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Thread: toow quest rewards = no trade :(

Grunzer
Fri Oct 14, 2005 12:34 pm
#79






omgitsJebus wrote:

Well what's the point of shelling out $30 for the 2 or 3 quests that can pertain to you?


Furthermore, since this is pretty much another blatant Jedi Themepark, why should any non-Jedi even bother with this waste of hard-drive space?






Please. Jedi are getting a funky popsicle crystal and BH's are getting a new Uber rifle that does 1250 damage. And you think it's a Jedi expansion? lol.







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omgitsJebus
Fri Oct 14, 2005 12:44 pm
#80


meant more along the lines that it'll be like the DWB..



insanely hard for regular groups, Jedi almsot required



but thats just the impression ive gotten so far




Too bad the NGE is here to stay.. till the next time SOE decides to "Upgrade" the game futher
Wolveryne40
Fri Oct 14, 2005 12:49 pm
#81



Grunzer wrote:


omgitsJebus wrote:
Well what's the point of shelling out $30 for the 2 or 3 quests that can pertain to you?
Furthermore, since this is pretty much another blatant Jedi Themepark, why should any non-Jedi even bother with this waste of hard-drive space?



Please. Jedi are getting a funky popsicle crystal and BH's are getting a new Uber rifle that does 1250 damage. And you think it's a Jedi expansion? lol.




Carrot, not popsicle. lol



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hesevot1
Fri Oct 14, 2005 12:57 pm
#82


Well great job SOE tiggs thuder heart bl what ever teh *^&% ur name is. This one goes down with ur last 50 bad ideas. alienate all ur player base next time that way none of us get left out of ur shaft party. Do uhonestly think that ne respectin player willstand for this. u know i feel as though the MMO market is on the worst tangent ever.All of these hair brained ideas here.. watch WOW to get ur bad ideas. GO PLAY WOW, after u get to lvl 60 u will quit...... go play SWG read the forums and play for 2 months if u are not a hard core gamer, well u will want to quit. The real issue here is the sudden( change exp ) (make us grp) things u guys just throw out there. What is your reasoning here. Do you all just get real caffine and suger high and start talkin cause it sure sounds like it. Im no program or MMO desinger expert, but i do know, this when more thant 90 % of the postes ( ppl that bother to post ) HATE your idea why on Gods green Earth do you keep it that way. Do you want us to quit, i mean is it your big IDEA to make a new SWG (SWG 2) what theHR double hockey sticks are you and MR LUCAS thinking. Are you guys even following the market startegies to conclusion. Would coca cola make a dog food flavored coke if it was a no Buyer. No. I MEAN U guys need to get it together. MR GATES made an Xbox cause he new it would sell. U guys make a expansion to leach 30 bucks off ur fans. I mean is ur CEO a cell phone company executive. I think i may know what is goin on. Ur all huffin gasoline and u cant really get ne good idea cause u have ur head inserted /explicit deleted/.. oh wait that is not it u r tryin to control the jedi population (U ALL FAILED)..... hmmm u want to make the credit eplosion in SWG not affect the new expansion cause way to many ppl sell cradits and the guys who dont have bank accts with 99999999 bizziliion credits in them........ um u think that if u make the game suck enoguh we will all pay u for a new one....... wait ur already doin that...... hmm some day u will have to make a desicion take care of ur payin customers as they see fit or take care of ur pocket book and make as much loot and jack as u can before the well drys up...... u as a company SUCK and ur ideas well they pretty much follow your company reputation. If ne of u playors out there stand for more of this slap stick development pls by all means continue to be rolled over,,, i mean we as a player base are the real CEO's of the company.If there is no demand for a product then there is no Market. Of course we could just try to compromise and notquit. But hey thestaff of SOE and SWG have a listneing compacity of, wait what, sry i was playin likean swg employee for a min..... the only thing that gets your attention is a mass evactuation of money from your bank account.U guys need to figure this out it is about the customer base and notin to do with the company u work for.... u think this will help..... what exactly are u tryin to get accomplished..... this aint the worst thing u guys have every done but man it rankes up there in the worst....... I personally think that the branch of SWG has some real management issues and the ppl in charge are either incompetent or there is another agenda here.... i challenge u devs to explain this..... i challenge u player to protest everythin u think is FOBAR with YOUR game cause it surely aint there game..... U pay for it u pay there salary and that is the BOTTOM LINE >>>>>>>>

Message Edited by hesevot1 on 10-14-2005 01:05 AM

DudeSicko
Fri Oct 14, 2005 1:00 pm
#83






Ifai wrote:

Imagine these cases:


You do the quest on your rifleman. The reward for the one quest is a sword. Now you have a weapon you can't use. You can't give it to your friend/alt because its untradable, so its either something you delete or place in your house. Next you do another quest that gives you a rifle. Great you can use it, but you can never get another one! You can only do a quest one time and can't get the rifle from a friend. So basically there is no point in doing most of the quest with your jedi if you have one, since they don't use looted weapons.


There might be some quests that give one ofmany different types of rewards. If you can only do the quest once, and can't trade to get the quest item, there is no way you can ever display both of those items in your house! Further limiting the amount of loot you can collect.


