Items And Loot Archive

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Anakroid wrote:

Heres how caps shouldve worked, IMHO.

Weapon has no cap, BUT.... the enhancers are capped.

Say, for example, krayt tissue caps are 250 damage, -0.79 speed. Make it so that the higher the dmg, the rarer the drop. Crap tissue drops commonly, capped tissue is extremely rare. It wouldn't be so much different than the current system, but would make capped weapons less common, thus more desireable, and a real trophy.

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Alristico wrote:

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Darkknight109 wrote:

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Alristico wrote:

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Darkknight109 wrote:

EDIT: And I know full well what you're objecting to. It's the same thing I'm defending. I really could care less if they kept or dropped the Exceptional or Legendary tags, cool though they were. It was the idea that was the great part to it. Something to actually strive for after you'd finished your template.

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if what I'm objecting to is the same thing you're defending than we'd be on the same side here buddy. We arn't. You liked the fact that someone could rule the game with insane weapons and I don't. That is the argument.

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Uh... no it wouldn't be. Objection means to stand against. Defend means to stand for.

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It also means a focus of attention, or the purpose, aim, or goal of a specific action or effort.

be more careful how you word things. Now why aren't you replying to what I said, or are you just trying to change the subject?

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That would be object (noun), not objection (verb). The -ing in objecting indicates a verb, thus ruling out your definition.

And as for why I'm not replying to what you said, it's because I never had problems with campers. Maybe they were bad on your server, but the few I encountered on Valcyn usually wouldn't interfere if you'd already started chunking away at an Elder or Krayt. In PvP... well, PvP was never really my forte. In terms of PvP, as I said before it made the game feel more epic. Remember the opening shots of Lord of the Rings? When the Last Alliance is fighting against the Orc Hoardes and suddenly Sauron appears and all the humans/elves just stop dead and stare in mute horror? That was kinda what it felt like. And damn if it didn't feel good bringing 'em down. Certainly more challenge than most of the high-end PvE in those days.

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Darkknight109 wrote:

That would be object (noun), not objection (verb). The -ing in objecting indicates a verb, thus ruling out your definition, but I can understand how you misinterpreted it.

np, thanks.

And as for why I'm not replying to what you said, it's because I never had problems with campers. Maybe they were bad on your server, but the few I encountered on Valcyn usually wouldn't interfere if you'd already started chunking away at an Elder or Krayt.

now you are confusing campers with kill-stealers. Campers are players who hang out at places like the ackley or nyax. Kill-stealers would take loot rights away from you after you found a lone wild spawn and started shooting it. And by saying "the few I encountered" this may mean you don't have much experience at places where campers hang out or going on ns loot/krayt loot runs or you've been lucky, or your server is not very populated. But bottom line is that you don't know how devestating a player with an exceptional weapon can be towards your experiences in these areas.

If you want to talk about your experiences in pve then refer to the times when you've encountered someone with an exceptional weapon. That is what this discussion is about. Don't side step the issue.

and just so you know, the fact that you may or may not have had problems with campers is no reason why you wouldn't reply lol. Infact its a reason to reply.

In PvP... well, PvP was never really my forte. In terms of PvP, as I said before it made the game feel more epic. Remember the opening shots of Lord of the Rings? When the Last Alliance is fighting against the Orc Hoardes and suddenly Sauron appears and all the humans/elves just stop dead and stare in mute horror? That was kinda what it felt like. And damn if it didn't feel good bringing 'em down. Certainly more challenge than most of the high-end PvE in those days.

Again it seems you don't have the experience to properly argue your side. And if staring in mute horror is what it felt like than why are you arguing that it was fun. Maybe you only had one experience where your group fought someone with an exceptional weapon and that might have been an initially exciting experience. Cause I don't think anyone would feel good about it after a few more times when they realize there is no contest unless you fight this guy 10 on 1.

Most of what you posted is an opinion. I cannot relate to having my kills stolen or being knocked flat on my ass in a regular basis in PvP, because it didn't happen to me very often. Thus I cannot dispute it, nor can I counter it with anything because it didn't happen to me and I can't very well say "No, it didn't happen to you either!"

did it not happen to you because you haven't tried killing someone with an exceptional weapon? Or have you tried many times and actually killed them lol. My guess is that you just dont' have the experience.

and why are you talking about what I say as if it were opinion? A great T21 had like 600-700 dmg. The exceptional weapons im talking about had 700 - 3k dmg un puped. You do the math. Its very objective.

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Message Edited by Alristico on 09-30-2005 12:18 AM

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auron508 wrote:
you know, if it was player made, the scythe cant be exceptional

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I don't miss the exceptional weapons at all.

What I DO miss are weapons that are situational in nature. The ones you'd use to address specific vulnerabilities in mobs. Those specific vulnerablitities no longer exist. They were nerfed away in the CU, dumbing down the game for the poor, simpleminded 12 year old glowstick wielders.

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Alristico wrote:

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Buzziewaaba wrote:

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Alristico wrote:

exceptional weapons were stupid unless you actually had one. I don't know why you can't see that. You may have enjoyed being "separate" from the rest but try and justify it.

Message Edited by Alristico on 09-29-200510:43 AM

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So life is a fair sack of potatoes? We all just need to get along? This is crap I'm sorry, by saying this all CA and AA drops should have some sort of LS attribute on them. With that then everyone should have their own PLC and BL the first time they go to the DWB. Things in the game need to stay rare, why else would you play? Point being that I loved exceptional and legendary weapons yet I never had one. I love mando armor and jetpacks now do I own one? I loved the NS bicep and until recently had never purchased one. I think these weapons where great for the game, give you a goal to shoot for.

