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Thread: Miss Exceptional Weapons?
Alristico wrote:
Pday wrote:
no, with 90% composite, 40% psg + exo protein wafers, dodge food and a nice assortment of DOT weapons they were pretty much a joke to kill.
Alristico wrote:
Pday wrote:
90% energy composite + 40% PSG + exo protein wafers and laugh at those weapons.
Alristico wrote:
Buzziewaaba wrote:
Alristico wrote:
exceptional weapons were stupid unless you actually had one. I don't know why you can't see that. You may have enjoyed being "separate" from the rest but try and justify it.
Message Edited by Alristico on 09-29-200510:43 AM
So life is a fair sack of potatoes? We all just need to get along? This is crap I'm sorry, by saying this all CA and AA drops should have some sort of LS attribute on them. With that then everyone should have their own PLC and BL the first time they go to the DWB. Things in the game need to stay rare, why else would you play? Point being that I loved exceptional and legendary weapons yet I never had one. I love mando armor and jetpacks now do I own one? I loved the NS bicep and until recently had never purchased one. I think these weapons where great for the game, give you a goal to shoot for.
There are two types of people those who set goals and work to accomplish something and those that want everything handed to them. Keep smoking the pot Hippie.
Message Edited by Buzziewaaba on 09-29-200507:43 PM
Well good for you. Sounds like you've heard of these weapons but you've never experienced them. Just imagine having fun with a bunch of your friends pvping, you guys are doing really good untill one guy, just one guy, uses strafe shot and one-hit kills you all.
If you have experienced them then the only other reason why you would act like this is that you though you might eventually loot one so that you could make the game unfair for everyone else.
btw I don't know why you insulted me for sticking up for most of the players in this game who would like to see more variety in weapons but don't want players looting stuff thats 10 times better than the perfect crafted enhanced counterparts.
the funniest part was when you alluded to me wanting everythinghanded to me without givingany examplesor evidence of even just one thing that I wantedhanded to me lol.
that is obviously untrue. Plz be more specific. What you just said proves nothing. Plus those who had these crazy weapons had money pouring out their eyeballs so its not like they didn't have access to this stuff too. And if you're laughing at his exceptional weapon then I guess he wouldn't even notice that you were shooting him with your regular crafted twinkieweapon.
your dmg scaling is obviously exaggurated.
and with 90% composite, 40% psg + exo protein wafers, dodge food and a nice assortment of (exceptional) DOT weapons what were you?
i didnt own a single exceptional, im just one of those players that try to find counters to most things, and the counter to an exceptional weapon was 2 things : damage reduction and damage avoidance, if it was a dot, stay close to a doc, if its pure damage then use armor and damage reduction foods.
My DOT's were never over 300 pr tick, my weapons never close to exceptional, even though they were top of the line. The problem with SWG is that people are more prone to whine about things rather than counter them, and do the extra work, sure you can pvp in crap armor with a grind weapon but dont whine when they guy with 30 mill in equipment beats the crap out of you.
Pday wrote:
Alristico wrote:
Pday wrote:
no, with 90% composite, 40% psg + exo protein wafers, dodge food and a nice assortment of DOT weapons they were pretty much a joke to kill.
Alristico wrote:
Pday wrote:
90% energy composite + 40% PSG + exo protein wafers and laugh at those weapons.
Alristico wrote:
Buzziewaaba wrote:
Alristico wrote:
exceptional weapons were stupid unless you actually had one. I don't know why you can't see that. You may have enjoyed being "separate" from the rest but try and justify it.
Message Edited by Alristico on 09-29-200510:43 AM
So life is a fair sack of potatoes? We all just need to get along? This is crap I'm sorry, by saying this all CA and AA drops should have some sort of LS attribute on them. With that then everyone should have their own PLC and BL the first time they go to the DWB. Things in the game need to stay rare, why else would you play? Point being that I loved exceptional and legendary weapons yet I never had one. I love mando armor and jetpacks now do I own one? I loved the NS bicep and until recently had never purchased one. I think these weapons where great for the game, give you a goal to shoot for.
