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I don't think that is what he meant.

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Rrowann wrote:

You willingly committed to being a helpless victim for 10 minutes in armor? Good lord I hope you were in the Vreni Island tent or somewhere no one goes to. Armor won't savetheStat Migrationif you're attacked in the middle of it.

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I like the idea that was presented earlier in the thread tho...

People who refuse to pay the agreed on price, just slide the weight slider all the way max.

Say sure, you can have your free migration, and you get to look like a fool.

I say weight only because its easy to fix and its blatantly obvious, even in comp.

-Sirix

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Syzygy-Gorath wrote:

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Rrowann wrote:

You willingly committed to being a helpless victim for 10 minutes in armor? Good lord I hope you were in the Vreni Island tent or somewhere no one goes to. Armor won't savetheStat Migrationif you're attacked in the middle of it.

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I was in Theed, actually. But you see, PvP isn't commonplace on TC. The problem is, I'm in one of the two "open target" PvP guilds, so I do have to worry about it. Thankfully buffs aren't commonplace on TC, and while the armor may not save the migration, the AT-ST I had sitting in the door of the tent most likely would have.

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LOL! That would work! Also would cut down on lines. I usually scold the attacker in my best terrier imatation. Never my customer. They are mine after all. /grab customer

Syzygy-Gorath wrote:

"As I said, there are numerous reasons to be IDed in armor. I did it the other night, because all I needed was a migration and I was overt at the time. I didnot feel like having to redo it because someone thought I was easy pickings at 00:01 on the timer. With that said, your built-in safeguard theory goes right out the window,"

For the most part we are talking about taking your helmet off for a few seconds. Most of the other changes can be noticed with the rest of your armor on. You would be hard pressed to prove to me that leaving your armor on is absolutely mandatory. Hell, you can put it on after the session starts and it won't show up in the view screen.

"so I'll repeat: there is no reason for an ID to modify a client's look simply because the client is wearing armor. If you believe this, or maintain that such a modification is even partially the client's fault you're one of the ones I said I was disgusted with."

Malicious, unrequested changes are deplorable and should not be tolerated but, if I forego a precaution and get burned by it not being in place, I am partially at fault. Screwing up does not make me a bad person, it just meansI should learn from the mistake.

By disagreeing with the original posters call for added checkboxes, I am in no way condoning the act of the person who victimized her or saying she deserved the grief she suffered. I feel bad for her and would have corrected them for free ifI happened upon someone in such a circumstance but, I truly believe the UI change suggested would be an unecessary waste of time that would likely lead to more problems than it would solve. Spend that dev time on the display bug and realize there are griefers all through this game that we need to watch out for.

Chasing Amy - Bria

Message Edited by SakeO on 09-08-2004 03:53 PM

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SakeO wrote:

Syzygy-Gorath wrote:

"As I said, there are numerous reasons to be IDed in armor. I did it the other night, because all I needed was a migration and I was overt at the time. I didnot feel like having to redo it because someone thought I was easy pickings at 00:01 on the timer. With that said, your built-in safeguard theory goes right out the window,"

For the most part we are talking about taking your helmet off for a few seconds. Most of the other changes can be noticed with the rest of your armor on. You would be hard pressed to prove to me that leaving your armor on is absolutely mandatory. Hell, you can put it on after the session starts and it won't show up in the view screen.

"so I'll repeat: there is no reason for an ID to modify a client's look simply because the client is wearing armor. If you believe this, or maintain that such a modification is even partially the client's fault you're one of the ones I said I was disgusted with."

Malicious, unrequested changes are deplorable and should not be tolerated but, if I forego a precaution and get burned by it not being in place, I am partially at fault. Screwing up does not make me a bad person, it just meansI should learn from the mistake.

By disagreeing with the original posters call for added checkboxes, I am in no way condoning the act of the person who victimized her or saying she deserved the grief she suffered. I feel bad for her and would have corrected them for free ifI happened upon someone in such a circumstance but, I truly believe the UI change suggested would be an unecessary waste of time that would likely lead to more problems than it would solve. Spend that dev time on the display bug and realize there are griefers all through this game that we need to watch out for.

Chasing Amy - Bria

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Disagreeing with added checkboxes is fine - I actually don't think there should be checkboxes. But there is a system in place that tells the customer that they have purchased holoemotes or a stat migration. Maybe extend this to also include "you have purchased a body cutomization" and "you have purchased a cosmetic alteration" etc. No extra steps for the ID or customer and it gives them a way to doublecheck what is being done.

However, since we all know there is no way this is happening anytime soon, in the meantime a customer should be aware of ways he/she can take precautions. Not taking precautions does not mean the customer is at fault - the griefer is always at fault - but most people won't really feel better by beiing able to blame the ID, they will just wish it never happened. To make sure it doesn't they should be aware of their options.

1. Don't wear armor.
2. If you were wearing armor reconnect to get rid of the armor bug.

I do understand, however, that taking off your armor is not always an option. Most times you will still appear as if you have your armor on in the ID window even if it is off. Logging off to fix this issue is not always an option. I sympathize with the 10 minute log in times, especially in high traffic areas like Theed or Coro. I will often crash when jumping into one of those cities and I try never to log there if I can help it. WHen my ID is logged there I will usually go get a snack or something while she is loading. Also reconnecting may cause havok with buffs, food, etc. that you have taken, especially if you crash out while reconnecting. If reconnecting is not an option you can take the following precautions:

3. Do not go to an ID of the oposite faction. RP is often sadly an excuse for bad behavior.
4. Go to someone you trust.
5. Cross your fingers and pray.

Fixing the bugs is, of course, the best solution. Fixing players personality problems would be even better lol.

There is a fine line on these forums between joke and reality. Talking about having a ray gun to use in PvP to mess up a person's looks without their consent is a joke. Fantisizing about changing a persons appearance after they have been extremely rude or possibly even sexually harrassing is stress relief. Condoning a non-consentual change in the face of someone who is extremely upset by it is just mean. If it is strees relief and not actually condoning then post it in the "Things you hate to hear customers say" thread.

(To avoid confusion - only the first paragraph was in response to your post SakeO - the rest was my random ramblings. )

Message Edited by Vorpaks on 09-09-2004 06:50 AM