Image Designer Archive
Thread: Things you hate to hear Customers say.
Luti0n wrote:
Ok, maybe I'm showing my age here, but what does a/s/l stand for?
-Lution
Age/Sex/Location. It's usually a prelude to a request for (ugh) cybersex. Oddly enough (and I swear I found this out totally by accident) MSN Messenger has a built-in ASL emoticon. Kinda threw me for a second when I first saw it, I couldn't figure out why they would include that "out of the box."
This has happened a lot to me, too. I'm not sure if it is because I am in the ID tent or because I am a twi'lek. Something just brings out the freaks.
Shrew_Tamer wrote:
This doesn't just happen cause i'm IDer but it has happened alot to me in the ID tent..
Are you a girl IRL?
)And I agree entirely, it is a "laziness" that causes your students to write in that way. But it's very similar to the way in which Shakespeare was lazy - he couldn't even bothered to spell consistantly (apparently throughout his works he spelt words differently within a few lines of each other). However, as you said, that was appropriate because he was only writing for it to be acted, where as you are teaching formal writing and should be looking at the laziness negatively. The laziness bothers me too. I was just offering a slightly tongue-in-cheek alternative view on the matter
But your point on ee cummings and Shakespeare having allowances that we don't have is interesting - sure, allowances shouldn't be given to seventh graders being taught to write formally, but in an informal game such as this, should we give allowances in language to see if the person has something worthwhile to say? Personally I find myself quickly disregarding anyone who types that way the moment they start saying anything. Now I may rethink that...if I'd had my old views of "only those writing good English (aside from non-native speakers) have worthwhile things to say" (okay, I wasn't quite THAT bad!) and the next Shakespeare had turned up, would I have ignored his genius due to lazy spelling? Also, it's worth noting Shakespeare was living in a time when the English language was becoming more standardised. As far as I'm aware, 1604 is when the first dictionary was compiled. However, if you look at Shakespeare's bibliography, some of his most prolific and well known works were first performed after this date, including King Lear, Macbeth, Antony and Cleopatra, The Winter's Tale, The Tempest and Henry VIII (this one debuting about 9 years later, in 1613). Admittedly it would be stupid to assume that the moment this dictionary was released, language was standardised, but it just shows how Shakespeare was writing during a standardisation
Oh, and as for the spelling of his name, in Shakespeare's last will and testament he spelt 'Shakespeare' four different ways in four different places, including Shackspear.
Mawie wrote:
FuschiaD wrote:
Mawie wrote:LOL
Don't get me started with my rant about the internet's role in killing the English language as we knew it!
Please... feel free to expound! Here, I'll start.
I don't mind things like: LOL, BRB, AFK. They STAND for something. They're not abbreviated words, they're acronyms, that have become common in Internet speak. And sometimes, when you gotta pee, typing in BRB is SO much quicker than saying "Pardon me, I must retire to the bathroom before I have an accident."
HOWEVER....
Things like: plz, u, r, n e way. These make me grit my teeth. More often than not they make me yell. I absolutely laid into a poor guild member today for saying n e way. That one bothers me more than any of them, for one simple reason.... *draws a deep breath*IT'S ONE LETTER LESS! ONE TINY, INSIGNIFICANT LETTER! ARE YOU REALLY SAVING TIME BY DOING THAT? NO! I DON'T THINK YOU ARE!
I'm done now. And I really am going to bed, LOL.
OK, quick story (then I need to go to bed, too!)
Last semester I student taught 7th grade language arts. So, my first week, I took home almost 120 papers with me to read over. No lie, nearly 80% of the papers had SOOOOOOOOOO many of those lazy abbreviations in them, and a good 10% didn't use CAPITALIZATION or any discernable amount of PUNCTUATION.
SEVENTH GRADERS.
I can forgive the occasional comma splice or homonym, but darn it, type "you" rather than "u", don't use acronyms like LOL, and for heaven's sakes, CAPITALIZE THE FIRST LETTER OF THE FIRST WORD IN EVERY SENTENCE!
AIM/AOL has made kids (and lots of adults) lazy beyond belief!
Try grading College Junior Level Engineering Papers
Every fall I'm amazed at how many students don't know the difference between were and where, or affect and effect.
Darkesong wrote:
I hate to hear:
Client: "but....can't you make my hair any whiter?? Thats more like grey"
Darke: well....yes I can, but i just felt like not giving you what you wanted
/sigh
wish that white was a bitwhiter tho lol
Also, when people ask me to list everything I can do ID wise....it can take quite bit of typing to list it all while they wait impatiently typing ?? every 5 seconds or so ( i really should make a macro lol)....and then, even though I told them everything I could do...they still ask me to change their skin color in the middle of the ID session >_<
oh well *shrugs*
Oh yes, the color-stuff...
"This is the darkest (enter color of choice here) you have?"
or
Customer "But I have seen a human with striking red eyes! It must be possible!"