There are two types of people those who set goals and work to accomplish something and those that want everything handed to them. Keep smoking the pot Hippie.
Message Edited by Buzziewaaba on 09-29-200507:43 PM
Well good for you. Sounds like you've heard of these weapons but you've never experienced them. Just imagine having fun with a bunch of your friends pvping, you guys are doing really good untill one guy, just one guy, uses strafe shot and one-hit kills you all.
If you have experienced them then the only other reason why you would act like this is that you though you might eventually loot one so that you could make the game unfair for everyone else.
btw I don't know why you insulted me for sticking up for most of the players in this game who would like to see more variety in weapons but don't want players looting stuff thats 10 times better than the perfect crafted enhanced counterparts.
the funniest part was when you alluded to me wanting everythinghanded to me without givingany examplesor evidence of even just one thing that I wantedhanded to me lol.
that is obviously untrue. Plz be more specific. What you just said proves nothing. Plus those who had these crazy weapons had money pouring out their eyeballs so its not like they didn't have access to this stuff too. And if you're laughing at his exceptional weapon then I guess he wouldn't even notice that you were shooting him with your regular crafted twinkieweapon.
your dmg scaling is obviously exaggurated.
and with 90% composite, 40% psg + exo protein wafers, dodge food and a nice assortment of (exceptional) DOT weapons what were you?
i didnt own a single exceptional, im just one of those players that try to find counters to most things, and the counter to an exceptional weapon was 2 things : damage reduction and damage avoidance, if it was a dot, stay close to a doc, if its pure damage then use armor and damage reduction foods.
My DOT's were never over 300 pr tick, my weapons never close to exceptional, even though they were top of the line. The problem with SWG is that people are more prone to whine about things rather than counter them, and do the extra work, sure you can pvp in crap armor with a grind weapon but dont whine when they guy with 30 mill in equipment beats the crap out of you.
you didn't answer my question.
But obviously if the guy with the exceptional weapon was a "joke" then you must have been a fly on the wall if he had the same equipment.
with every situation you come up with to defend against someone using an exceptional weapon you don't mention that the guy with the exceptional weapon can easily do the same thing. The only difference between you and the guy with the exceptional weapon is that he can hit you twice as hard or even 5 times harder or even more. There is nothing you can do about that.
btw I'd love to hear your personal experience with trying to kill someone who uses the same equipement you are but hits you multiples harder than you're hitting him.
and again, just like the other guy, you aren't mentioning pve, which is all about dmg.
Alristico wrote:
Pday wrote:
Alristico wrote:
Pday wrote:
no, with 90% composite, 40% psg + exo protein wafers, dodge food and a nice assortment of DOT weapons they were pretty much a joke to kill.
Alristico wrote:
Pday wrote:
90% energy composite + 40% PSG + exo protein wafers and laugh at those weapons.
Alristico wrote:
Buzziewaaba wrote:
Alristico wrote:
exceptional weapons were stupid unless you actually had one. I don't know why you can't see that. You may have enjoyed being "separate" from the rest but try and justify it.
Message Edited by Alristico on 09-29-200510:43 AM
So life is a fair sack of potatoes? We all just need to get along? This is crap I'm sorry, by saying this all CA and AA drops should have some sort of LS attribute on them. With that then everyone should have their own PLC and BL the first time they go to the DWB. Things in the game need to stay rare, why else would you play? Point being that I loved exceptional and legendary weapons yet I never had one. I love mando armor and jetpacks now do I own one? I loved the NS bicep and until recently had never purchased one. I think these weapons where great for the game, give you a goal to shoot for.
There are two types of people those who set goals and work to accomplish something and those that want everything handed to them. Keep smoking the pot Hippie.
Message Edited by Buzziewaaba on 09-29-200507:43 PM
Well good for you. Sounds like you've heard of these weapons but you've never experienced them. Just imagine having fun with a bunch of your friends pvping, you guys are doing really good untill one guy, just one guy, uses strafe shot and one-hit kills you all.
