, various sneakiness things to be added in -- including pick pocket actually <blink>.
Kiti
Phenix1050
Fri Sep 16, 2005 7:04 pm
#6
Rangers camoing others will freeze them in their tracks.
There will also be counter-stealth specials, so being in one spot won't be all that usefull if your group has a Ranger too.
Simply put, this is a great addition to the game.
jokerbacca
Fri Sep 16, 2005 7:04 pm
#7
Grunzer wrote:
Smron wrote:
Upcoming to SWG:
1) Rangers can now cloak themselves, and members of their groups.
2) The Rifleman's Cover ability and a Jedi's Force Cloak now adhere to a common rule-set that falls in line with the new hiding/stealth system introduced with the Ranger revamp.
As for 2), this hints that Jedi will now have changes made to the way cloak works, most likely a nerf (Rangers might be albe to break a Jedi's cloak?)
What is going on here???
IF the Ranger enhancements are really going to be what they say they are. I think Bounty Hunters have just gotten their Boba Fett template.
Jedi are going to be in some serious trouble if their issues don't get resolved before those ranger enhancements go into the game.
It's a little early, but yes this is exactlly my take on this as well. Another build vs Jedi. Not a call for a nerf or a complaint, just how I see the proposed changes.
Grunzer
Fri Sep 16, 2005 7:05 pm
#8
Kitibacca wrote:
Nah .. I saw it on too -- it's on the 'in development' board or something. I forget exactly where. I had that same concern about them changing jedi cloak, but don't have any information on whether that is going to happen or whether Rangers are just getting a weaker version of it. Rangers, according to the post I saw, are being changed into spy/thief type people. Tracking to be removed, various sneakiness things to be added in -- including pick pocket actually .
Kiti
According to the info, the new ranger cloaking ability is going to be the new standard for jedi cloak and rifleman's /cover. The rulesets will be changed to follow whatever the new ranger ability is basically.
DigitalMice
Fri Sep 16, 2005 7:09 pm
#9
I was thinking...
Maybe every profession should have all the same specials. Better yet, how about swg just does away with all professions and we just have ONE. ...
wait.. isn't that what we have now.. since the cu?
Oerivo
Fri Sep 16, 2005 7:11 pm
#10
Smron wrote:
(Rangers might be albe to break a Jedi's cloak?)
What is going on here???
How might a non-force skill be used to break a force-based skill? If anything it makes sense to be the reverse. Of course, this is SOE that we are talking about, and in their world, it would make perfect sense that a normal humanoid using his mighty morphing power ranger skills might be able to overcome the power of the force. I would not hit the panic button, but i agree there is some marginal reason for concern.
Culex
Fri Sep 16, 2005 7:11 pm
#11
Phenix1050 wrote:Rangers camoing others will freeze them in their tracks.There will also be counter-stealth specials, so being in one spot won't be all that usefull if your group has a Ranger too.Simply put, this is a great addition to the game.
QFE
Grunzer
Fri Sep 16, 2005 7:12 pm
#12
From a BH standpoint I really like those changes.
From a Jedi Standpoint, I'm really worried about those changes. I think it will be more important than ever to get the issues with powers/sabers/speed modsfixed before this makes it onto the live servers. IMO. a BH that can cloak just like a Jedi is going to be a scary thing. On the flipside of this, it should spice up PVP quite a bit once they fix a few things with Jedi.
Looking for that blue dot? What blue dot? "You have been incapacitated" oh, THAT Blue dot.
Message Edited by Grunzer on 09-16-2005 07:15 PM
Smron
Fri Sep 16, 2005 7:16 pm
#13
Q FREAKING FE
Oerivo wrote:
Smron wrote:
(Rangers might be albe to break a Jedi's cloak?)
What is going on here???
How might a non-force skill be used to break a force-based skill? If anything it makes sense to be the reverse. Of course, this is SOE that we are talking about, and in their world, it would make perfect sense that a normal humanoid using his mighty morphing power ranger skills might be able to overcome the power of the force. I would not hit the panic button, but i agree there is some marginal reason for concern.
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