There are two types of people those who set goals and work to accomplish something and those that want everything handed to them. Keep smoking the pot Hippie.

Message Edited by Buzziewaaba on 09-29-2005 07:43 PM

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Well good for you. Sounds like you've heard of these weapons but you've never experienced them. Just imagine having fun with a bunch of your friends pvping, you guys are doing really good untill one guy, just one guy, uses strafe shot and one-hit kills you all.

If you have experienced them then the only other reason why you would act like this is that you though you might eventually loot one so that you could make the game unfair for everyone else.

btw I don't know why you insulted me for sticking up for most of the players in this game who would like to see more variety in weapons but don't want players looting stuff thats 10 times better than the perfect crafted enhanced counterparts.

the funniest part was when you alluded to me wanting everythinghanded to me without givingany examplesor evidence of even just one thing that I wantedhanded to me lol.

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Zangar-X wrote:
After reading more of the posts... i think its official... Vote Alristico A$$hat of the Year! congrats! /cheer

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and yet you agree with me.

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Zangar-X wrote:

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Imaridril wrote:
Exceptional and Legendary weapons were too unbalanced, especially because the algorithms that the game used for generating random loot weapons were based on the stat ranges those weapons had had during beta. The result being that things like T-21s, which were nerfed shortly after launch, were coming out with rediculous stats when looted as an Exceptional or Legendary weapon. By the same token, weapons that were way underpowered at launch were still coming out as garbage, even when looted as an Exceptional or Legendary version, evenafter the crafted version had hadtheir stat ranges improved. That being said, the devs should at least turn yellow-named drops back on, especially for components. Those allowed players to get an item that was noticably better than aregular crafted version, but didn't give a single player a massively unbalanced amount of power.

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I didnt know that it worked that way with the old loot, but it explains a lot.... good going SOE

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Pday wrote:

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Alristico wrote:

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Buzziewaaba wrote:

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Alristico wrote:

exceptional weapons were stupid unless you actually had one. I don't know why you can't see that. You may have enjoyed being "separate" from the rest but try and justify it.

Message Edited by Alristico on 09-29-200510:43 AM

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So life is a fair sack of potatoes? We all just need to get along? This is crap I'm sorry, by saying this all CA and AA drops should have some sort of LS attribute on them. With that then everyone should have their own PLC and BL the first time they go to the DWB. Things in the game need to stay rare, why else would you play? Point being that I loved exceptional and legendary weapons yet I never had one. I love mando armor and jetpacks now do I own one? I loved the NS bicep and until recently had never purchased one. I think these weapons where great for the game, give you a goal to shoot for.

There are two types of people those who set goals and work to accomplish something and those that want everything handed to them. Keep smoking the pot Hippie.

Message Edited by Buzziewaaba on 09-29-200507:43 PM

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Well good for you. Sounds like you've heard of these weapons but you've never experienced them. Just imagine having fun with a bunch of your friends pvping, you guys are doing really good untill one guy, just one guy, uses strafe shot and one-hit kills you all.

If you have experienced them then the only other reason why you would act like this is that you though you might eventually loot one so that you could make the game unfair for everyone else.

btw I don't know why you insulted me for sticking up for most of the players in this game who would like to see more variety in weapons but don't want players looting stuff thats 10 times better than the perfect crafted enhanced counterparts.

the funniest part was when you alluded to me wanting everythinghanded to me without givingany examplesor evidence of even just one thing that I wantedhanded to me lol.

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90% energy composite + 40% PSG + exo protein wafers and laugh at those weapons.

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Alristico wrote:

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Pday wrote:

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Alristico wrote:

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Buzziewaaba wrote:

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Alristico wrote:

exceptional weapons were stupid unless you actually had one. I don't know why you can't see that. You may have enjoyed being "separate" from the rest but try and justify it.

Message Edited by Alristico on 09-29-200510:43 AM

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So life is a fair sack of potatoes? We all just need to get along? This is crap I'm sorry, by saying this all CA and AA drops should have some sort of LS attribute on them. With that then everyone should have their own PLC and BL the first time they go to the DWB. Things in the game need to stay rare, why else would you play? Point being that I loved exceptional and legendary weapons yet I never had one. I love mando armor and jetpacks now do I own one? I loved the NS bicep and until recently had never purchased one. I think these weapons where great for the game, give you a goal to shoot for.

There are two types of people those who set goals and work to accomplish something and those that want everything handed to them. Keep smoking the pot Hippie.

Message Edited by Buzziewaaba on 09-29-200507:43 PM

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Well good for you. Sounds like you've heard of these weapons but you've never experienced them. Just imagine having fun with a bunch of your friends pvping, you guys are doing really good untill one guy, just one guy, uses strafe shot and one-hit kills you all.

If you have experienced them then the only other reason why you would act like this is that you though you might eventually loot one so that you could make the game unfair for everyone else.

btw I don't know why you insulted me for sticking up for most of the players in this game who would like to see more variety in weapons but don't want players looting stuff thats 10 times better than the perfect crafted enhanced counterparts.

the funniest part was when you alluded to me wanting everythinghanded to me without givingany examplesor evidence of even just one thing that I wantedhanded to me lol.

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90% energy composite + 40% PSG + exo protein wafers and laugh at those weapons.

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that is obviously untrue. Plz be more specific. What you just said proves nothing. Plus those who had these crazy weapons had money pouring out their eyeballs so its not like they didn't have access to this stuff too. And if you're laughing at his exceptional weapon then I guess he wouldn't even notice that you were shooting him with your regular crafted twinkieweapon.

your dmg scaling is obviously exaggurated.

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