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Thread: Something must be done

Trobon18
Tue Jun 21, 2005 9:49 am
#27

no unfortionatly I was not saying that. I too would give up jedi if everyone wasn'ta jedi. What I was saying though is if you want a new harder system and you unlocked in the easy one you better be willing to go back and do it in the harder one
Krun1
Tue Jun 21, 2005 9:51 am
#28

Most casual players aren't mad about the number of Jedi. The game has been out long enough that its now to the point where a casual gamers can obtain it where it used to be reserved only for the 14 year old daily grinders. That and the fact that jedi never leave, they are sold on Ebay when the user has had his fill of the game. So your left with Ebay Jedi, and heavy grinders complaining about the number of jedi because they are no longer special and "l33t".


I've played this game coming up on 2 years and I am still not unlocked (Close). I simply dont have the attention span some grinders do but the point is I will get there and then there will be one more jedi that the no-lifers can complain about. It's a game, no more.



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Jacella
Tue Jun 21, 2005 9:53 am
#29






mikeymonkey wrote:
^OmG...I'll I'm saying is that they should change the system, to slow the flow of Jedi. Did you even read my post?

And no, they are not playing the same game as me. I played a game where you actually had to work for your Jedi. A game where Jedi meant something. They play a game where they toss grenades at random spawns for a couple of weeks and join the masses.




The problem is that everyone feels that they worked for it. Talk to a pre-pub9 jedi, talk to a post 9 Villager, talk to a post cu...they will all say the same thing. They earned it. How would you have felt that as you were appraoching jedihood, the devs said "ok, there are too many, now we have a years more grinding for you"? You would have felt slighted. The main problem is that they took away hologrinding. We now have jedi that have no clue about crafting, or how to give a dancer buff, or any of the other professions. If you needed to master 32 professions like some of the pre-9 jedi, then you would understand what I'm talking about. The Village was a bad idea. Hologrinding wasn't the best either, but at least it slowed people down. You have no idea what it's like to master a crafting profession, hoping that "this would be the one" and NOT recieve the message. Yes, there are too many jedi, but any solution that removes someone's jedi unfairly, or prevents them from achieving it is not acceptable. Everyone pays to play, everyone deserves the opportunity to create a jedi...once they have earned it.





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Dbizzle5
Tue Jun 21, 2005 9:53 am
#30

I don't know how SOE would do it. How would they tell thousands of ppl ok you can't get Jedi. They will lose alot of money. I think they can slow the amount of Jedi that are being shot out from the village. As the fs grind is to easy. It's also to easy to get glowy.I guess time will tell.



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Sundevil3982
Tue Jun 21, 2005 9:54 am
#31






mikeymonkey wrote:
I don't wish to eliminate the flow of Jedi. I wish simply to majorly cripple it. Every Tom and Harry can and will get Jedi. I will soon be bumping my proposition for a much more RP heavy and intuitive system. We absolutely cannot let the current flow of Jedi continue. There will be so many Jedi, it will clog the game and give it a heart attack.

I warned everyone. I told everyone. I was right. Sony never should have listened to those that whined about the old Jedi-gaining system. They would whine, they would leave, we would all move on, the game would stay alright and Jedi would stay at least half-way rare. But now there are so many Jedi, people are leaving in slews.

The thing that disappoints me most of all is that my friends and brother used to be able to say "my friend's/brother's a Jedi!" and they would get a "oh cool! really?" type of reaction. Now if they mentioned my Jedihood they would be greeted with scornful looks or "big deal" type of responses.

Sony, you have poisoned the profession that your most dedicated players worked so hard to get. You promised us we would be rare. You promised us you would make Jedi fun and interesting. For everything you say, the exact opposite happens. We are a weak, common-as-dirt profession, filled with Jedi that have gotten a free ride all the way through, from the complete and utter joke that is the new Jedi-gaining system to the endless AFK grinding of wookies, it's like watching a criminal get through his entire life with the same amount of happiness and total lack of punishment as a hard-working, upstanding man.






So when are u going to delete your jedi?



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Andurilh
Tue Jun 21, 2005 9:56 am
#32

Confusing dedicated with powergamer is always the norm.


Just because someone could buff and progress thru combat professions at the rate of one or two a week and 3rd party macro the crafting ones does not make one dedicated.


All that made for was a boring game and a ruined economy.



Better to just have it so random that one day you log on and you get a visit from a jedi...


Anaalin
Tue Jun 21, 2005 9:57 am
#33






Insanitywiz wrote:

I've had my Jedi since november of 03, and while it was nice for people to be able to point and oogle me because I was rare, the grinding professions system was NEVER difficult. You did not work harder then everyone else to get your Jedi, unless you have also done a Jedi in the new system you really do not know how difficult or long the process is. I've done it, and I would take the mastering professions way for ease every time.

Just because we got into the game earlier then others does not make us special. The only way to slow the Jedi population without killing the game entirely is to provide another route for people to play the "end game" of SWG, probably through the introduciton of other elite classes.