I know sometimes I sell my loot to others in an effort to make some extra money to buy items I need. That is no longer possible either. Since the items can only be used by you, we're told if we want to sell them to offer them to a junk dealer.....LOL....I'm sure I can really buy what I need with the 1500 credits the junk dealer gives me, compared to the million I could get on the trade forums.


Finally its the crafters who really get the shaft here. Most of the quest content involves fighting or a high danger encounter. The cl 1 crafters that we have are going to be dead instantly. If they're dead they can't do the quests, if they can't do the quests they can't get the reward schematics, and since they can't trade to get them, they are effectively removed from that content.



Please force the devs to reconsider the illogical move to make the rewards non-tradable. I know I won't be happy with that change, and neither should anyone that looks in the items and loot forums!



ifai







or place in your house: NAAAH Sinc its not tradeable, you can't drop it either, so you cant put it in your house for decoration





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master_loy
Fri Oct 14, 2005 1:22 pm
#84






DudeSicko wrote:


or place in your house: NAAAH Sinc its not tradeable, you can't drop it either, so you cant put it in your house for decoration








Not true, you can drop non-tradeable items in your own house, but no one else can pick them up. You can do that now with non-tradeable items.





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Rewd
Fri Oct 14, 2005 1:59 pm
#85

Been on the fence about this mediocre expansion until two days ago when I finally decided I wanted it. Well, this lunacy has caused a complete 180. So to SOE I say....





+Canceled+



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Liamo
Fri Oct 14, 2005 3:04 pm
#86






Cmdr_Magic wrote:
I read on another post about this that someone from beta said these items would only be nontradable during beta and that restriction would be removed in Live. Can anyone else from beta confirm or deny this?





I can deny this. It's a permamanent feature and looks like the how they are going to do things from here on out, This is from a devs mouth-I don't think I can link it, even though the Beta NDA is released.



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Imperial-Zerg
Fri Oct 14, 2005 3:35 pm
#87

BIOLINK is 10 times better than this! What good are weapons you can't slice? For commando weapons anyhow, no slice=crap weapon.





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hesevot1
Fri Oct 14, 2005 3:45 pm
#88


not to get off subject but the new weapons allow for a sqaudleaser and a BH or a combination of both in one profession to do 9k damage= 1 hit kill.




the end of the jedi problem cause they issued order 66 it looks like


i personallt think the developers and LUCAS ARTS if they r in on this are total and utter idiots. they will alienate tehre intire player base withtis bull. LOL wow sounds ok now. I wont leave till its ove. But the ways its lookin i dont know how to really take the new ideas, bring back the old staff or get a new one or jsut get a better marketing and developnet department........








GlargTheKelfn wrote:
so the devs have said almost all the new quest rewards will be no trade

im bummed








BH1978
Fri Oct 14, 2005 3:46 pm
#89



GlargTheKelfn wrote:
so the devs have said almost all the new quest rewards will be no trade

im bummed




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Wolfmann31
Fri Oct 14, 2005 5:11 pm
#90


Just for the record, to show my fight isnt just so we can get loot, wich is only 1 part of the huge, glaring issue this brings up. Considering that this loot content isnt for crafters and entertainers and non combatants even they bought the expansion to battle the "no trade", since they need to go combatant to earn em...


Here is what I posted that other place:







No drop..pah!


Should have let quests that reward weapons, be certs for the weapon instead, while recieving a basic version of the weapon.


Crafters on the other hand, could have done a quest to recieve the permanent scematic for the weapon.


Thus, those done the quest can use or build the weapons, while those not, cant.



For other content, No drop is also a pah!

What am I to do with a necklace that has no stats I can use? Sell it to a junk vendor? Thats how much the quest rewards are worth? how..epic is that?

Meanwhile, I bet there are people that could have had a use for the things I don't.


Seems to me Blixtv, that you guys forgot theres a player economy going here, and forgot that there's more than just combat in this game.

For the record:


Entertainers. A once large community of socializers, that came to SWG from every MMORPG and Star Wars fanclub out there, to finally have a place in the Star Wars universe, as a social profession. That community is now dead. The inability of SOE to combat afk play, the removal of any use of the profession outside of what buff bots could provide, and the inability of SOE to expand on the non combatant concept..well, could almost say that socializing was killed soon after birth in this game.


Crafters: A once large and interesting community of people who wanted to do other things than fight. They wanted to build an economy and setup shops in SWG. they wanted to be the traders you see in the movies and books. Now? they are jedi alts, because at every step this game has taken since day 1, the crafters have been neglected and SWG devs have taken every step to make their craftsmanship "not matter".



And this expansion dear Blixtv, just continue to walk the path that you and the devs have stayed on, the path of destruction for anyone but combatants that want jedi. You can say whatever you like, but it's obviously that you don't understand what has happened ingame with the non combat communities.






Thats how I want it, free trade, have to do the combatant quest to learn to use + a minor version of the weapon/item, while crafters/ents do a non combatant quest that opens up for them to craft the item, limitless scematic. Win win situation.





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Drakenya
Fri Oct 14, 2005 5:39 pm
#91

Can't wait to kill a N-K like guy and not be able to use the random drops, then not be able to give them to friends that can use them, and not be able to trade someone for the gun I wanted, or not be able to sell them to make some cash, or not buy what I can use. What is the point of doing quests? So I can sell something to a junk dealer for 100 creds? Yay! ... Oh yeah, I forgot, this is no fun at all.




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