T'Ressa "Sorry, on my colorpalette for human eyes there is no 'striking red'. Had this human you mentioned any horns on his head maybe?"
Customer "Yes, horns! Can you make me some, too? and such a cool Tattoo in the face while you are at it, please."
T'Ressa "In that case you need to make a new Character and make him a Zabrak, humans don't have those horns and tattoos."
Customer "But I have seen a human with those!"
*sigh*
May the Force be with you all!
TechnoCan
ask me over and over for a torso change! You cant have a big chest!
We can only change things that you could change at char creation, so please,
for the love of god, dont call me a liar! *ends her rant*
TarakAbolai wrote:
But your point on ee cummings and Shakespeare having allowances that we don't have is interesting - sure, allowances shouldn't be given to seventh graders being taught to write formally, but in an informal game such as this, should we give allowances in language to see if the person has something worthwhile to say? Personally I find myself quickly disregarding anyone who types that way the moment they start saying anything. Now I may rethink that...if I'd had my old views of "only those writing good English (aside from non-native speakers) have worthwhile things to say" (okay, I wasn't quite THAT bad!) and the next Shakespeare had turned up, would I have ignored his genius due to lazy spelling?
I think that allowances can be made... to a point. Honestly, yes, the first time I was on the internet (I must have been 13 at the time), the whole idea of typing "u" was cool with me. But as time went on, and my typing speed increased, it wasn't advantageousfor me in the least not to spell "you" out. It is two less letters... it doesn't take any incredible effort to press two more stinking buttons.
I think the real issue I have with this laziness (besides its creeping into formal writing) is how it comes across. I see it, and a few things come to mind.
- They are lazy, and therefore not interesting.
- They are 13, and therefore not interesting.
- They are going to go AFK and leave me to sit there watching them stat migrate, and therefore not interesting.
It always seems to be one of those three things. I have a guildmate who's grammar and spelling HORRIFY me, but I can tell he is making an effort to not sound like a dolt, so I am totally cool when he messes up. I guess I am some kind ofgrammar snob, but I don't want to deal with people who can't bother to sound remotely human.
As for one of my former students being the next great poet, author, or playwright... I can only hope one makes it. That'd be hot. However, none of them could write formally well enough to be allowed to say "I didn't use a single period in my entire essay, because I wanted to go for a new literary style." UH UH.
Mawie wrote:
TarakAbolai wrote:
But your point on ee cummings and Shakespeare having allowances that we don't have is interesting - sure, allowances shouldn't be given to seventh graders being taught to write formally, but in an informal game such as this, should we give allowances in language to see if the person has something worthwhile to say? Personally I find myself quickly disregarding anyone who types that way the moment they start saying anything. Now I may rethink that...if I'd had my old views of "only those writing good English (aside from non-native speakers) have worthwhile things to say" (okay, I wasn't quite THAT bad!) and the next Shakespeare had turned up, would I have ignored his genius due to lazy spelling?
I think that allowances can be made... to a point. Honestly, yes, the first time I was on the internet (I must have been 13 at the time), the whole idea of typing "u" was cool with me. But as time went on, and my typing speed increased, it wasn't advantageousfor me in the least not to spell "you" out. It is two less letters... it doesn't take any incredible effort to press two more stinking buttons.
I think the real issue I have with this laziness (besides its creeping into formal writing) is how it comes across. I see it, and a few things come to mind.
- They are lazy, and therefore not interesting.
- They are 13, and therefore not interesting.
- They are going to go AFK and leave me to sit there watching them stat migrate, and therefore not interesting.
It always seems to be one of those three things. I have a guildmate who's grammar and spelling HORRIFY me, but I can tell he is making an effort to not sound like a dolt, so I am totally cool when he messes up. I guess I am some kind ofgrammar snob, but I don't want to deal with people who can't bother to sound remotely human.
As for one of my former students being the next great poet, author, or playwright... I can only hope one makes it. That'd be hot. However, none of them could write formally well enough to be allowed to say "I didn't use a single period in my entire essay, because I wanted to go for a new literary style." UH UH.
Oh, tragedy! Mawie might stunt a budding William Faulkner!
What would the world be like without his impossibly long run-on sentences!?!
Seriously though... I don't buy into this whole "They aren't speaking the language of yesteryear, the l33t d00ds are speaking the language of the future." William Shakespeare, and ee cummings proved they knew how to write before they evolved unique styles. "U, r, n e" is not just lazy, but it is indicative of a lack of eloquence and basic proficiency. *Especially* in adults where it is expectedthat the speakerbe at least a little practiced.
D00dism turns people off, especially in an online MMOLRPG. Words here are how you communicate yourself, and I treat people based on how they phrase themselves. If you express yourself stupidly, I will assume you are at least a little stupid. Speak well, and I'll assume you are a reasonably intelligent member of the species homo sapien and I think that's a fair assumption.
So, basically, what I mean to say is.. speak however you like, but don't be offended if people talk down to you when you say 'were r u?' because what other basis do people judge by in a game like SWG if not language?