Image Designer Archive
Thread: Things you hate to hear Customers say.
Plagvreugd
Fri Jul 09, 2004 2:00 am
#14
Completely off topic, but still fun: I'm not a native speaker, although I always tried to pay attention in English classes. Not only do people seem to be at a complete loss when it comes to where and were, or affect and effect, I see a lot of people mess up with your and you're, andtheir, there, and they're. And the people whom I see do that are British. Come to think of it, I was walking around Cambridge once on holiday (why?) and I saw an advertisement for a bank, that wrote ensure where they clearly meant insure. I pointed it out to my boyfriend, who wouldn't believe me when I said it was wrong, so we went to a book store and looked it up in a dictionary there. That's €10 for me, thank you.
To see that seventh grade children (I'm not sure at what age people are in seventh grade, I'm just guessing it's roughly the same as with us, which would make them about 13) use u and r and have completely done away with punctuation in essays is very troubling. Language is of course not static, but instead something that changes over time. I would really hate to see I am, u r, he is in school books one hundred years from now. Personally I dislike a lot of things in contemporary (American-) English, like gonna, wanna, dunno although I must confess to using them myself too, and, my personal number one: the excessive, inappropriate use of the phrases so, like and you know, as in So I was like, you know, so not interested, and then she was like... I really hate that.
Incidentally, at times I encounter other Dutch people in the game and sometimesI'll chat a bit in Dutch (most often I'll just stick to English) and I am truly shocked at the huge number of mistakes against Dutch spelling and grammar people are making - and I'm talking about basic, elementary things.
Ok, back on topic - things I hate to have customers say to me.
- LOL - when I tell them how much I charge for ID
- I need an ID now! - when I'm busy milking banthas or something
- I don't have to pay you, because you get xp - I'm a Master, I don't need your stinking xp. And even if I did, you would still have to pay
- Fix my stats - what's wrong with 'hello, can you migrate my stats please?'
- I want my horns, hair, and tattoo to have the same colour - after I had been explaining to him for an hour that it wasn't possible
- I want something completely different. - and then go on to say 'hey, don't touch the tattoo, don't change my hair, don't do this, don't do that'
- Can you show me all hair colours? - I point out that there are over 200 different colours and that shuts em up usually, although one guy replied 'ok, can you show me?'
- No, it was the hair style before this, no, go one back again, go one back again, go one back again - and we end up with the first hair style that I proposed
- Can you make me new clothes - I'm not a tailor!
Thewt
Syzygy-Gorath
Fri Jul 09, 2004 4:03 am
#15
Plagvreugd wrote:
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Personally I dislike a lot of things in contemporary (American-) English, like gonna, wanna, dunno although I must confess to using them myself too, and, my personal number one: the excessive, inappropriate use of the phrases so, like and you know, as in So I was like, you know, so not interested, and then she was like... I really hate that.
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Ooh. I got on my brother-in-law's sister's case about the "like" thing. She's several years my senior, and through an odd twist of fate we both ended up attending the same university (at different times.) Whenever we would find outselves together at family gatherings she would constantly do the "like" thing, and I must admit, it's far more prevalent in the area we went to university in than it is in either of our home towns. And it really, really, really annoys me. So I finally asked her if she actually ever did anything, or if she only sort-of, kind-of, "like" did things. I can be a real **edit**. 
P.S. Fuschia, I hope to god they were saying "ne way" or "neway," because "n e way" is actually one character more than the correct spelling…and I think I might have to cry if today's youth was stupid enough to "shorten" a word to one character longer than it should be.
Jinnistacia
Fri Jul 09, 2004 4:43 am
#16
So, I'm guessing you would like, totally hate this website? *teases you*
http://www.80s.com/Entertainment/ValleyURL/
Plagvreugd wrote:
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Personally I dislike a lot of things in contemporary (American-) English, you know like gonna, wanna, dunno although I must confess to like using them myself too you know, and, like my personal number one: the excessive, inappropriate use of the phrases so, like and you know, as in like So I was like, you know, like, you know, so not interested, and then she was like, you know, like... I like, totally hate that.
