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Thread: ID Enhancements...

Vrykolakas
Thu May 06, 2004 8:27 am
#40

Corbantis will have one less Master Image Designer if this stat migration change makes it to live.

Nerfing the entire playerbase to give one class an ability they don't want has got to be a contender for the dumbest thing yet in this game.

Wasn't there something Holocron said a long time ago about taking things away from the players being bad?
Syzygy-Gorath
Thu May 06, 2004 8:39 am
#41






JustG wrote:


[snip]


The stat-changes are a big issue, and we did not announce them beforehand. We chose not to announce because we anticipated a large, initial backlash, but ultimately felt that it was the best thing for the game. Runesabre's vision of your profession includes one absolutely critical interdependence with all other professions. Most people do not do frequent changes. We don't think you will be overloaded with requests. And you will provide a very valuable service far faster than it could have been done before!


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I'd like to add my voice in hoping that this doesn't become the norm. The backlash you've seen to many proposed changes wasn't because you announced them, it was because of a failure to fully explain them. Using the chef revamp, the primary concerns I heard from my chef friends was that there would be a lack of "multi-stat" foods. This turned out not to be the case, and their fears were unfounded. But if the system had been accurately explained to begin with there may not have been those fears to quell. So please, in the future, don't keep us in dark—explain things to us more fully.




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Dodd
Thu May 06, 2004 8:41 am
#42

Nolan007, no...that's not what I'm saying at all. What I'm saying that droids emoting useless holograms fits in the SW context a whole lot better than "magical" emotes adorning avatar heads. As Caf mentioned above, it smacks of magic, and as we both know - in theory this is what differs SWG from EQ.

Respectfully,

Message Edited by Dodd on 05-06-2004 11:45 AM



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nolan007
Thu May 06, 2004 8:57 am
#43






Dodd wrote:
Nolan007, no...that's not what I'm saying at all. What I'm saying that droids emoting useless holograms fits in the SW context a whole lot better than "magical" emotes adorning avatar heads. As Caf mentioned above, it smacks of magic, and as we both know - in theory this is what differs SWG from EQ.

Respectfully,


Message Edited by Dodd on 05-06-2004 11:45 AM






I agree.






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TroThorns
Thu May 06, 2004 9:02 am
#44






Andymantium wrote:





JustG wrote:


...The stat-changes are a big issue, and we did not announce them beforehand. We chose not to announce because we anticipated a large, initial backlash, but ultimately felt that it was the best thing for the game...




Hmm..I hope this doesn't become the standard for future changes. If you expected that kind of response, maybe it was something to reconsider? I hope that community feedback (the constructive ones) in the futurewon't bepushed aside/ignored simply because there will be a potential for whining on the forums..






I think it is funny that SOE has taken one of the most successful franchises ever (Star Wars) and made it into an MMORPG that barely has the same subscription numbers as several other non-franchised games (DAOC for example, has same or higher subscription numbers).


Given that fact, do you really think you know what is in the best interests of the game? It is obvious you have totally failed to achieve that so far - maybe you should try listening to your customers more.... Just a thought



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Suboshi
Thu May 06, 2004 9:15 am
#45






Kwee wrote:

Thank you for your post G And for your cameo at the Theed tent this afternoon






Ah MAN, I must have JUST barely missed him!



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NJ62
Thu May 06, 2004 9:37 am
#46

I shall stalk the ID tent until he comes back bwahahahhahahah!



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Roeding
Thu May 06, 2004 10:06 am
#47






JustG wrote:


Runesabre's vision of your profession includes one absolutely critical interdependence with all other professions.




So why is it that every other profession in the game now depend on ID, while ID depends on none?


I hope you will reconsider this change, at least keep the old stat migration also.


And i REALLY hope you will make it optional to display the hugely immersion-breaking new emotes.








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PlayeroftheDay
Thu May 06, 2004 10:21 am
#48

"I think the emotes will be fun in certain situations as well. (C'mon... a kitty!!) Tatoos and scars, as you are aware, fell outside of our tech budget for this round."


JustG, I'm not going to be entirely negative, but unfortunately I am unable to come up with something that is counter-constructive. I think that almost all the changes for the IDs are great, and I understand that budgets and timeframes are of the essence but I can honestly say that SWG or the Star Wars Universe has no place what so -ever for CATS. Scars and tattoos are what I really would have liked to see.


Tesshu


PlayeroftheDay
Thu May 06, 2004 10:23 am
#49

And I know, you really didn't have that professed enthusiasm when you wrote that down, go on, admit it.


Tesshu
GonkSevenT3
Thu May 06, 2004 10:36 am
#50


I don't see the issue with stat migration. I mean honestly, how often do people change their stats? On top of that, why wouldn't it be an ID related function? They are personal trainers. When people look to drastically change their physical fitness in a short time they hire a personal trainer. This makes perfect sense to me and this wave of crying nerf is silly. One argument seems to be that it's almost impossible to find and ID. Well that's because the prof is pretty useless now and only attracts a few players. With changes like they are putting in, more people may want to play ID's and it will be much easier to find them. I think this will be good for all over time after this silly backlash dies down.


PS I'm still not sure how I feel about the holo emotes. But I've enjoyed the game thus far in every aspect and am willing to trust in the devs' judgement with this one.





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Tira-Misu
Thu May 06, 2004 10:42 am
#51






Roeding wrote:



So why is it that every other profession in the game now depend on ID, while ID depends on none?



Without other players, an ID would have nothing to do at all. so IDs do in fact depend greatly on other professions.




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GonkSevenT3
Thu May 06, 2004 10:56 am
#52


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Hehe off topic, but your names made me chuckle....and a bit hungry



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