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Thread: New BH loot discussion.

CrashNemesisII
Fri Aug 05, 2005 5:26 pm
#27

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istali
Fri Aug 05, 2005 5:29 pm
#28


Seems pointless ! Best thing in the game long gone!




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shafar
Fri Aug 05, 2005 11:52 pm
#29



BadgerSmaker wrote:


chindi2k2 wrote:

The one thing i find strange about this is how the new BH loot tables came about. A dev was doing the missions looking for bugs and realised the marks dropped crap loot so beefed it up.

Now this suggests two things to me.. 1. The devs clearly don't read the forums (and in particular this one) as people have been complaining about drop rates and things plain disappearing (premies) for a while now and 2. (and this i find more worrying) it seems that they don't actually play their game to any great degree. Perhaps if they spent some time on post CU Marauders and NS for example they might realise just how poor loot is right now.

Loot has changed a lot. WIth modded clothing no longer dropping , decent weapons or dots no longer dropping some NPC's loot tables have been decimated. The smuggler loot did go some small way to addressing this but it isnt enough.

Having said all that i am happy for the BH that they got some love , but how about spreading that love a bit devs?



It was Blixtev, he added a few things to the loot tables of the marks in his free time because he thought it was lame.
Now they are the best source of loot in the game... I think he went a bit over the top.
I have asked for some feedback on this from the Dev team.





How about instead of nerfing the BHs they fix some stuff for other professions? I'm sure they are just setting the BH up for the ultimate nerf anyway; removing jedi missions all together.






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chindi2k2
Sat Aug 06, 2005 12:05 am
#30

The one thing i find strange about this is how the new BH loot tables came about. A dev was doing the missions looking for bugs and realised the marks dropped crap loot so beefed it up.


Now this suggests two things to me.. 1. The devs clearly don't read the forums (and in particular this one) as people have been complaining about drop rates and things plain disappearing (premies) for a while now and 2. (and this i find more worrying) it seems that they don't actually play their game to any great degree. Perhaps if they spent some time on post CU Marauders and NS for example they might realise just how poor loot is right now.


Loot has changed a lot. WIth modded clothing no longer dropping , decent weapons or dots no longer dropping some NPC's loot tables have been decimated. The smuggler loot did go some small way to addressing this but it isnt enough.


Having said all that i am happy for the BH that they got some love , but how about spreading that love a bit devs?







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BadgerSmaker
Sat Aug 06, 2005 12:19 am
#31






chindi2k2 wrote:

The one thing i find strange about this is how the new BH loot tables came about. A dev was doing the missions looking for bugs and realised the marks dropped crap loot so beefed it up.


Now this suggests two things to me.. 1. The devs clearly don't read the forums (and in particular this one) as people have been complaining about drop rates and things plain disappearing (premies) for a while now and 2. (and this i find more worrying) it seems that they don't actually play their game to any great degree. Perhaps if they spent some time on post CU Marauders and NS for example they might realise just how poor loot is right now.


Loot has changed a lot. WIth modded clothing no longer dropping , decent weapons or dots no longer dropping some NPC's loot tables have been decimated. The smuggler loot did go some small way to addressing this but it isnt enough.


Having said all that i am happy for the BH that they got some love , but how about spreading that love a bit devs?






It was Blixtev, he added a few things to the loot tables of the marks in his free time because he thought it was lame.


Now they are the best source of loot in the game... I think he went a bit over the top.


I have asked for some feedback on this from the Dev team.



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SoloMek
Sat Aug 06, 2005 12:31 am
#32

I'm a 14 month vet and I love PVE, it's the only thing I do.


Being a triple melee combat master leaves me no option as how to earn credits. I kill, loot and sell. Keeps the BARC fueled and Bantha steak soup on the table.


And I will give Kashyyyk a thumbs up for content. I feel for the few that are so uber that they can kill Necrosis AFKor solo the DWB.


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chindi2k2
Sat Aug 06, 2005 12:34 am
#33


Yeah i knew it was Blixtev , i just didn't want it to seem like i was name calling because at the end of the dayit is a positive move , it's just a shame that it is restricted to a particular profession. I'm just confused as to whether the devs think that other boss type NPCs(gold chevron stuff like Elders for example) already have good loot tables because i can assure them that they don't.







Message Edited by chindi2k2 on 08-05-2005 12:35 PM



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Iawo
Sat Aug 06, 2005 4:28 am
#34

Makes me want to puke how BH's are the only ones that have a reliable source for slicing items.


DEVS, Quit babying the BH's and Jedi for a while so you can fix the rest of us, OK? Oh yeah, how are those smuggler missions coming along?