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iskareot
Tue Jun 21, 2005 10:00 am
#34






Trobon18 wrote:
no unfortionatly I was not saying that. I too would give up jedi if everyone wasn'ta jedi. What I was saying though is if you want a new harder system and you unlocked in the easy one you better be willing to go back and do it in the harder one






I guess , this works too though.


But this one by far man is much much much faster and easier I think. Time wise and credit cost there is no doubt about that.


I have seen guys go from the village in no time no real cost to Full template Jedi in 3 months.. thats crazy... it just is.


(I wonder what would happen if oh say the Criticle Fails still happend on sabers what people would do lol).... I made sooooo much credits on Pearls back in the day from that lol...



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Sundevil3982
Tue Jun 21, 2005 10:05 am
#35






iskareot wrote:





Trobon18 wrote:
no unfortionatly I was not saying that. I too would give up jedi if everyone wasn'ta jedi. What I was saying though is if you want a new harder system and you unlocked in the easy one you better be willing to go back and do it in the harder one






I guess , this works too though.


But this one by far man is much much much faster and easier I think. Time wise and credit cost there is no doubt about that.


I have seen guys go from the village in no time no real cost to Full template Jedi in 3 months.. thats crazy... it just is.


(I wonder what would happen if oh say the Criticle Fails still happend on sabers what people would do lol).... I made sooooo much credits on Pearls back in the day from that lol...






Umm...not quite possible. The village itself is at very least 15 weeks. Plus whatever time it takes to get FS, do your paddy trials and grind out your template.



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Kamujin
Tue Jun 21, 2005 10:47 am
#36






Andurilh wrote:

Confusing dedicated with powergamer is always the norm.


Just because someone could buff and progress thru combat professions at the rate of one or two a week and 3rd party macro the crafting ones does not make one dedicated.


All that made for was a boring game and a ruined economy.






Correct.



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mikeymonkey
Tue Jun 21, 2005 12:09 pm
#37

I don't wish to eliminate the flow of Jedi. I wish simply to majorly cripple it. Every Tom and Harry can and will get Jedi. I will soon be bumping my proposition for a much more RP heavy and intuitive system. We absolutely cannot let the current flow of Jedi continue. There will be so many Jedi, it will clog the game and give it a heart attack.

I warned everyone. I told everyone. I was right. Sony never should have listened to those that whined about the old Jedi-gaining system. They would whine, they would leave, we would all move on, the game would stay alright and Jedi would stay at least half-way rare. But now there are so many Jedi, people are leaving in slews.

The thing that disappoints me most of all is that my friends and brother used to be able to say "my friend's/brother's a Jedi!" and they would get a "oh cool! really?" type of reaction. Now if they mentioned my Jedihood they would be greeted with scornful looks or "big deal" type of responses.

Sony, you have poisoned the profession that your most dedicated players worked so hard to get. You promised us we would be rare. You promised us you would make Jedi fun and interesting. For everything you say, the exact opposite happens. We are a weak, common-as-dirt profession, filled with Jedi that have gotten a free ride all the way through, from the complete and utter joke that is the new Jedi-gaining system to the endless AFK grinding of wookies, it's like watching a criminal get through his entire life with the same amount of happiness and total lack of punishment as a hard-working, upstanding man.




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LairdJimmy
Tue Jun 21, 2005 12:12 pm
#38



lol...all I could think the whole time is "they wont let you post the name D!ck?!!"





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romanbeef
Tue Jun 21, 2005 12:17 pm
#39






mikeymonkey wrote:
I don't wish to eliminate the flow of Jedi. I wish simply to majorly cripple it. Every Tom and Harry can and will get Jedi. I will soon be bumping my proposition for a much more RP heavy and intuitive system. We absolutely cannot let the current flow of Jedi continue. There will be so many Jedi, it will clog the game and give it a heart attack.

I warned everyone. I told everyone. I was right. Sony never should have listened to those that whined about the old Jedi-gaining system. They would whine, they would leave, we would all move on, the game would stay alright and Jedi would stay at least half-way rare. But now there are so many Jedi, people are leaving in slews.

The thing that disappoints me most of all is that my friends and brother used to be able to say "my friend's/brother's a Jedi!" and they would get a "oh cool! really?" type of reaction. Now if they mentioned my Jedihood they would be greeted with scornful looks or "big deal" type of responses.

Sony, you have poisoned the profession that your most dedicated players worked so hard to get. You promised us we would be rare. You promised us you would make Jedi fun and interesting. For everything you say, the exact opposite happens. We are a weak, common-as-dirt profession, filled with Jedi that have gotten a free ride all the way through, from the complete and utter joke that is the new Jedi-gaining system to the endless AFK grinding of wookies, it's like watching a criminal get through his entire life with the same amount of happiness and total lack of punishment as a hard-working, upstanding man.







Am I to believe you to say, in essence, that those who become and are working to get jedi now are not dedicated players? I am too a 7/10/03 player.


This doesn't mean that because a player got a jedi during the CU, that he is not a dedicated player.


it sounds to me that this is one of those, "I'm a jedi before you and I don't want any more jedi, JUST ME" posts.


correct me please if I didn't get the jist of it.





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