Image Designer Archive

Thread: Final info about the mini publish now that TH let the cat out of the bag :)

Sir_Voor
Thu May 06, 2004 12:10 am
#40






Kwee wrote:



Stat Migration - ID's will be the only way for stat migration to happen, and it will be possible only in a tent. Silly me, I'venever thoughtto ask if it will be instant, we should know soon.





? And only 5-6 days to TC it ?


? And still no ID XP fix I assume ? ( No ID XP fix + critical function = 100,000 IDers by May 5th )

Message Edited by Sir_Voor on 05-05-2004 02:12 PM







[`M Sir VOOR N`\

RynaNasao
Thu May 06, 2004 12:12 am
#41

Jeez... all I wanted was blue hair and glitter.


I can see it now..


Why should I pay for something that not only used to be free, but that you don't have to use any resources for?



Kwee
Thu May 06, 2004 12:14 am
#42






Sir_Voor wrote:






Kwee wrote:



Stat Migration - ID's will be the only way for stat migration to happen, and it will be possible only in a tent. Silly me, I'venever thoughtto ask if it will be instant, we should know soon.





? And only 5-6 days to TC it ?


? And still no ID XP fix I assume ? ( No ID XP fix + critical function = 100,000 IDers by May 5th )


Message Edited by Sir_Voor on 05-05-2004 02:12 PM



Yes ID exp will be massively slowed down by the enforced timer. Our dev will be doing only bug fixing this week.





Kwee Glitterwing of Starsider
Ex Image Designer Correspondent ~ Elder Tailor
& Kwee-kwee ~ Master Image Designer
Gamer Girl Columnist ~ swg.warcry.com
Ivory & Topaz of TC ~ Elder Dancers, IDs, Musicians

RynaNasao
Thu May 06, 2004 12:14 am
#43

Kwee.... please, please, please tell me...


do I still get blue hair, glitter, and more natural make-up choices?


I don't wanna be an image designer with no red lipstick and have to do stat migrations... uuuuuuuuugh



Darkagent101
Thu May 06, 2004 12:15 am
#44

EVERYONE STOP!


I'm going to assume this is that 'controversial' subject Kwee mentioned in the red-thread. If so then I can see why it would seem that way. But people, please. DO NOT drop. Heaven knows we've had enough community shakeups to notwant another.


Currently, all of you who are Image Designers are members of the community. Kwee, our correspondant, has been the representative of the community to the DEV's. We have the means, now let's use them. Don't just 'give up'. GET UP!


Before we all go hog-wild angry, I suggest we do what we need to do to properly protest these changes. Fuschia, you ESPECIALLY surprise me. Wow! The dev's announce a bad change! Not the first time they've done it! Are you just going to GIVE UP now? Just going to let it go, do your thing, deal with the pain, and to hell with the rest?! SCREW THAT.


I think it's time we all sit down and have a nice long forum thread with the DEV's over what to do here. I hate to say it, but I would actually be in favor of *GASP* Postponing the 8.1 until they get it straight.


THE NEXT PERSON who says they quit LOSES my vote of confidence. Understand?


Now then... do we fight, or give up? Who's with me?




Charina and Carshea
Sunnrunner and Test Center
Syzygy-Gorath
Thu May 06, 2004 12:15 am
#45






Kwee wrote:





Sir_Voor wrote:






Kwee wrote:



Stat Migration - ID's will be the only way for stat migration to happen, and it will be possible only in a tent. Silly me, I'venever thoughtto ask if it will be instant, we should know soon.





? And only 5-6 days to TC it ?


? And still no ID XP fix I assume ? ( No ID XP fix + critical function = 100,000 IDers by May 5th )


Message Edited by Sir_Voor on 05-05-2004 02:12 PM



Yes ID exp will be massively slowed down by the enforced timer. Our dev will be doing only bug fixing this week.







Like Fuschia, I don't give a damn if anyone thinks my posts are negative—obviously it doesn't make a goddamn bit of difference when it comes to get bent over the table. Here's a bug to fix: take this **edit**ing stat migration **edit** OUT!



œ Slone Varnillian œ Eicia Obai œ Panda-Sy œ
Most of the universe's problems can be solved by the application of a brick to the side of the right head.
The problem is if you don't have a big enough brick or can't find the right head. The devil is in the details.
œ Galena Varnillian œ Ammon œ Gwrtheyrn œ

RynaNasao
Thu May 06, 2004 12:21 am
#46

Syzygy-Gorath
Thu May 06, 2004 12:25 am
#47






Darkagent101 wrote:

EVERYONE STOP!


I'm going to assume this is that 'controversial' subject Kwee mentioned in the red-thread. If so then I can see why it would seem that way. But people, please. DO NOT drop. Heaven knows we've had enough community shakeups to notwant another.


Currently, all of you who are Image Designers are members of the community. Kwee, our correspondant, has been the representative of the community to the DEV's. We have the means, now let's use them. Don't just 'give up'. GET UP!


Before we all go hog-wild angry, I suggest we do what we need to do to properly protest these changes. Fuschia, you ESPECIALLY surprise me. Wow! The dev's announce a bad change! Not the first time they've done it! Are you just going to GIVE UP now? Just going to let it go, do your thing, deal with the pain, and to hell with the rest?! SCREW THAT.


I think it's time we all sit down and have a nice long forum thread with the DEV's over what to do here. I hate to say it, but I would actually be in favor of *GASP* Postponing the 8.1 until they get it straight.


THE NEXT PERSON who says they quit LOSES my vote of confidence. Understand?