If you have experienced them then the only other reason why you would act like this is that you though you might eventually loot one so that you could make the game unfair for everyone else.
btw I don't know why you insulted me for sticking up for most of the players in this game who would like to see more variety in weapons but don't want players looting stuff thats 10 times better than the perfect crafted enhanced counterparts.
the funniest part was when you alluded to me wanting everythinghanded to me without givingany examplesor evidence of even just one thing that I wantedhanded to me lol.
that is obviously untrue. Plz be more specific. What you just said proves nothing. Plus those who had these crazy weapons had money pouring out their eyeballs so its not like they didn't have access to this stuff too. And if you're laughing at his exceptional weapon then I guess he wouldn't even notice that you were shooting him with your regular crafted twinkieweapon.
your dmg scaling is obviously exaggurated.
and with 90% composite, 40% psg + exo protein wafers, dodge food and a nice assortment of (exceptional) DOT weapons what were you?
i didnt own a single exceptional, im just one of those players that try to find counters to most things, and the counter to an exceptional weapon was 2 things : damage reduction and damage avoidance, if it was a dot, stay close to a doc, if its pure damage then use armor and damage reduction foods.
My DOT's were never over 300 pr tick, my weapons never close to exceptional, even though they were top of the line. The problem with SWG is that people are more prone to whine about things rather than counter them, and do the extra work, sure you can pvp in crap armor with a grind weapon but dont whine when they guy with 30 mill in equipment beats the crap out of you.
you didn't answer my question.
But obviously if the guy with the exceptional weapon was a "joke" then you must have been a fly on the wall if he had the same equipment.
with every situation you come up with to defend against someone using an exceptional weapon you don't mention that the guy with the exceptional weapon can easily do the same thing. The only difference between you and the guy with the exceptional weapon is that he can hit you twice as hard or even 5 times harder or even more. There is nothing you can do about that.
btw I'd love to hear your personal experience with trying to kill someone who uses the same equipement you are but hits you multiples harder than you're hitting him.
and again, just like the other guy, you aren't mentioning pve, which is all about dmg.
that was what the DOTs were for, 300 mind poison, 297 mind fire, 275 mind desease, warcry him for the first tick of fire and poison and hes down 1500 mind, slap intimidate on him to decrease his damage down to close to mine.
Rifleman templates if we are talking rifles didnt in general have intimidate, and hitting a dodge capped fencer was extremely hard, but i see you play on bloodfin and you guys arnt all that good at pvp.
Pday wrote:
that was what the DOTs were for, 300 mind poison, 297 mind fire, 275 mind desease, warcry him for the first tick of fire and poison and hes down 1500 mind, slap intimidate on him to decrease his damage down to close to mine.
Rifleman templates if we are talking rifles didnt in general have intimidate, and hitting a dodge capped fencer was extremely hard, but i see you play on bloodfin and you guys arnt all that good at pvp.
its called 85% saberblock, and poison resist buffs.
Alristico wrote:
Pday wrote:
that was what the DOTs were for, 300 mind poison, 297 mind fire, 275 mind desease, warcry him for the first tick of fire and poison and hes down 1500 mind, slap intimidate on him to decrease his damage down to close to mine.
Rifleman templates if we are talking rifles didnt in general have intimidate, and hitting a dodge capped fencer was extremely hard, but i see you play on bloodfin and you guys arnt all that good at pvp.
whos talking about riflemen? We are talking about exceptional weapons and you go and exclude all weapons exceptrifleman weps just so that your little senario might make a little sense. Guess what? There are exceptional melee weapons too, and besides you still couldn't kill a rifleman who had this
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=146968
Alristico wrote:
Pday wrote:
Alristico wrote:
Pday wrote:
its called 85% saberblock, and poison resist buffs.
Alristico wrote:
Pday wrote:
that was what the DOTs were for, 300 mind poison, 297 mind fire, 275 mind desease, warcry him for the first tick of fire and poison and hes down 1500 mind, slap intimidate on him to decrease his damage down to close to mine.
