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Thread: What do cloakers do now?

UberNinjaOfDoom
Sat Sep 17, 2005 3:55 am
#27



Flent wrote:
See, here's the issue. I've been playing this game for 2 years (/getvet: You have 707 days logged for veteran rewards.).I walked uphill both ways in the snow... to go do faction missions.. without a bike... thinking maybe if I got high enough rank it would help me unlock jedi. I visited as many places as I could... I soloed a Dark Jedi Master at the prison with novice rifleman skills... and did as many other quests/missions as I could hoping that would help unlock jedi. I did the story arcs, walking across dathomir.... /mask... /burst..... /sit... /mask... /burst... /sit... for a whole evening at novice marksmen... no bike... etc.
Then, find out about the mark quests on tat. So I stroll around tatooine.. looking for some old man in a hut. Looking for a bounty hunter..... etc. To no avail.
Then, find out you have to master X professions. And the only way to figure out which professions to master... is to collect holocrons. Rare to drop.. off decently difficult mobs (at least for me at the time). And then, you have to guess at the last profession after the holo goes silent. So... after finally doing the first 4 holos.. to make it go silent... and mastering near 20 professions..... publish 9.
So... now... I have to figure out how to get /glowy. Then after getting there... (just had to finish jabba's themepark, cause i'd done everything else) Find that I get to grind force sensitive xp. Which means... I gotta kill 3 billion mobs (exxageration) and then make a 6k run across the most dangerous planet (yay for speeders now) to go turn in xp. (granted i did receive some 'free unlocks' for the professions I mastered.) So I killed all my mobs.... and finally unlocked my jedi.. YAY!
So then, I spend a ton of time... alone.. on endor... killing whatever doesn't kill me first. Freaking out when another player flies by... or jumping everytime I see an npc... praying it was more than 32m out. Scared to death to show our dearest friends our saber.. or robes.. for fear or vis... and losing all that xp by getting hunted. Dreaming of someday actually being able to show those friends.... to become a 'Master Jedi'.
Now, after slaving.. getting hunted by bounty hunters, who 90% of them get their jollies from ruining the fun of other players...... SOE supported greifing.. imho. I'm able to cloak/stasis/forcechoke etc.(/getvet: You have 707 days logged for veteran rewards.)
While nubcake_02 can take2 weeks... grind a BH/CM.... watch as my choke does 222 tohim... while his poison hits me for 330.... He Stasises...errr... pardon.... paralyzes me stacks a ton of dots on me. Can dot and attack me... while i'm cloaked (fun exploit) ... etc. Max damage on my saber is 600... (with decent damage pearls) and if he has rifle in his temp... can use a 1300 max dam lightning rifle. Has 8k energy resist armor... with armor break protection. Doesn't lose anything but maybe a touch of prideif he canbe beat by a jedi (usually one with a 'preCU saber') Is encouraged to greif other players by SOE. And....being as BH marks are.. obviously reserved for BH...they are the only ones who can take those missions.... get'elite' drops... while I gotta go kill a DJM.. if I can find one.... and hope it doesn't hit me for5200 damage. Oh.... and now.... if he does ranger he can also cloak....
I remember, back in the alpha stages, the idea was.... a single jedi master, would be able to take on a full group of 20 master non jedi. Sure there was permadeath.. and stuff planned too... which might not be such a bad idea.
And those that complain about cloak being an 'I win' button, or a 'I didn't lose' button. That's crap... Cloak.. is an ability... just like the BH has the ability to wear armor. I always tell the BHs that are greifing me for using cloak.... that I'll make a deal with them.. they take off their weapon and armor... and i'll stop using cloak.. fair trade right? Each profession gets its abilities... don't complain because a jedi..... one who wields the force.. can evade a BH using said force. Jedi are peace keepers... not trained killers. (even tho we display our peacefulness by meat grinding 4 billion bols)
So yes, I am going to gripe that some profession that can be mastered in 2 weeks... will have abilities that I've been trying for for 2 years. Reserve the Jedi Abilities. Oh oh, next... pistoleer with get strangle shot. Ormay I ask for a respec to go MBM/MCM.... so i can legally grief people.. get missions that are only available to me... and have all my jedi abilities without the jedi grind.
-Flent





I am waiting for someone to start flaming, but a lot of us Pre-9 Jedi feel the same way. Most templates now can be mastered over the weekend, and rival Jedi... BH proffesion gets a lot of benefits for vary little time investment.... And they say you can not get something to nothing.. .Cloak was one of the last things I had a lot of fun with...

