Image Designer Archive
Thread: Incoming!!!
Nouva wrote:I can remember the time when I spoke poison about the hologrinders and a good majority of the community spat in my face, telling me to embrace them as our own because even they were part of the community. Now all I hear is dissent about hologrinders and the path being made easier. Irony is it not? Regardless of my being right 99.999999 44/100% of the time, I value your opinions, but consider few when they affect the profession as a whole because some combat monkey wants his migration done faster.
I don't recall that the community "embraced" hologrinders. I have been here just as long as you. Furthermore, I will have to politely disagree that any human being is right 99.44% of the time, no offense.
That would be a nifty way to readdress the balance.
FuschiaD wrote:I'm supremely unconcerned about this. Now that hologrinding is over, the only people that are going to bother with this are the people who WANT to be an ID. And those are still pretty rare.
I completely agree, with the removal of Stat migrations we will see a vast reduction in the amount of IDs that are around - frankly this is a good thing for business as we won't have to put with smacktards that know nothing so we get a bad rep and undercut a hard-working IDers prices. All good things, as they say....
Message Edited by Atlantiss on 03-20-2005 02:49 PM
FuschiaD wrote:
I'm supremely unconcerned about this. Now that hologrinding is over, the only people that are going to bother with this are the people who WANT to be an ID. And those are still pretty rare.
I feel the same way. Especially with stat migrations being removed.
I am also extremely happy that I will be able to make my Ultimate Entertainer without having to sacrifice either Dance or Music. 
P.S. I also don't understand why some people think that they need to spend at least X# of skill points in order to "justify" their profession.
Message Edited by Maisland on 03-20-2005 10:40 AM
)Myself, I would feel that being a Master ID is worth it even if they removed the skill point cost completely... same with regards to the timers going away... and I mastered ID twice back when stat migrations not only took 10 minutes, but were worth a grand total of 600 xp each.
TechnoCan wrote:
It's really a tricky psycological thingy... If something is "cheaper" counting in a limited resource like skillpoints, then most people automatically think it is worth less. This feeling is enhanced by the setup of the professions. Every profession looks the same... 1 novice box, 16 skillboxes in 4 skilltries and one master box.
I don't recall that the community "embraced" hologrinders. I have been here just as long as you. Furthermore, I will have to politely disagree that any human being is right 99.44% of the time, no offense.
N'Jessi, you must have a lapse in memory as you were thier biggest supporter in your crusade to keep everyone in the community happy when I was speaking truth about the state of the profession, as negative as it was then. Do a forum search, it won't be too hard to find proof of this. The community at that time, all presented very good ideas, but failed to see the consequences of thier input. Hence, why I must now politely disagree with you in your contradiction to my 99.44% being right all the time.
You never agreed with me on the support of the timer, nor my ideas on how to deal with the hologrinding situation, a fued that lasted weeks, which resulted in my being banned from the forums because of a community that could not handle the truth and saw fit to eliminate me from thier utopia, as if that provided any results from development. Rather than settle for the scraps that development handed to us with the ID patch, I fought for more. There was nothing positive to say about the ID revamp. What did we really receive that should not have been there since launch? Our UI, fixed bugs, and expanded palatte was showing attention and love? After what? A year? And slipping in stat migrations was both a bane and a blessing, but more so a bane as it destroyed the profession for a long while. So what positive thing could I say about a supposive revamp? Of course many of you who disagreed with me then, now came to thier senses and understand. That is all the point I was trying to make in my last post.
Criticism, does not always to be positive. Many of you at the time had a difficult time dealing with that because the community was going through a crisis. I can understand that. However, seeing the world through rose colored glasses is not healthy, and if there is an issue, it needs to be addressed, not a search for the silver lining behind a dark cloud. I am not here to argue, nor am I here to make you all believe everything is peachy, cute and fuzzy like a warm security blanket. I will tell you all like it is and that is that. It is not personal it is truth coming from experience and understanding. It is a tough love, but it is a love for you all and our profession, remember that.
I was an excellent Master ID.
Wahini wrote:
Hello Muscar, I am glad that you decided to stay ID. I gave it up last night to get Master TK again. I was fed up with the attitude and immaturity of the clientele on Bria. I had one customer who was 11 years old!! She couldn't even type well enough for me to understand what it was she wanted!! And the number of people 'demanding' "ID" and never offering payment got to be too large. It's worse than that really these people expect to be given free ID. Compared to when I was starting out and even during the high point of my career I never earned all that much money. Then recently the influx of youngsters pushed my aggravation over the top. The only busy Salonon Bria is in Theed which is totally ridiculous. Most newbies hasn't a clue what an ID does or why they should go to one. This does not bode well for the profession and an extra 16 skill points would not have been enough to give me back my Master TK. I needed to be able to have a combat profession as well.
Last night I was sent a desperate tell while hunting on Dantooine. A customer said he couldn't find an ID of any kind to do a stat. I still have Novice so I agreed to meet him and migrate his stats. He was most grateful and he paid the going rate happily. But this customer was the exception and not the rule so I bid adieu to the profession sadly.
TaaniBronz
Bria