Rifleman templates if we are talking rifles didnt in general have intimidate, and hitting a dodge capped fencer was extremely hard, but i see you play on bloodfin and you guys arnt all that good at pvp.
whos talking about riflemen? We are talking about exceptional weapons and you go and exclude all weapons exceptrifleman weps just so that your little senario might make a little sense. Guess what? There are exceptional melee weapons too, and besides you still couldn't kill a rifleman who had this
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=146968
thats not enough lol
and 3's a charm. Now its evident you don't want to answer my question cause it wouldn't be in your favor.
jesus christ dude, flameout 246% mitigation bonus for 5 attacks, + 221 power resist buffs, and pikatta pie, + 85% saberblock , anyone who knows how to pvp would whipe that rifleman out in about 6 seconds, you dont run away from a rifleman like that you run right at them, with flameout active, the odds of getting 5 shots passed the saberblock and 50% change to dodge pikatta, then get the DOT passed the resist buffs is pretty much 0. a lightsaber to a ranged player would whipe them out in 4 hits if it was a decent one.
We had people like that on Scylla, among others a 3k something T21 and guess what the ones who tried to run got slain the ones who popped teh flameout and went right at them killed them.
Exceptional melee weapons were harder, but a CM usually got the stackers with the exceptionals pretty easily.
can you repeat the question im not answering btw? i cant see a single one in there i havent answered. and like i said you are on bloodfin i would understand why you dont know pvp.
so what you're saying is that a rifleman with a T21 that had a dmg of 2million couldn't beat that jedi? /shrug, did you not take into account a full templated rifleman, with maybe a second master in a tk or swordsman?warcry/int ring a bell?
im saying that when i was on flameout you could have a 600 billion max rifle and for those 5 shots i would not take damage, flameout pre cu was like synthsteak on steroids, it lasted a short time, had a pretty heavy filling but for the 5 - 7 attacks it lasted you did not take damage. a second master in TK or swords wouldnt give him enough state defence for fighting melee or jedi, a second master being fencer with 0-0-4-0 pistols would be the best, still when he switches to his stun baton he's not hitting with the exceptional. Jedi were never affected that badly by melee mitigation, thoughness killed us, and to get thoughness you had to have the melee weapon equipped, and if were talking a guy with both and exceptional melee and an exceptional ranged weapon well youre pretty much hosed.
for everyone template that you come up with that theoretically in your opinion might have a chance against a very specific templated guy with a specific exceptional weapon there are 50 other templates that don't have a chance.
Thats what i loved about pre cu, all templates had counters and weaknesses, now they dont thats whats ruining pvp.
why are you getting frustrated? we are just having a discussion. No need to start making immature generalized serverwide pvp opinionated comments. I'm not gunna get angrycause you called bloodfin a poopoo head ok?
heres the question that you're avoiding.
Alristico wrote:
Pday wrote:
no, with 90% composite, 40% psg + exo protein wafers, dodge food and a nice assortment of DOT weapons they were pretty much a joke to kill.
and with 90% composite, 40% psg + exo protein wafers, dodge food and a nice assortment of (exceptional) DOT weapons what were you?
btw you still haven't mentioned anythingabout pve lol. This is the second time i've bought this to your attention.
PvE the exceptionals were extremely unbalancing, we had a guy camp nyax with an exceptional t21 for 3 months in a row, but still even there the execeptionals were somewhat limited due to some mobs having 100% resists vs said damage type.
What i was? m.pike/m.rifleman/0-0-4-0 pistols with some medic, in 90% armor with a PSG and what on my server was considered averidge dot weapons, like i said earlier ive never owned or used and exceptional.
Pday wrote:
Alristico wrote:
Pday wrote:
Alristico wrote:
Pday wrote:
its called 85% saberblock, and poison resist buffs.
Alristico wrote:
Pday wrote:
that was what the DOTs were for, 300 mind poison, 297 mind fire, 275 mind desease, warcry him for the first tick of fire and poison and hes down 1500 mind, slap intimidate on him to decrease his damage down to close to mine.
