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Thread: Give devs some love
ComCypher wrote:
Steppencat wrote:
TuskKiller wrote:
99.9% of the time people are bitching and moaning.
I'd like to take the time to thank the devs for some recent improvements I'm happy about:
NPC specials back
Shuttle Wait Reduction
Fixing mission bug where I wouldn't get paid
Fixing the bug where if I switched to a character on another server, I lost all my notes/etc on my friends list
and there are some others which excape me....
/thank
Too little too late. If they had implemented this stuff in 2003 I'd be singing a different tune, but now...sorry.
At this point SWG would have to cook me dinner, go to work for me, and give me the best BJ I've ever had to make me even consider coming back. And no friggin way am I going to buy the mess that JTL will be.
I'll re-evaluate when the ephemeral Combat Revamp is done. Sometime in 2007 or so.
I hate it when people don't even pay forthe subscription to the game and think that their opinions matter on the forums.
Com Cypher
There's so much stupidity and ignorance in that comment, not the least of which being that I'm still paying for SWG.
Let's just leave it at that though, eh, smart guy?
Krase wrote:
Hmmm, i see alot of whiners in here. I have an idea though. Why dont you (the whiners) design an everchanging Massive online roleplaying game? Let's see you try to roll out new content every 6 weeks with out crashing the game. Let's see you begin testing a new expansion pack while maintaining the game. How about that. Let's see you try to manage all the stuff that goes on in the game. I give the Devs some credit. Ive programmed in C++ and it is not easy. So unless you work and program for aMMORPG I suggest you **edit**. M'kay?
Shaan'ti Hokai (Kauri) 
Steppencat wrote:
ComCypher wrote:
Steppencat wrote:
Too little too late. If they had implemented this stuff in 2003 I'd be singing a different tune, but now...sorry.
At this point SWG would have to cook me dinner, go to work for me, and give me the best BJ I've ever had to make me even consider coming back. And no friggin way am I going to buy the mess that JTL will be.
I'll re-evaluate when the ephemeral Combat Revamp is done. Sometime in 2007 or so.
I hate it when people don't even pay forthe subscription to the game and think that their opinions matter on the forums.
Com Cypher
There's so much stupidity and ignorance in that comment, not the least of which being that I'm still paying for SWG.
Let's just leave it at that though, eh, smart guy?
I dunno, doesn't seem like stupidity and ignorance to me. your comment seems pretty clear there that you weren't playing anymore and that you wouldn't be coming back, much less buying the expansion. So, out of curiousity, if you need all those things to get you to consider coming back, why are you still playing?
I thought nearly the exact same thing as Com Cypher... why is this person even still posting on the forum if they hate the game so much they'll never play again? Granted, maybe the response wasn't exactly politic or tactful, but I don't think his interpretation of your comment in that post was mistaken based on the context of your original comments. maybe you just weren't clear enough in the first place.
Yeah it figures that some mama's boy from Gorath is one of the ones doing the whining. If you are so into another game, why is it you are still posting here, hmmm?and for the record, choad, not one single MMO has had everything working correctly within a year if they constantly put out patches. next time, think before you type. Hey, maybe they will teach you all about that when you go back to Jr high next week. We should all be so lucky.
Steppencat wrote:
Krase wrote:
Hmmm, i see alot of whiners in here. I have an idea though. Why dont you (the whiners) design an everchanging Massive online roleplaying game? Let's see you try to roll out new content every 6 weeks with out crashing the game. Let's see you begin testing a new expansion pack while maintaining the game. How about that. Let's see you try to manage all the stuff that goes on in the game. I give the Devs some credit. Ive programmed in C++ and it is not easy. So unless you work and program for aMMORPG I suggest you **edit**. M'kay?
Considering there areplenty of MMOsthat HAVE done it right (see my sig), and at the veryleast got it right a year after release, and that the devs have been feeding us lines ofBS from the start,I'm going to have to ask you to go back to the hole you crawled in from. M'kay?
TashunkaSapa wrote:
How about... until YOU pay for MY monthly subscription fee, you refrain from telling me what I can and cannot say?
Free speech, you have to love it. I'm already paying for two accounts, so no, i dont want to pay for yours. however, we can always take up a collection.
My $15 is worth just as much to the company as yours, Krase. I don't have to know how to program an MMORPG to decide if their efforts and priorities are acceptable - that's what I'm paying THEM to do.