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Ooh. I got on my brother-in-law's sister's case like, you know, about the "like" thing Like, she's like several years my senior, and through an gnarly twist of fate like we both ended up attending the same university (at different times. Like, whenever like we would find outselves together at family gatherings she would like constantly do the "like" thing, and I must admit, it's far more prevalent in the area we like went to university in than it is in like either of our home towns. Like, gag me with a spoon! And it like totally, totally, totally annoys me Anyway... So I like finally asked her if she actually ever did anything, or if she only sort-of, kind-of, "like" did things. I can be a real **edit**.
P.S. Fuschia, I hope to god they were saying "ne way" or "neway," because "n e way" is totally actually one character more than the TOTALLY right spelling and I think I might liketotally have to cry if today's youth was like, you know, mondo geekmo enough to "shorten" a word to one character longer than it should be.
Syzygy-Gorath
Fri Jul 09, 2004 4:45 am
#17
Diiiiiiiiiiiiiiie!!!!
Jinnistacia wrote:
So, I'm guessing you would like, totally hate this website? *teases you*
http://www.80s.com/Entertainment/ValleyURL/
Plagvreugd wrote:
[snip]
Personally I dislike a lot of things in contemporary (American-) English, you know like gonna, wanna, dunno although I must confess to like using them myself too you know, and, like my personal number one: the excessive, inappropriate use of the phrases so, like and you know, as in like So I was like, you know, like, you know, so not interested, and then she was like, you know, like... I like, totally hate that.
[snip]
Ooh. I got on my brother-in-law's sister's case like, you know, about the "like" thing Like, she's like several years my senior, and through an gnarly twist of fate like we both ended up attending the same university (at different times. Like, whenever like we would find outselves together at family gatherings she would like constantly do the "like" thing, and I must admit, it's far more prevalent in the area we like went to university in than it is in like either of our home towns. Like, gag me with a spoon! And it like totally, totally, totally annoys me Anyway... So I like finally asked her if she actually ever did anything, or if she only sort-of, kind-of, "like" did things. I can be a real **edit**.
P.S. Fuschia, I hope to god they were saying "ne way" or "neway," because "n e way" is totally actually one character more than the TOTALLY right spelling and I think I might liketotally have to cry if today's youth was like, you know, mondo geekmo enough to "shorten" a word to one character longer than it should be.
Mawie
Fri Jul 09, 2004 7:48 am
#18
Bracci wrote:
Mawie wrote:
FuschiaD wrote:
Mawie wrote:
LOL
Don't get me started with my rant about the internet's role in killing the English language as we knew it!
Please... feel free to expound! Here, I'll start.
I don't mind things like: LOL, BRB, AFK. They STAND for something. They're not abbreviated words, they're acronyms, that have become common in Internet speak. And sometimes, when you gotta pee, typing in BRB is SO much quicker than saying "Pardon me, I must retire to the bathroom before I have an accident."
HOWEVER....
Things like: plz, u, r, n e way. These make me grit my teeth. More often than not they make me yell. I absolutely laid into a poor guild member today for saying n e way. That one bothers me more than any of them, for one simple reason.... *draws a deep breath*
IT'S ONE LETTER LESS! ONE TINY, INSIGNIFICANT LETTER! ARE YOU REALLY SAVING TIME BY DOING THAT? NO! I DON'T THINK YOU ARE!
I'm done now. And I really am going to bed, LOL.
OK, quick story (then I need to go to bed, too!)
Last semester I student taught 7th grade language arts. So, my first week, I took home almost 120 papers with me to read over. No lie, nearly 80% of the papers had SOOOOOOOOOO many of those lazy abbreviations in them, and a good 10% didn't use CAPITALIZATION or any discernable amount of PUNCTUATION.
SEVENTH GRADERS.