Rifleman templates if we are talking rifles didnt in general have intimidate, and hitting a dodge capped fencer was extremely hard, but i see you play on bloodfin and you guys arnt all that good at pvp.
whos talking about riflemen? We are talking about exceptional weapons and you go and exclude all weapons exceptrifleman weps just so that your little senario might make a little sense. Guess what? There are exceptional melee weapons too, and besides you still couldn't kill a rifleman who had this
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=146968
thats not enough lol
and 3's a charm. Now its evident you don't want to answer my question cause it wouldn't be in your favor.
jesus christ dude, flameout 246% mitigation bonus for 5 attacks, + 221 power resist buffs, and pikatta pie, + 85% saberblock , anyone who knows how to pvp would whipe that rifleman out in about 6 seconds, you dont run away from a rifleman like that you run right at them, with flameout active, the odds of getting 5 shots passed the saberblock and 50% change to dodge pikatta, then get the DOT passed the resist buffs is pretty much 0. a lightsaber to a ranged player would whipe them out in 4 hits if it was a decent one.
We had people like that on Scylla, among others a 3k something T21 and guess what the ones who tried to run got slain the ones who popped teh flameout and went right at them killed them.
Exceptional melee weapons were harder, but a CM usually got the stackers with the exceptionals pretty easily.
can you repeat the question im not answering btw? i cant see a single one in there i havent answered. and like i said you are on bloodfin i would understand why you dont know pvp.
so what you're saying is that a rifleman with a T21 that had a dmg of 2million couldn't beat that jedi? /shrug, did you not take into account a full templated rifleman, with maybe a second master in a tk or swordsman?warcry/int ring a bell?
im saying that when i was on flameout you could have a 600 billion max rifle and for those 5 shots i would not take damage, flameout pre cu was like synthsteak on steroids, it lasted a short time, had a pretty heavy filling but for the 5 - 7 attacks it lasted you did not take damage. a second master in TK or swords wouldnt give him enough state defence for fighting melee or jedi, a second master being fencer with 0-0-4-0 pistols would be the best, still when he switches to his stun baton he's not hitting with the exceptional. Jedi were never affected that badly by melee mitigation, thoughness killed us, and to get thoughness you had to have the melee weapon equipped, and if were talking a guy with both and exceptional melee and an exceptional ranged weapon well youre pretty much hosed.
You woudn't need much defense to outlast flameout. Especially with default attach and warcry.
for everyone template that you come up with that theoretically in your opinion might have a chance against a very specific templated guy with a specific exceptional weapon there are 50 other templates that don't have a chance.
Thats what i loved about pre cu, all templates had counters and weaknesses, now they dont thats whats ruining pvp.
So you agree that there are 50 other templates that don't have a chance for every one you mention?
why are you getting frustrated? we are just having a discussion. No need to start making immature generalized serverwide pvp opinionated comments. I'm not gunna get angrycause you called bloodfin a poopoo head ok?
heres the question that you're avoiding.
Alristico wrote:
Pday wrote:
no, with 90% composite, 40% psg + exo protein wafers, dodge food and a nice assortment of DOT weapons they were pretty much a joke to kill.
and with 90% composite, 40% psg + exo protein wafers, dodge food and a nice assortment of (exceptional) DOT weapons what were you?
btw you still haven't mentioned anythingabout pve lol. This is the second time i've bought this to your attention.
PvE the exceptionals were extremely unbalancing, we had a guy camp nyax with an exceptional t21 for 3 months in a row, but still even there the execeptionals were somewhat limited due to some mobs having 100% resists vs said damage type.
finally you say something logical. And all the 100% resists did was shift you to which mob you didn't have 100% resist to. And therewere manyhigh lvl mobs with good loot that didn't have 100% resists for each type of exceptional weapon.