I don’t' think that Jedi should be an exclusive uber-class...Devs should stop nerfing Jedi and introduce other super-classes. Make people actually work for them.. (about the same time as getting and grinding Jedi). Maybe then a lot of us would not feel like we wasted so much time for nothing..



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Naeho
Sat Sep 17, 2005 3:58 am
#28

I doubt Mranger/MBH will work very well, without secondary skills in another ranged profession BH isnt the
best with Dmg dealing, even with some ub3r weaps the damage isnt much.





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DigitalMice
Sat Sep 17, 2005 4:29 am
#29






Flent wrote:

See, here's the issue. I've been playing this game for 2 years (/getvet: You have 707 days logged for veteran rewards.).I walked uphill both ways in the snow... to go do faction missions.. without a bike... thinking maybe if I got high enough rank it would help me unlock jedi. I visited as many places as I could... I soloed a Dark Jedi Master at the prison with novice rifleman skills... and did as many other quests/missions as I could hoping that would help unlock jedi. I did the story arcs, walking across dathomir.... /mask... /burst..... /sit... /mask... /burst... /sit... for a whole evening at novice marksmen... no bike... etc.


Then, find out about the mark quests on tat. So I stroll around tatooine.. looking for some old man in a hut. Looking for a bounty hunter..... etc. To no avail.


Then, find out you have to master X professions. And the only way to figure out which professions to master... is to collect holocrons. Rare to drop.. off decently difficult mobs (at least for me at the time). And then, you have to guess at the last profession after the holo goes silent. So... after finally doing the first 4 holos.. to make it go silent... and mastering near 20 professions..... publish 9.


So... now... I have to figure out how to get /glowy. Then after getting there... (just had to finish jabba's themepark, cause i'd done everything else) Find that I get to grind force sensitive xp. Which means... I gotta kill 3 billion mobs (exxageration) and then make a 6k run across the most dangerous planet (yay for speeders now) to go turn in xp. (granted i did receive some 'free unlocks' for the professions I mastered.) So I killed all my mobs.... and finally unlocked my jedi.. YAY!


So then, I spend a ton of time... alone.. on endor... killing whatever doesn't kill me first. Freaking out when another player flies by... or jumping everytime I see an npc... praying it was more than 32m out. Scared to death to show our dearest friends our saber.. or robes.. for fear or vis... and losing all that xp by getting hunted. Dreaming of someday actually being able to show those friends.... to become a 'Master Jedi'.


Now, after slaving.. getting hunted by bounty hunters, who 90% of them get their jollies from ruining the fun of other players...... SOE supported greifing.. imho. I'm able to cloak/stasis/forcechoke etc.(/getvet: You have 707 days logged for veteran rewards.)


While nubcake_02 can take2 weeks... grind a BH/CM.... watch as my choke does 222 tohim... while his poison hits me for 330.... He Stasises...errr... pardon.... paralyzes me stacks a ton of dots on me. Can dot and attack me... while i'm cloaked (fun exploit) ... etc. Max damage on my saber is 600... (with decent damage pearls) and if he has rifle in his temp... can use a 1300 max dam lightning rifle. Has 8k energy resist armor... with armor break protection. Doesn't lose anything but maybe a touch of prideif he canbe beat by a jedi (usually one with a 'preCU saber') Is encouraged to greif other players by SOE. And....being as BH marks are.. obviously reserved for BH...they are the only ones who can take those missions.... get'elite' drops... while I gotta go kill a DJM.. if I can find one.... and hope it doesn't hit me for5200 damage. Oh.... and now.... if he does ranger he can also cloak....