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Hairycarpet
Sat Aug 06, 2005 4:46 am
#35

The missions are good, BH has some NPC content. TBH the mobs are pretty lightweight if you have some healing ability but the round trip per mission is still 20 to 30 mins so I think the reward is fair for the time and effort. I completely agree that other missions for other professions should have a similar fix, dont nerf this, fix the others. I'd really like to see another level of Boss mob though, but ffs please give the poor bloody smugglers some love first
Kaorset
Sat Aug 06, 2005 4:59 am
#36

Trust me, while we BH's certainly are happy about the new loot, it's nothing different from grinding. Also, it's a step in the right direction. At least you can't AFK grind these NPC marks like you can, oh, say Aakuans.



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Nezodon
Sat Aug 06, 2005 5:03 am
#37






FriedSquid wrote:

Completely agreed. Don't complain about BH loots being good - they're actually FAIR considering how far you often have to go for a lvl 82 mark that has a chance of pwning your dumb BH tail. Hanging out in NE Tatt should give you a very good chance of finding canyon krayts, and they should dropgood tissue and pearls.






I like the new system for BH's aswell and this is my reason why.


You go to the BH terminal and grab a mission, then over to the spynet guy who gives you the bio-sig, now move out of the city to launch a droid to find the planet the mark is on.


Your mark is on Rori so travel to Rori and launch another droid to track him whilst going to the last known location of the said mark, postition updates and you head to his exact loaction and find out what your up against.


The mark is a silver one and had 19k HAM so inorder to beat him i will need the right combinations of food and the right equipment for the job before i start to fight him not to mention all the stims ready for the fight.


Now the fight is started and were off 20 minutes later i have a mandolorian intreframe and a +5 structure assembly and + 5 disease resistance ca.


Marks take a long time to track and find, they take a lot of equipment to take down and alot of expensive consumables, the fights can now be quite long considering the damage they deal and the damage they can take not to mention how much the condition in the armour deteriates with the decay rate what it is.


I cant take on the gold marks yet so ive decided to start using bomb droids which is another cost i have to pay for doing these missions and believe me these are a lot more than the 25k i get for completing the mission because without them i cant take alot of the new npc's out.


Of course on occassions the marks are inside house's which mean you have to start from scratch, BH'ing is already a costly and time consuming profession anda successful BH should be rewarded for doing his job and i think the new loot system is perfectly fair.


It can take up to 30-40 mins to hunt and kill a mark and even longer if you are a lower level in that time i could have taking out 4 aakuan lairs which have dropped very good ca's, my best has been a 2 handed ls speed +11, so i think in terms of time related and difficulty related the BH missions are fair.


Now instead of complaining about the new BH npc's and their loot prehaps you guys should look at your respective professions and look at how you can have unique content and missions which yield the same rewards without yelling nerf on a profession which has just been reinvigorated with a new and more exciting life.


Lets stop asking for nerf's on professions instead lets see how we can make the most of our current profession, my main profession is smuggler and im still waiting to smuggle im sure other professions want the ability to have unique content with unique rewards prehaps that should be the focus.



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BadgerSmaker
Sat Aug 06, 2005 5:17 am
#38






Nezodon wrote:



Now instead of complaining about the new BH npc's and their loot prehaps you guys should look at your respective professions and look at how you can have unique content and missions which yield the same rewards without yelling nerf on a profession which has just been reinvigorated with a new and more exciting life.

Lets stop asking for nerf's on professions instead lets see how we can make the most of our current profession, my main profession is smuggler and im still waiting to smuggle im sure other professions want the ability to have unique content with unique rewards prehaps that should be the focus.





Nobody is asking for nerfs, for non BH it is quite disheartening that they dont have access to this loot that almost replaces Krayt, Gorax, NS and various other hunting.


I tend to hunt all sorts of mobs, some take 20 - 30 minutes to find, but it all seems a bit pointless when guildchat is full of MBH taking high end loot from mobs they have a waypoint for and are relatively easy.




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Getoc
Sat Aug 06, 2005 5:19 am
#39

Well at least this loot is uncampable .... nothing for third party tool users like in the borgle cave for long time .... not like the aakuan cave where auto attack loot macros are commen . The way BH loot is now should be ALL loot in swg ...... all loot should be uncampable because lootcampers wreck the gaming fun for others.
And btw BH npc loot has been the worst in the game since start of swg .... now BH got a least an PvE option and this will take a lot out of the grief between BH and jedi because this is most definitly more rewarding then killing a young padi .



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