I can forgive the occasional comma splice or homonym, but darn it, type "you" rather than "u", don't use acronyms like LOL, and for heaven's sakes, CAPITALIZE THE FIRST LETTER OF THE FIRST WORD IN EVERY SENTENCE!
AIM/AOL has made kids (and lots of adults) lazy beyond belief!
Try grading College Junior Level Engineering PapersEvery fall I'm amazed at how many students don't know the difference between were and where, or affect and effect.
7th grade in the USA is roughly 12, 13, and 14 year olds.
And Bracci, I would believe it. My freshman year of college I had to take college writing 1. I was the ONLY non-engineering or non-math major in the entire class (of about 25 people). We had weekly papers, and the professor each week would read an example of good writing and read an example of bad writing.
Guess who the good example was every week.
Cirroco_Una
Fri Jul 09, 2004 7:59 am
#19
Back after a nights sleep and time to consider what else I hate to hear here are some MORE things I hate when customers say!
- "Hey can R U AFK? Can U change my looks?"
If you want to talk to me speak bloody ENGLISH. I used to tolerate people like this but I now charge 1k for ever yabbreviated word spoken to me.
Example: Someone wantsa hair change for 2k. Okay I can do that. "Can U make it bright orange? LOL" Result, that 2k jsut became 4k. People who come to me now have learned they can't speak in moronic abbreviated computer language if they want my help
- "Can you show me all the hair/tattoo styles or eye/hair/tattoo/skin colors?"
There are over 200 colors people, I'm not a machine here folks I'm a player just like you, and I have better things to be doing than cycling through over a 12 dozen different colors.
- "Can you change my Stats?" (when asked in a city far from the nearest salon or on a planet where there is no salon)
Bloody hell folks it's been over a month since stat changes went into the IDer's abilities, how long does it take you to learn we have to be in a tent to do it!?
End Rant again. ^-^ Keep the posts coming!
- "Hey can R U AFK? Can U change my looks?"
If you want to talk to me speak bloody ENGLISH. I used to tolerate people like this but I now charge 1k for ever yabbreviated word spoken to me.
Example: Someone wantsa hair change for 2k. Okay I can do that. "Can U make it bright orange? LOL" Result, that 2k jsut became 4k. People who come to me now have learned they can't speak in moronic abbreviated computer language if they want my help
- "Can you show me all the hair/tattoo styles or eye/hair/tattoo/skin colors?"
There are over 200 colors people, I'm not a machine here folks I'm a player just like you, and I have better things to be doing than cycling through over a 12 dozen different colors.
- "Can you change my Stats?" (when asked in a city far from the nearest salon or on a planet where there is no salon)
Bloody hell folks it's been over a month since stat changes went into the IDer's abilities, how long does it take you to learn we have to be in a tent to do it!?
End Rant again. ^-^ Keep the posts coming!
Arcturean
Fri Jul 09, 2004 8:10 am
#20
In my case, it's not so much what they say, but what they do, or don't do:
Just a minor problem, but I wish that more people wouldbe awarethat all they have to do is put the money in credits offered space rather than doing a bank tip for my services. This way I can better keep track of what I'm getting paid.
It would also be nice ifafter I hit the "commit" button, my customer would know to click on "accept", and in a timelymanner. Sometimes more than a minute goes by when we're both in limbo.
Pisceana
TarakAbolai
Fri Jul 09, 2004 9:04 am
#21
Mawie wrote:
LOL
Don't get me started with my rant about the internet's role in killing the English language as we knew it!
Okay, before I write this post, I have to say I agree that the internet is largely responsible (alongside the text messaging culture) for the current travesty against the English language. I hate abbreviations like "u" and the lack of grammar and basic grasp of the language some people have today (although obviously in a game like this you have to make some allowances for non-native speakers). I'm not perfect myself, but at least I put in the effort!
However, I like to play devil's advocate, so here we you. You accuse the internet of "killing the English language" - I assume you mean be abbreviations, acronyms and the rest? Well, let me tell you, that kind of writing has been around for much longer than that, and used by people you wouldn't expect.