What i was? m.pike/m.rifleman/0-0-4-0 pistols with some medic, in 90% armor with a PSG and what on my server was considered averidge dot weapons, like i said earlier ive never owned or used and exceptional.
lol so you had no point. Great. Waste my time. Though its not like you can't imagine what would happen, I don't expect you to admit it at this point.
Your arguement seems to be that exceptional weapons were not imbalanced in pvp because there is a very specific jedi template that might possibly have a slight chance against apoor pvping rifleman with an exceptional T21. Whats that have to do with the overall point?
and you did admit that exceptional weapons were imbalancing in pve.
I'm not sure what to say at this point. Sounds like a landslide to me.
Alristico wrote:
Pday wrote:
Alristico wrote:
Pday wrote:
Alristico wrote:
Pday wrote:
its called 85% saberblock, and poison resist buffs.
Alristico wrote:
Pday wrote:
that was what the DOTs were for, 300 mind poison, 297 mind fire, 275 mind desease, warcry him for the first tick of fire and poison and hes down 1500 mind, slap intimidate on him to decrease his damage down to close to mine.
Rifleman templates if we are talking rifles didnt in general have intimidate, and hitting a dodge capped fencer was extremely hard, but i see you play on bloodfin and you guys arnt all that good at pvp.
whos talking about riflemen? We are talking about exceptional weapons and you go and exclude all weapons exceptrifleman weps just so that your little senario might make a little sense. Guess what? There are exceptional melee weapons too, and besides you still couldn't kill a rifleman who had this
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=146968
thats not enough lol
and 3's a charm. Now its evident you don't want to answer my question cause it wouldn't be in your favor.
jesus christ dude, flameout 246% mitigation bonus for 5 attacks, + 221 power resist buffs, and pikatta pie, + 85% saberblock , anyone who knows how to pvp would whipe that rifleman out in about 6 seconds, you dont run away from a rifleman like that you run right at them, with flameout active, the odds of getting 5 shots passed the saberblock and 50% change to dodge pikatta, then get the DOT passed the resist buffs is pretty much 0. a lightsaber to a ranged player would whipe them out in 4 hits if it was a decent one.
We had people like that on Scylla, among others a 3k something T21 and guess what the ones who tried to run got slain the ones who popped teh flameout and went right at them killed them.
Exceptional melee weapons were harder, but a CM usually got the stackers with the exceptionals pretty easily.
can you repeat the question im not answering btw? i cant see a single one in there i havent answered. and like i said you are on bloodfin i would understand why you dont know pvp.
so what you're saying is that a rifleman with a T21 that had a dmg of 2million couldn't beat that jedi? /shrug, did you not take into account a full templated rifleman, with maybe a second master in a tk or swordsman?warcry/int ring a bell?
im saying that when i was on flameout you could have a 600 billion max rifle and for those 5 shots i would not take damage, flameout pre cu was like synthsteak on steroids, it lasted a short time, had a pretty heavy filling but for the 5 - 7 attacks it lasted you did not take damage. a second master in TK or swords wouldnt give him enough state defence for fighting melee or jedi, a second master being fencer with 0-0-4-0 pistols would be the best, still when he switches to his stun baton he's not hitting with the exceptional. Jedi were never affected that badly by melee mitigation, thoughness killed us, and to get thoughness you had to have the melee weapon equipped, and if were talking a guy with both and exceptional melee and an exceptional ranged weapon well youre pretty much hosed.
You woudn't need much defense to outlast flameout. Especially with default attach and warcry.
for everyone template that you come up with that theoretically in your opinion might have a chance against a very specific templated guy with a specific exceptional weapon there are 50 other templates that don't have a chance.
Thats what i loved about pre cu, all templates had counters and weaknesses, now they dont thats whats ruining pvp.
So you agree that there are 50 other templates that don't have a chance for every one you mention?
why are you getting frustrated? we are just having a discussion. No need to start making immature generalized serverwide pvp opinionated comments. I'm not gunna get angrycause you called bloodfin a poopoo head ok?
heres the question that you're avoiding.
