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Thread: Jedi in the Combat Upgrade

ScottyFL
Mon Mar 21, 2005 7:07 am
#118






SonGouki wrote:


I see many of you asking for some "vague" responses, sowhile respecting the NDA here's a couple:




  • Nothing will be left "broken" by the Combat Upgrade changes...


  • I can't give my honest opinion about anything in the CU until they open up the testing servers and I have a chance to play a (polished) version...






Son, if nothing is left "broken" by the devs in the Combat Upgrade, then it will be the first time in SWG history that this has ever happened.


I love ya, Son, but I ain't holdin' my breath on that one.

Aries1
Mon Mar 21, 2005 7:21 am
#119

Song: Thanks for poping in to update us. NDA is frustraighting. Let the Dev's now this is causing some issue.
Dribbling out in complete info leave more questions then answears and sparks panick.

Right now it' looks like the MBH will be the be all end all class, don't think that is the case since elite profession haven't been laied out yet, but Jedi do have concerns on Tanks comments that one MBH will be a match for 1 jedi. since we are force into possible 5 on 1 encounters Jedi should be considerably more powerfull then a MBH to compensate for that advantage that BH possess. Also the salivating for MBH/MC is growing Will this be possible? If so we are already seeing the new FOTM, thought the CURB was suppose to eliminate this?

With all that specific question for the next trick info doc the dev's give us.

Jedi Healing tree: Considering the changes this whole tree becomes almost wothless. What will happen to it?

Jedi Sabers: Obviously with only one target pool sabers are affected, What will be done do the Saber trees?

Damage types: Saber look like their damage type is changeing. If so Do we now get Protection on our Robes? Will our saber damage be Increased?

Enhancer: Channel force how will this work now? Also to a lesser degree is Force Armor affected and how? from the Armor docs armor is changing this might affect our shields.

Force Wielder: Windup and cool down, does it affect this Tree? Damage types for attacks, is Force lighting just Electric or does it also get energy?

Mind Blast? , Choke?, Weaken? All were designed with multiple pools in mind so how will they change.

Jedi toughness and saber toughness, since saber damage seems to be going away how will these work now?(could make MD the new FOTM if not)

6m melee range. Our specials currently have an 18m range, cone, area, we being reduced? Will saber throw/fr be unnerfed?
Will saber block be changed?


Just a few questions I want answeared in the next curb publication by the devs(they should do one for each profession and release them all at once)

Message Edited by Aries1 on 03-24-2005 09:54 AM

TrueBoom
Mon Mar 21, 2005 7:33 am
#120

Soungouki, while you've already said that you won't answer questions due to NDA, one can not help but see comments like THIS FROM A CORRESPONDENT and wonder exactly what is going on......



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Holzen
Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:21 am
#121






TrueBoom wrote:

Soungouki, while you've already said that you won't answer questions due to NDA, one can not help but see comments like THIS FROM A CORRESPONDENT and wonder exactly what is going on......







/Hands TrueBoom a stick

/Points to dead horse



And in case that's just an american phrase....or i'm just showing my age


To repeatedly bring up a particular topic with no chance of affecting the outcome is beating a dead horse.



He will tell us what he can when he can. And unfortunately he's on the Dev's timetable...not ours. Have a little faith...and patience.
Josue15
Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:56 am
#122






SonGouki wrote:


I see many of you asking for some "vague" responses, sowhile respecting the NDA here's a couple:




  • Nothing will be left "broken" by the Combat Upgrade changes...


  • I can't give my honest opinion about anything in the CU until they open up the testing servers and I have a chance to play a (polished) version...







SG, I hope the do balance things out. So far what I'm seeing and hearing is alot of other Correspondant happy that they will be able to one key kill a Jedi. What I don't like is the fact all other "High Damage" Profession like BH and Commando are getting the prequisted Skill lower. The means to becoming a Jedi doesn't justify the end. (atleast at first impression)


Honestly Knights


- Force Overt


- FRS which is currently broken


- No Knight Content


With these new changes all you hear are BH and Commando with illusion of taken out Jedi easily. I have no Problem with a Padawan being easly prey... A Jedi Knight (Because he is overt) should be something to fear. It should not be easy for one guy to Solo a Jedi Knight. (Which we currently have with Melee stacker Template and TKM/BH with ADK/PSG) Good luck SG


Hell yes, if they are changing are skills they better let us change our tamplates.

Message Edited by Josue15 on 03-21-2005 08:02 AM



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TrueBoom
Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:14 am
#123






Holzen wrote:






TrueBoom wrote:

Soungouki, while you've already said that you won't answer questions due to NDA, one can not help but see comments like THIS FROM A CORRESPONDENT and wonder exactly what is going on......







