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Thread: New BH loot discussion.

Nezodon
Sat Aug 06, 2005 5:28 am
#40






BadgerSmaker wrote:






Nezodon wrote:



Now instead of complaining about the new BH npc's and their loot prehaps you guys should look at your respective professions and look at how you can have unique content and missions which yield the same rewards without yelling nerf on a profession which has just been reinvigorated with a new and more exciting life.

Lets stop asking for nerf's on professions instead lets see how we can make the most of our current profession, my main profession is smuggler and im still waiting to smuggle im sure other professions want the ability to have unique content with unique rewards prehaps that should be the focus.





Nobody is asking for nerfs, for non BH it is quite disheartening that they dont have access to this loot that almost replaces Krayt, Gorax, NS and various other hunting.


I tend to hunt all sorts of mobs, some take 20 - 30 minutes to find, but it all seems a bit pointless when guildchat is full of MBH taking high end loot from mobs they have a waypoint for and are relatively easy.







And i agree with that but what needs to happen is to look at what can be added to the neglected professions to bring them in line with what the BH'ers are getting rather than lowering what the BH'ers have because as soon as you start to reduce things from professions you stop the same gifts being implemented intotheir own professions in the long term.


Smuggler should get this type of loot from smuggling, if i ever get to smuggle, and creature handlers can learn new abilities by taming pets now which is a cool new feature.


I think all professions should have a unique type of mission which is as time consuming as tracking down a mark but gives the same rewards for time spent which is relative to the profession doing the mission, of course these missions would be hard to implement because the question arrises for example "what is a squad leader mission?" and i cant answer that but i have no doubt that if squad leaders make this part of their focus they will have enough ideas to work on something which is workable.





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nightshiftooi
Sat Aug 06, 2005 5:30 am
#41


The new npc/bh loots are good.


Here is my problem.


DJK/DJM....missions repeatable from imperial prison.

Hit with the nerf bat publish 19 cl levels lowered thus lowering the quality of the loot also an intentional addition of making them drop useless items,particularly low level weapons whilst their total health was drastically increased.

Problem with this that lead to the nerf....imperial only and people unable or unwilling to find a way to defeat them...and yes im aware that a non defender melee was faced with an impossible task.They still are now with the djm being level 113 and hitting for excess of 2k on occasssions.A ranged prof with the snare/root/kd ability and low reuse parwan cake could solo them easily with the right tactics.

Perhaps another reason this was nerfed/adjusted was the fact people were farming the mission 24/7.

People will farm a good source of loot regardless of what itis.

If u need examples of this simply go to Kaadara and check the amount of bh now taking npc missions.Ask all your jedi friends if they have seen a bh since this bh/loot publish came into effect.


Now before i go on i will make it clear that i am a jedi finished template and my alt is a mbh mrifle with good healing skills.

Not once has any of the elite "Boss" marks given me too much trouble to take down and from running an insane amount of missions at this point i think i can say fairly certain that the loot is entirely random regardless of total health of the mark.


My problem is that this loot is specifically for mbh....this is totally wrong...yes make the marks drop loot but with nothing else in the game dropping the quantity or quality these npc missions are dropping u will see an explosion in the bh community(not that the respec period already didnt cause that).


Answer:::It would take time and work by the developers but sit down and balance the loot based on cl so that all professions have a chance to aquire quality loot.

From experience the loot is not based on cl but what kind of mob u kill plus the cl of it.

EG...high level npcs (factional missions) drop mostly useless junk.


Allowing one particular profession or faction (djks imp prison) access to high quality loot is simply wrong and should be rethought before implementation.


Then again this could simply be an attempt to lower the amount of player hate b/w jedi and bh as the bh's will make alot more money running the npc missions than they would hunting jedi .....most of which missions they will pick will be full templated and prove a difficult and costly battle.


AJUST THE LOOT TABLES PROPERLY ONCE AND FOR ALL AND THE COMPLAINING AND TENSION B/W DIFFERENT PLAYER CLASSES WILL END.



regards and best wishes

Nightshiftooi
sohokerv
Sat Aug 06, 2005 8:50 am
#42

bah well it just got alot worse in my opinion, just found out the new marks are dropping an alternative to krayt tissue not only is the standerd drop of it over 150max but it also has a reduction to sac which krayt tissue dosent
was ok with the gorax shard alternatives as not many good weaponsuse it but dam krayt alternatives ffs may as well give bh a flawless pearl with every mission and deleat the loot tables of all the other mobs in game as all other mobs are now worthless in comparison



Bothans are rarer than jedi
that makes me sad =o
sohokerv
Sat Aug 06, 2005 10:56 am
#43



JaxonLuxor wrote:

I love people who cry b/c one profession actually gets something cool and they don't. So let's run down the list:

DWB

Krayts

Gorax

Auks

NS

All of those things people can still loot off of. Bounty Hunter marks are no joy to run. It's not like going to the Krayt Graveyard and walking around. I'm sure that based off of the constant complaining that the BH loot will be nerfed - thanks for that - but at least let us have our one week or so of being on the top since we have been on the bottom for so long.





