Items And Loot Archive
Thread: Camping Loot amazingly once again
Heh, reaserch has shown that when you don't have your group camped in the immidate vicinity, the spawn time is about 20-60 minutes, when you DO have your group camped in the immediate vicinity, spawn times increase to 3-4 HOURS.
Traslation: Those who camp loot spots are now out of luck (sorry guys)
Note: I got on this morning, saw a group kill xos, vansk, then sansii, and move on. 20 minutes later, when I had my own small group, we killed xos. then weant to Vansk (had quests for both). While waiting for vansk, we decided to kill all the blackguard NPCs in teh surrounding buildings. Once we had most of them killed, Vansk spawned.We killed her, then waitied some more at the spawn point. Some more ppl came over and joined us, they didn't have the xos quest, so we got them started on it. By that time Xos had respawned. We all went over and killed Xos for the quest. When we got back to the place where Vansk spawed, we waited outside the little gazeebo, at the bottom of the mound. Sure enough, a couple minutes later, Sansii Spawned. Total time to get 2 Xos kills, 1 Vansk Kill, and 1 Sansii kill WITHOUT camping the gazeebo, and AFTER another group killed all 3, was 1.5 hours ([ossibly because we did camp the gazeebo waiting for vansk). There also were not any other groups camping either area while we were there.
The Lesson: Don't camp the sites if you don't want to wait multiple hours for a single desired spawn.
jalexu wrote:
I thought these are no-trade items. If it's so, you won't be among the first to get it, that's all
The robe in question IS droppable in a house AND I believe is tradable. I looted one in a group of players looking to finish the quest. Lottery was turned on and I happened to get lucky. I used my main toon, dropped it in a house, logged in my Jedi and was able to bio link and equip it with him.
That being said, we had to wait about 3+ hours for the mob to spawn which IMHO is waaaaaaaay too long of a timer for something only 1 person can get at a time. I would think there are a number of ways to change this.
1) Reduce timers to something more managable. 10 minutes to an hour.
2) Make the item no trade/ no drop.
3) Give all players in the group the item as part of finishing the quest.
4) Give random WP's for the spawn depending on player or group.
5) Make mob unattackable by players without the quest.
6) Any combination of the above.
All this fuss for an item only Jedi can use. And to think that the YT-2400 is just as bad and EVERY profession can use it (as long as they're master pilots).
majorslappy wrote:
iijin wrote:
*hands out cheese*
Ah. Look. A loot camper.
And to the other poster that suggested asking. Did that. Got the "sucks to be you" response.
sucks to be you!
LOL
The loot camp spots need to be reworked so that they can't be camped.
majorslappy wrote:
The loot camp spots need to be reworked so that they can't be camped.
oxymoron....
You do realize this is a necessary evil for MMO's, there is nothing to be done...
If there is loot to be had...it WILL be camped somehow, way or another...complaining and whinning about it just results in gah crap like "non-tradable items and one time quest rewards".
Back when the Ackley was worth killing...there was a Doc/Swordsman that stayed in the duengon day in day out, logged in just to buff and kill it then logged out waited 2 hours logged back in...point being...it WILL happen, just like the only people that will refine Oil are those dirty Oil Companies...want oil? guess what...you will buy it from them. Want the loot? you will buy it from the loot campers...
BTW: I'm not a loot camper
Message Edited by iijin on 10-27-2005 02:33 PM
iijin wrote:
majorslappy wrote:
The loot camp spots need to be reworked so that they can't be camped.
oxymoron....
You do realize this is a necessary evil for MMO's, there is nothing to be done...
If there is loot to be had...it WILL be camped somehow, way or another...complaining and whinning about it just results in gah crap like "non-tradable items and one time quest rewards".
Back when the Ackley was worth killing...there was a Doc/Swordsman that stayed in the duengon day in day out, logged in just to buff and kill it then logged out waited 2 hours logged back in...point being...it WILL happen, just like the only people that will refine Oil are those dirty Oil Companies...want oil? guess what...you will buy it from them. Want the loot? you will buy it from the loot campers...
BTW: I'm not a loot camper
Message Edited by iijin on 10-27-2005 02:33 PM
Problem is these mobs are needed to complete quests. If people are going to just sit there and not allow players to complete a valid quest I think something is going to happen.
Although I'd like to say they'll get bored, I doubt it. Imagine if you cornered the market on these robes rofl. You'd make millions upon millions. That's why I it's going to be a while before some players finish these quests.
IIjin,
It's actually a pretty simple fix. Kick out anyone in the area after they have completed the kill.
And loot camping only goes on because it's allowed.
WookieOgre wrote:
iijin wrote:
majorslappy wrote:
The loot camp spots need to be reworked so that they can't be camped.
oxymoron....
You do realize this is a necessary evil for MMO's, there is nothing to be done...
If there is loot to be had...it WILL be camped somehow, way or another...complaining and whinning about it just results in gah crap like "non-tradable items and one time quest rewards".
Back when the Ackley was worth killing...there was a Doc/Swordsman that stayed in the duengon day in day out, logged in just to buff and kill it then logged out waited 2 hours logged back in...point being...it WILL happen, just like the only people that will refine Oil are those dirty Oil Companies...want oil? guess what...you will buy it from them. Want the loot? you will buy it from the loot campers...
BTW: I'm not a loot camper
Message Edited by iijin on 10-27-2005 02:33 PM
Problem is these mobs are needed to complete quests. If people are going to just sit there and not allow players to complete a valid quest I think something is going to happen.
Although I'd like to say they'll get bored, I doubt it. Imagine if you cornered the market on these robes rofl. You'd make millions upon millions. That's why I it's going to be a while before some players finish these quests.
TBH, I dont see why anyone would want to complete any quests anyway...most of the loot I have seen is junk.
Sorta like BH now have the market cornered on tapes, and Jedi had the market cornered on the +25 tapes off the DJK and DJM...get a larger stronger group and go steal the spawn from the campers.
Neomonk wrote:
iijin wrote:
I want to keep these things rare and out of the hands of everyone,
As long as you get the item, right? Sounds kinda selfish to me. Everyone should have the same chance to get any item as everyone else.
I guarantee, I will never be caught standing around there trying to loot robes....the robes are freakin ugly anyway, I wouldn't wear one if it deposited 1 million credits in my bank every hour....well maybe I would . ButIf I find something I want, I will get it, if it requires me getting my guild involved so be it.
"Everyone should have the same chance to get any item as everyone else."
I don't agree, I think there should be a VERY limited number of these in the game, Stop being carebears! deal with it! don't come crying to the SOE thats just going to get everyone nerfed.
majorslappy wrote:
Got it now. Iijin, you are just here to argue and offer no real discussion on a solution.
I understand you are just a bone head that can't figure out that there is no damn solution...