/Hands TrueBoom a stick

/Points to dead horse



And in case that's just an american phrase....or i'm just showing my age


To repeatedly bring up a particular topic with no chance of affecting the outcome is beating a dead horse.



He will tell us what he can when he can. And unfortunately he's on the Dev's timetable...not ours. Have a little faith...and patience.




Nonsense. Son is clearly being too conservative with information. Tanks is posting more than Son is. Son CAN post some information, he's simply choosing not to.




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Josue15
Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:20 am
#124


Trueboom

-Nonsense. Son is clearly being too conservative with information. Tanks is posting more than Son is. Son CAN post some information, he's simply choosing not to.


He choose not because like he said until they get in and start testing things. There isnoway to know how these changes will or willn't affect us. He also stated alot of stuff will change thru and after snadbox actually begins. You guys remember what the Patch 9 testing was like and remember all the changes (nerf) they did to Defender!


SG just being smart and I agree with what he is doing.



Message Edited by Josue15 on 03-21-2005 08:21 AM



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TrueBoom
Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:31 am
#125






Josue15 wrote:


Trueboom

-Nonsense. Son is clearly being too conservative with information. Tanks is posting more than Son is. Son CAN post some information, he's simply choosing not to.


He choose not because like he said until they get in and start testing things. There isnoway to know how these changes will or willn't affect us. He also stated alot of stuff will change thru and after snadbox actually begins. You guys remember what the Patch 9 testing was like and remember all the changes (nerf) they did to Defender!


SG just being smart and I agree with what he is doing.




Message Edited by Josue15 on 03-21-2005 08:21 AM



is Son being smart? That's debatable, but I always like to error on providing more information than not. I don't think, in the long run, Son is doing us any favors by keeping us in the dark.




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Holzen
Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:40 am
#126

You do understand the concept of an NDA don't you? I'm not going to debate whether tanks or any of the other correspondents have broken it, but they are walking a very fine line. Most of other correspondents comments have supporting info in Blair's CU doc. I think some of the "educated guesses" they claim to be making are much more then that, but again...that's not my call. And don't you find it odd that they decided to "retire" all the Blue Glowies today. Basically kicking them outof the correspondent forums. Could that have anything to do with comments made by former correspondents....or SOE's attempt to cut off as many possible ways of info leaking out as possible? Again, that debateable. Bottom line is SonG signed an NDA, and he intends to stick to it. You can think whatever you want about him for that, but like it or not he isdoing the right thing.
jokerbacca
Sat Mar 26, 2005 12:57 am
#127






Kovev wrote:
My biggest problem at the moment is I have no idea what skills to take, as the changes looming on the horizon will shake things up, and we really have no idea what is coming. ATM I have to choose between taking me heal from 3002 to 4004 or my LS from 0044 to Master. That is if I’m going to stand by my template, which may mean nothing now. Having no idea what is coming is frustrating. If I knew we could respec I’d worry a lot less.

I don’t fault the design team for not spilling the beans, as they are clearly still very much in the throes of working out the changes, and things are bound to change in a major way. However, certain things could be clarified, things said by people in the Sand Box. I’d just like to know the degree in which Jedi will be changed, it’s very hard to play through the template completion phase when you have no idea if your progress will mean anything in a month or two. For this reason I’ve all but stopped playing, and I know if I get into some other game I’ll not be back for awhile, if ever.

All the rumors, and leaks need officially dealt with, they are out, and the truth is better then the wild guesses. The current truth, even if changeable, is better then us believing our darkest fears are to become reality. I have faith in Son, but fear the deck is stacked against him. I sick of the prejudice against Jedi within the Dev and SWG professional community, as well.

We deserve some basic answers, it seems other professions are getting them, and we are the unique profession, the one the general answers may not all apply to. It seems to me that a smart Dev would address this community specifically in light of the fact we were told we had been balanced, and were not to be touched, and clearly are to be changed. We deserve an exploitation.





Thank you for expressing my countless hours of frustration this week so eloquently.



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VTmoon
Sun Mar 27, 2005 2:18 pm
#128






SwimMaster wrote:

hope Mhealer is worth it lol i dont want to rework my templete that much






amen to that.




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Tanks
Sun Mar 27, 2005 5:21 pm
#129






Kovev wrote:
... We deserve an exploitation.




Freudian slip?





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Cpl_Fisher
Sun Mar 27, 2005 5:30 pm
#130






Tanks wrote:





Kovev wrote:
... We deserve an exploitation.




Freudian slip?






Never........




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