Now then... do we fight, or give up? Who's with me?







Have you been paying attention to what's happened throughout this minipublish prep time? They gave us a set of proposed changes we liked, then, without word or warning, scrapped half of them for some innane holo-emotes none of us are too keen on. THEN they took a suggestion that we quite clearly stated we DID NOT want to be the only way for stat migration and made it the only way. We've talked and talked and talked, and produced some of the best, most articulate, and most balanced player suggestion I've ever seen—and this is what we get for it. The time for talk is over. We've said our piece and been ignored. I see no point in continuing to be nice or accepting whatever handouts they're willing to give us. Time to find a profession that's already been changed so I don't have to worry about it being ruined for another 6 months.



œ Slone Varnillian œ Eicia Obai œ Panda-Sy œ
Most of the universe's problems can be solved by the application of a brick to the side of the right head.
The problem is if you don't have a big enough brick or can't find the right head. The devil is in the details.
œ Galena Varnillian œ Ammon œ Gwrtheyrn œ

icklegoffgurl
Thu May 06, 2004 12:26 am
#48

Oh my god. I feel tell hell fast approaching.


I feelthe majority of non ID players will HATE this change and in turn this hate may be directed at us.


People are going to want stats changing and theyre gonna want it for free and im gonna have to find a bleeding tent everytime and there arnt many IDers around and the skill will be slower now to learn too yadda yadda yadda.


Alteast we still get to keep the old stuff and new colours should be nice.I dont care what people say im still going to test it to death on test centre. However I may refuse to do stat changes on live (it wasnt in my original contract) and someones going to have to pay me a lot of money if they want a floating skull above their head I can tell you that now.


I am just relieved that its going on to test now so atleast we get to see the damage first hand.







cdab Inferno abcd

Master Swordswoman / Teras Kasi Mistress

Proud owner of Wong Fei-hung


Aesie
Thu May 06, 2004 12:27 am
#49


Hold the show....You mean People are going to have to stand in line in those tents and hope that one of the FEW image designers is around to migrate their stats? I'm sorry but this is a HUGE no no. I say take this out immediately!


Aesie


Sir_Voor
Thu May 06, 2004 12:29 am
#50






Darkagent101 wrote:

EVERYONE STOP!


THE NEXT PERSON who says they quit LOSES my vote of confidence. Understand?


Now then... do we fight, or give up? Who's with me?




First we need to do is to take a deep breath andget all the facts Then decide what to do... just look how much the facts have change in the past hour, so everyone calm down and think happy thoughts








[`M Sir VOOR N`\

MarinhaTiga
Thu May 06, 2004 12:32 am
#51





Kwee wrote:

In case TH doesn't get back to this thread, let me briefly touch on the function of the tents (which we'll be able to play with on Test Center later today):


Stat Migration - ID's will be the only way for stat migration to happen, and it will be possible only in a tent. Silly me, I'venever thoughtto ask if it will be instant, we should know soon. If i read this right... only an Image Designer will be able to make stats migrate when this goes live? I thought we had asked for increased stat migration by an Image Designer, not total dependance on one. So if I want to please all the people (so they dont cuss at me and send me nasty emails) ill have to travel to laggy Theed or Coronet (places i try to avoid) fight the lag so i can move their stats? Bleh. I see posts all the time on here where people ask "where's the starwars?" but now i need to ask, where's the Image Design?


Time cut in half - There will be a new system to get ID experience (this will be tweaked until a casual player takes a month to master ID). There will be a minimum timer for each ID session (and multiple ID changes will be possible at once, yay!). This is very minimal (not sure if the times I was given some time ago are what ended up happening) and will be cut in half if you are a Master ID, and also cut in half if you are inside the tent, for a potential cut of 1/4 of the time if you are a Master in a tent. Why is it not instant for a Master Image Designer? A Master Image Desginer already has the Xp she or he needs. I cant wait to hear the numbers from test center as far as how long it takes ID sessions to take now. Im going to have to wait to ID myself and if i want to do it faster, i have to go to laggy Coronet/Theed? Bleh.


Terminals - There will only be one terminal in the tent (our dev made this decision to give us more room in there and to prevent fighting over terminals). We will only have to stand in the tent to "use the terminal", not actually have one per customer/ID pair.


I'll dispense more detail later today (prob tonight)after I've had time to test some.





Where's the decreased mind cost? Its apparent that we will need these tents now, so I ask "Where is our droid module that lets us work where we want?"


Im sorry to sound so negative Kwee, even before I get to see this stuff. I was really looking forward to this stuff we were supposed to be getting and now we get skulls and kitties floating around our heads (i think the kitties are cute tho!) instead of glitter in our hair.






Marinha Tiga
Master Image Designer
Master Dancer
Master Entertainer
Musician 0-0-3-0
Artisan 0-0-0-4
Vericona
Thu May 06, 2004 12:34 am
#52






DarkCable wrote:

actually, I am for Image Designers being the only ones that can enable a person to use Stat Migration...


AS LONG AS, the stat migration is pretty much instant (<2 minutes)


I mean look at doctors, they can buff...IDers should be able to migrate stats.


I still think the user should be able to do it themselves...just at the long / incredibly long stat migration delay.


Master IDers will just make it happen much quicker for a small fee.


--


DarkCable









I agree with DarkCable on this one. I don't mind doing it quickly, but I don't want to be bothered about it all the time. Let everyone keep the long migration delay as well.


Message Edited by Vericona on 05-05-2004 12:35 PM



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