none of us are calling nerf were just asking for loot that is the quality of bh loot to drop from mobs that everyone has access to
as for your list
dwb= imposibal for the solo player and loot there severly sux at best non wareable bh armour or a piece of a jetpack youll probably never manage to make
bh mission can get wareable colourable bh armour
krayts= tissues all other krayt loot is currently worthless
bh mision can give you powercell which does the same as krayt tissue lowest stats ive seen so far are 150 max and they have sac reduction which krayt tissue dosent
gorax= gorax bone shards
bh mision can drop casing does the same as gorax shards but once again generaly beter stats
aa'kuans= skill tapes
bh mission also recieve skill tapes from what ive heard higher stats
nightsisters= heavy duty leather, below average pikes, occasionaly smugler loot
bh mision plenty of smugler tools including the extreamly rare ilegal core boosters

once again im not asking for a nerf just for the other ingame loot to be brought inline with bh loot look at the list above does it not sound unfare that one profesion has such an advantage over lootable items than any other profesion as well as being able to kill and loot the normal mobs



Bothans are rarer than jedi
that makes me sad =o
JaxonLuxor
Sat Aug 06, 2005 11:24 am
#44

While you may not necessarily be directly calling for a nerf, that is what will happen. From a Dev perspective what is an easier fix? Adjusting all of the loot tables and calibrating them or simply adjusting the BH loot tables. From a very selfish perspective, all the loot that was previously mentioned has been in the game for years, people have been looting Krayts, Nyax (obviously not now), NS, DWB, Auks ect and BH loot has been in the game for 2 days. The BH loot is something that can not be AFKed, itis time consuming (vs. say a Krayt hunt in which youknow where to go and can camp there) with the travel time between the terminals and marks and I believe that the influx of loot will be a good stablizer for the economy.



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Brete
Sat Aug 06, 2005 11:26 am
#45






sohokerv wrote:
bah well it just got alot worse in my opinion, just found out the new marks are dropping an alternative to krayt tissue not only is the standerd drop of it over 150max but it also has a reduction to sac which krayt tissue dosent
was ok with the gorax shard alternatives as not many good weaponsuse it but dam krayt alternatives ffs may as well give bh a flawless pearl with every mission and deleat the loot tables of all the other mobs in game as all other mobs are now worthless in comparison







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BadgerSmaker
Sat Aug 06, 2005 12:44 pm
#46






shafar wrote:

How about instead of nerfing the BHs they fix some stuff for other professions? I'm sure they are just setting the BH up for the ultimate nerf anyway; removing jedi missions all together.




Dont get me wrong, I'm happy that there is some good loot in the game, I never asked for any nerfs, but I did ask for any info on when other loot tables will be fixed.


Seeing as it is possible to do.



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zRhyno
Sat Aug 06, 2005 2:25 pm
#47

There are still many PvE places too loot, but just because BH's get something new, shouldnt give you the right to complain that theres nothing out there.






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Brete
Sat Aug 06, 2005 2:40 pm
#48

Krayt tissues and Gorax shards have been nerfed and the only prof that can loot there replacements is BH , BH is the only prof that can loot usable armor schems and BH's are also looting tons of slicing tools


Im glad loot got added to BH but there are a lot of other profs that need some attention and yet have been overlooked ( again )



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SanZo
Sat Aug 06, 2005 7:21 pm
#49

tbh this game is starting to be more and more reserved for BHs..
its like: i have killed lvl 80+ elite stuff for hours and finally i get a CA/AA with melee acc +5 or something... seconds later a friend log in, takes one BH mission and he has a BH chest armor schem, illegal core booster, a few cool poster and a CA/AA with some stat +9. Then he takes another mission, gets another illegal core booster, BH helmet schem and a CA/AA with some stats +8..
does anyone else see the unfairness in this!?

PS: feel free to flame me for whining



Gazoth Calebrant

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BadgerSmaker
Sat Aug 06, 2005 8:46 pm
#50

Well, the Devs seem quite happy about the loot drops so there won't be any nerf. Apart from bugged scopes all is as intended.


I'mquite happy about it, as a Pistoleer I can now make stupidly powerful pistols once the BH in my guild farm the components and I can slice them with ICB's. Also the SEA's coming in now means we can have 12pt everything and cap loads of stats.


It's just a shame you have to be a BH to get them, and its a shame that Pistoleer is the only profession that benefits from the component loot, unless you want a carbine or rifle that does 1 point of blast damage.




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Brete
Sat Aug 06, 2005 9:14 pm
#51






BadgerSmaker wrote:


It's just a shame you have to be a BH to get them, and its a shame that Pistoleer is the only profession that benefits from the component loot, unless you want a carbine or rifle that does 1 point of blast damage.






Are the loot components supposed to work for carbs and rifles ?





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Nezodon
Sun Aug 07, 2005 12:58 am
#52






JaxonLuxor wrote:
While you may not necessarily be directly calling for a nerf, that is what will happen. From a Dev perspective what is an easier fix? Adjusting all of the loot tables and calibrating them or simply adjusting the BH loot tables. From a very selfish perspective, all the loot that was previously mentioned has been in the game for years, people have been looting Krayts, Nyax (obviously not now), NS, DWB, Auks ect and BH loot has been in the game for 2 days. The BH loot is something that can not be AFKed, itis time consuming (vs. say a Krayt hunt in which youknow where to go and can camp there) with the travel time between the terminals and marks and I believe that the influx of loot will be a good stablizer for the economy.





Exactly regardless how hard something is it is easy enough to camp it or in some cases go AFK and loot it this isnt a challenge it is just about practice.


You cant camp a BH mission and you cant AFK a BH mission you need to move around and once you get there you need to be ready for one hell of a fight in alot of occasions and despite all the rumours of people arnt getting brilliant loot all the time in fact it isn t as common as people would like to tell you b ut their is a good chance but no more so than running aakuan missions from a terminal.






Jorrai Takkori
Elder jedi
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