I remember, back in the alpha stages, the idea was.... a single jedi master, would be able to take on a full group of 20 master non jedi. Sure there was permadeath.. and stuff planned too... which might not be such a bad idea.


And those that complain about cloak being an 'I win' button, or a 'I didn't lose' button. That's crap... Cloak.. is an ability... just like the BH has the ability to wear armor. I always tell the BHs that are greifing me for using cloak.... that I'll make a deal with them.. they take off their weapon and armor... and i'll stop using cloak.. fair trade right? Each profession gets its abilities... don't complain because a jedi..... one who wields the force.. can evade a BH using said force. Jedi are peace keepers... not trained killers. (even tho we display our peacefulness by meat grinding 4 billion bols)


So yes, I am going to gripe that some profession that can be mastered in 2 weeks... will have abilities that I've been trying for for 2 years. Reserve the Jedi Abilities. Oh oh, next... pistoleer with get strangle shot. Ormay I ask for a respec to go MBM/MCM.... so i can legally grief people.. get missions that are only available to me... and have all my jedi abilities without the jedi grind.


-Flent







Amen lol You just owned everyone here. No ONE can respond to that. I couldn't have said it better myself.


Here's a crazy idea. How about instead of removing abilities in the game we just fix them? Call me crazy, but seems like the right way to run a game. Especially ONE that a lot of us have paid for since BETA on multiple accounts.


wait.... nahh.. scratch that. Just remove abilities and tell us to regrind.



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Durzel
Sat Sep 17, 2005 4:40 am
#30



Flent wrote:
See, here's the issue. I've been playing this game for 2 years (/getvet: You have 707 days logged for veteran rewards.). I walked uphill both ways in the snow... to go do faction missions.. without a bike... thinking maybe if I got high enough rank it would help me unlock jedi. I visited as many places as I could... I soloed a Dark Jedi Master at the prison with novice rifleman skills... and did as many other quests/missions as I could hoping that would help unlock jedi. I did the story arcs, walking across dathomir.... /mask... /burst..... /sit... /mask... /burst... /sit... for a whole evening at novice marksmen... no bike... etc.
Then, find out about the mark quests on tat. So I stroll around tatooine.. looking for some old man in a hut. Looking for a bounty hunter..... etc. To no avail.
Then, find out you have to master X professions. And the only way to figure out which professions to master... is to collect holocrons. Rare to drop.. off decently difficult mobs (at least for me at the time). And then, you have to guess at the last profession after the holo goes silent. So... after finally doing the first 4 holos.. to make it go silent... and mastering near 20 professions..... publish 9.
So... now... I have to figure out how to get /glowy. Then after getting there... (just had to finish jabba's themepark, cause i'd done everything else) Find that I get to grind force sensitive xp. Which means... I gotta kill 3 billion mobs (exxageration) and then make a 6k run across the most dangerous planet (yay for speeders now) to go turn in xp. (granted i did receive some 'free unlocks' for the professions I mastered.) So I killed all my mobs.... and finally unlocked my jedi.. YAY!
So then, I spend a ton of time... alone.. on endor... killing whatever doesn't kill me first. Freaking out when another player flies by... or jumping everytime I see an npc... praying it was more than 32m out. Scared to death to show our dearest friends our saber.. or robes.. for fear or vis... and losing all that xp by getting hunted. Dreaming of someday actually being able to show those friends.... to become a 'Master Jedi'.
Now, after slaving.. getting hunted by bounty hunters, who 90% of them get their jollies from ruining the fun of other players...... SOE supported greifing.. imho. I'm able to cloak/stasis/forcechoke etc. (/getvet: You have 707 days logged for veteran rewards.)
While nubcake_02 can take 2 weeks... grind a BH/CM.... watch as my choke does 222 to him... while his poison hits me for 330.... He Stasises...errr... pardon.... paralyzes me stacks a ton of dots on me. Can dot and attack me... while i'm cloaked (fun exploit) ... etc. Max damage on my saber is 600... (with decent damage pearls) and if he has rifle in his temp... can use a 1300 max dam lightning rifle. Has 8k energy resist armor... with armor break protection. Doesn't lose anything but maybe a touch of pride if he can be beat by a jedi (usually one with a 'preCU saber') Is encouraged to greif other players by SOE. And.... being as BH marks are.. obviously reserved for BH... they are the only ones who can take those missions.... get 'elite' drops... while I gotta go kill a DJM.. if I can find one.... and hope it doesn't hit me for 5200 damage. Oh.... and now.... if he does ranger he can also cloak....
I remember, back in the alpha stages, the idea was.... a single jedi master, would be able to take on a full group of 20 master non jedi. Sure there was permadeath.. and stuff planned too... which might not be such a bad idea.
And those that complain about cloak being an 'I win' button, or a 'I didn't lose' button. That's crap... Cloak.. is an ability... just like the BH has the ability to wear armor. I always tell the BHs that are greifing me for using cloak.... that I'll make a deal with them.. they take off their weapon and armor... and i'll stop using cloak.. fair trade right? Each profession gets its abilities... don't complain because a jedi..... one who wields the force.. can evade a BH using said force. Jedi are peace keepers... not trained killers. (even tho we display our peacefulness by meat grinding 4 billion bols)
So yes, I am going to gripe that some profession that can be mastered in 2 weeks... will have abilities that I've been trying for for 2 years. Reserve the Jedi Abilities. Oh oh, next... pistoleer with get strangle shot. Or may I ask for a respec to go MBM/MCM.... so i can legally grief people.. get missions that are only available to me... and have all my jedi abilities without the jedi grind.
-Flent