Alristico wrote:
Pday wrote:
no, with 90% composite, 40% psg + exo protein wafers, dodge food and a nice assortment of DOT weapons they were pretty much a joke to kill.
and with 90% composite, 40% psg + exo protein wafers, dodge food and a nice assortment of (exceptional) DOT weapons what were you?
btw you still haven't mentioned anythingabout pve lol. This is the second time i've bought this to your attention.
PvE the exceptionals were extremely unbalancing, we had a guy camp nyax with an exceptional t21 for 3 months in a row, but still even there the execeptionals were somewhat limited due to some mobs having 100% resists vs said damage type.
finally you say something logical. And all the 100% resists did was shift you to which mob you didn't have 100% resist to. And therewere manyhigh lvl mobs with good loot that didn't have 100% resists for each type of exceptional weapon.
What i was? m.pike/m.rifleman/0-0-4-0 pistols with some medic, in 90% armor with a PSG and what on my server was considered averidge dot weapons, like i said earlier ive never owned or used and exceptional.
lol so you had no point. Great. Waste my time. Though its not like you can't imagine what would happen, I don't expect you to admit it at this point.
Your arguement seems to be that exceptional weapons were not imbalanced in pvp because there is a very specific jedi template that might possibly have a slight chance against apoor pvping rifleman with an exceptional T21. Whats that have to do with the overall point?
and you did admit that exceptional weapons were imbalancing in pve.
I'm not sure what to say at this point. Sounds like a landslide to me.
my point was simply that there were counters to the different types of exceptional weapons, sure there were few, but they were there. The main reason why exceptionals had the impact they did was the adk's if those wernt in game people wouldnt use the exceptionals as day to day weapons.
That 6k hit, -90% armor would be about 800 - 1000 pvp damage, then add a PSG with about 30% resistance, 27% reduction from exo protein wafers, and they dont hit that hard.
Message Edited by Pday on 09-30-2005 01:42 PM
seriously you guys have to stop wasting my time. Thanks for adding nothing to what was being argued. And I fixed your post.
Pday wrote:
my point was simply that therewere(may have beena)countersto (one type)the different typesof exceptional weapons, sure there were few, but they were there. The main reason why exceptionals had the impact they did was the adk's if those wernt in game people wouldnt use the exceptionals as day to day weapons.
aww come on im at work and im bored, why cant i waste your time?
Alristico wrote:
seriously you guys have to stop wasting my time. Thanks for adding nothing to what was being argued. And I fixed your post.
Pday wrote:
my point was simply that therewere(may have beena)countersto (one type)the different typesof exceptional weapons, sure there were few, but they were there. The main reason why exceptionals had the impact they did was the adk's if those wernt in game people wouldnt use the exceptionals as day to day weapons.
Pday wrote:
aww come on im at work and im bored, why cant i waste your time?
Alristico wrote:
seriously you guys have to stop wasting my time. Thanks for adding nothing to what was being argued. And I fixed your post.
Pday wrote:
my point was simply that therewere(may have beena)countersto (one type)the different typesof exceptional weapons, sure there were few, but they were there. The main reason why exceptionals had the impact they did was the adk's if those wernt in game people wouldnt use the exceptionals as day to day weapons.
Pday wrote:
its called 85% saberblock, and poison resist buffs.
Alristico wrote:
Pday wrote:
that was what the DOTs were for, 300 mind poison, 297 mind fire, 275 mind desease, warcry him for the first tick of fire and poison and hes down 1500 mind, slap intimidate on him to decrease his damage down to close to mine.
Rifleman templates if we are talking rifles didnt in general have intimidate, and hitting a dodge capped fencer was extremely hard, but i see you play on bloodfin and you guys arnt all that good at pvp.
whos talking about riflemen? We are talking about exceptional weapons and you go and exclude all weapons exceptrifleman weps just so that your little senario might make a little sense. Guess what? There are exceptional melee weapons too, and besides you still couldn't kill a rifleman who had this
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=146968
thats not enough lol
and 3's a charm. Now its evident you don't want to answer my question cause it wouldn't be in your favor.