Let's take, for example, one of English literature's most celebrating playwrights: William Shakespeare.
Now, whether or not you enjoy his work, it would be hard to put up an argument that ignores his genius and contribution to literature as a whole. However, Shakespeare didn't write in "proper" English, nor did he spell consistently or worry hugely about grammar. His main aim was to write a manuscript that the actors could read, understand and perform easily...so he used abbreviations and, more predominately, words spelt phonetically. A good example of his disinterest in "spelling" is that in various places he dropped the "e" from the end of his name...so there are some documents signed "Shakespeare" and others "Shakespear".
So...that stupid seventh grader who wrote his report using "u" throughout and largely ignoring grammar and punctuation has a remarkable amount in common with one of Englands finest writers.
Metis_Onea
Fri Jul 09, 2004 10:00 am
#22
Oo, isn't this fun!
I also hate "plz" "r" "u" andall the rest of them!I have actually told people that if they wish to speak to me, they must do so in an actual language. 
Hm.. some recent actual conversations I've had ..
Client: What stats are good for ...
Me: I don't know, sorry. I leave that up to my clients.
Client: Then how can I wear my FULL SUIT OF UNSLICED COMPOSITE ARMOR?!?!?
Me: Well, you could get some buffs--especially since you're at twi'lek .. making it impossible for your stat to allow you to wear a full suit! /growl
Client: O.. can u buff me plz?!?!
"I want a new hair colour"
"Okay, what would you like?"
"I don't know .. just go through them"
"There's 256 colours"
"Oh.. can you go through them?"
"HOW 'BOUT NOOOO"
Ican't standall the "can you make me look like" clients. Egads!
Shrew_Tamer
Fri Jul 09, 2004 10:02 am
#23
This doesn't just happen cause i'm IDer but it has happened alot to me in the ID tent..
Are you a girl IRL?
or
a/s/l
Sorry boys i'm not playing Starwars Dating Game. And when I tell you that please stop. LOL My peeve is that some guys won't convers with you if you are not single IRL. If they don't then meh. F them imo.
My 2 copper
Mawie
Fri Jul 09, 2004 10:12 am
#24
I would never ever ever ever ever in a MILLION years consider (or call)any of my students "stupid." My entire point was that the laziness from the internet is now finding its way from informal writing to formal writing, and there is nothing more irritating than that.
As for Shakespeare, he wrote plays and poetry. Plays are not meant to be read, they are meant to be acted. So there is always room for some mistakes, especially in a society where the vast majority of people were illeterate. And poetry... well, look at ee cummings. He never uses capitalization. But these two men are given allowances because they are masters of their craft. Seventh graders (in fact, anyone formally writing) do not have those allowances because they need to learn or perfect their own abilities.
Furthermore, Shakespeare was writing in a time when the words in the English language did not have regulated spellings. Shakespeare's lifetime can shortly before the creation of the world's first dictionary (I believe it was written in 1604, although I could be wrong), and since there was no dictionary, no one knew exactly how words were spelled. They generally just phoenetically did their thing. Even after the creation of the dictionary, the regulated spellings took time to catch on because not everyone had access to this book.
And as for his last name... my last name is nine letters long. Yet, when I sign a check or something, it somehow magically skrinks to about six or seven letters.
Message Edited by Mawie on 07-09-2004 01:16 PM
NJ62
Fri Jul 09, 2004 10:33 am
#25
Shrew_Tamer wrote:This doesn't just happen cause i'm IDer but it has happened alot to me in the ID tent..Are you a girl IRL?ora/s/lSorry boys i'm not playing Starwars Dating Game. And when I tell you that please stop. LOL My peeve is that some guys won't convers with you if you are not single IRL. If they don't then meh. F them imo.My 2 copper
Ugh yah. I purposely picked a forum name that was sorta genderless to avoid such things. After I went to fanfest, the cat was out of the bag though
Luti0n
Fri Jul 09, 2004 10:47 am
#26
Ok, maybe I'm showing my age here, but what does a/s/l stand for?
-Lution