QFE

I'm feelin' ya on all those points - especially the wandering around Tatooine for days on end looking for Altruism, Intellect spawns, etc (only to find they are bugged when they do spawn). Your comments about the days before swoops etc also brought a forced smile to my face - I remember those (painful) days...

Everything you've said is spot on, but unfortunately this game is now catering for those who want to just pick it up and master a profession 2 days later.

Top post that man!



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Atz_Breh
Sat Sep 17, 2005 4:42 am
#31

Camouflage Self: (Camouflage Skill Mod) This skill uses a planet specific camouflage kit to conceal the ranger in a wilderness environment. Movement not allowed, however posture changes are.
BladeWaker
Sat Sep 17, 2005 4:45 am
#32


Re: What do cloakers do now?



answer asy., they can go roleplay some more elohel





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Turd_Ferguson523
Sat Sep 17, 2005 4:47 am
#33


Smron wrote:
What do cloakers do now?




Find more professions to cry nerf to I'm sure.

Message Edited by Turd_Ferguson523 on 09-17-2005 06:53 AM



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Naeho
Sat Sep 17, 2005 5:08 am
#34

go cry the world is ending in the BH forums?

If only...





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Doori
Sat Sep 17, 2005 5:17 am
#35

ya know after reading this post im concerned with the fact that only a VERY FEW of you are actually in support of a obviously broken class and im talking broken since launch finally getting fixed, you all will figure out a way to over come the abilities that are put forth in the future itll just take time and planning but pleasure for pete sakes, give us Rangers its dues.
Naeho
Sat Sep 17, 2005 5:28 am
#36

Ranger deserve there revamp, they need love.

But this is about the apparent "nerfs" to cloak, which have not went to TC yet so this all maybe
complete BS.





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BladeWaker
Sat Sep 17, 2005 5:30 am
#37

wait omg i got a better one



Re: What do cloakers do now?



...A:they learn toostop sucking at jedi



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DigitalMice
Sat Sep 17, 2005 5:34 am
#38






BladeWaker wrote:

wait omg i got a better one



Re: What do cloakers do now?



...A:they learn toostop sucking at jedi





I killed you tonight with my non-jedi. Get a pad of paper, pen, and I'll show u how to play. k?



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Naeho
Sat Sep 17, 2005 5:36 am
#39

owned

They havent removed cloak completly from the game so They will still be here using cloak.

Just under new rules





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