Like i said earlier, they know what the problems are. Maybe there is a more pressing problem, I.E. maybe a problem with characters being deleted if a patch goes wrong, but if we let the minor XXX problem go unfixed for a little while longer we can fix the YYY problem that will destory the character database. I think some of the major problems they dont tell us about, out of fear of our reaction. and yes i agree, your money is just as good as mine, unless is canadian, then is is only 80% as good, but much more polite then my money.
Regardless, it's clear that knowing how to program an MMORPG is not a prerequisite to work on SWG, so why should it be requisite for us to be entitled to criticism?
C++ programming is not easy. I think the people in the offices know more about the issues then we do. Most, if not all, play the game regularly. Some in the line of work and testing, others for the enjoyment(I sometimes think these are the clowns that get all the good loot. hehe).
Like it or not, your blind acceptance of the problems in the game does not contribute to a solution. Go on telling the Devs that they're doing great, I'm sure that will go a long way to fixing everything that you tell them is OK.
I never said i blindly accept the problems. I like presenting reasonable solutions when ever i criticize though. The Devs are doing ok in my book. Not horrible, not great, ok. I would give them a 6 on a 1-10 scale. There is room for improvement and refinement. However, some of the stuff they have done is great, I.E. the racing tracks, the reduced waiting times, the new loot kits new wookiee armor. but some of the stuff is total BS, I.E. the CB revamp rollback, the Smuggler shaft of 04, the overkill by using SBDs in the corvette and DWB instead of high level NPCs that dont respawn instantly.
in conclusion,
/emote throws a coconut cream pie at everyone
Krase wrote:
I think some of the major problems they dont tell us about, out of fear of our reaction.
I react much more unfavorably to deception than I do to frank disclosure. It's insulting to our intelligence totreat us that way.
and yes i agree, your money is just as good as mine, unless is canadian, then is is only 80% as good, but much more polite then my money.
LOL, now that's a good one!
Most, if not all, play the game regularly.
You'd be surprised. There are many common issues that have required an explanation to the Devs because their response was "What do you mean?". I recall TH mentioning that a requirement that all Devs play for a certain amount of time was added (previous to that, most didn't), but still it's not a long time each week or month - not long enough to be familiar with the real problems.
There is room for improvement and refinement. However, some of the stuff they have done is great, I.E. the racing tracks, the reduced waiting times, the new loot kits new wookiee armor. but some of the stuff is total BS, I.E. the CB revamp rollback, the Smuggler shaft of 04, the overkill by using SBDs in the corvette and DWB instead of high level NPCs that dont respawn instantly.
The phrase that comes to mind is "other than that, Mrs. Lincoln... how did you like the play?"
Krase wrote:
Yeah it figures that some mama's boy from Gorath is one of the ones doing the whining. If you are so into another game, why is it you are still posting here, hmmm?and for the record, choad, not one single MMO has had everything working correctly within a year if they constantly put out patches. next time, think before you type. Hey, maybe they will teach you all about that when you go back to Jr high next week. We should all be so lucky.
Steppencat wrote:
Krase wrote:
Hmmm, i see alot of whiners in here. I have an idea though. Why dont you (the whiners) design an everchanging Massive online roleplaying game? Let's see you try to roll out new content every 6 weeks with out crashing the game. Let's see you begin testing a new expansion pack while maintaining the game. How about that. Let's see you try to manage all the stuff that goes on in the game. I give the Devs some credit. Ive programmed in C++ and it is not easy. So unless you work and program for aMMORPG I suggest you **edit**. M'kay?
Considering there areplenty of MMOsthat HAVE done it right (see my sig), and at the veryleast got it right a year after release, and that the devs have been feeding us lines ofBS from the start,I'm going to have to ask you to go back to the hole you crawled in from. M'kay?
Hey, good ad hominem attack that doesn't bring anything new or worthwhile to the conversation.
Just out of curiosity, how long did YOU think when you called me a choad?
No idea what the "mama's boy from Gorath" comment meant, but if insulting people you know nothing aboutand provoking makes you better able to deal with the whipping you no doubt got in school, then by all means, feel free.
If you want to read an intelligent post, I suggest checking out "a desperate plea from an elder". But I'm long past being constructive. They don't listen to it either way.
Oh, and why am I posting?
BECAUSE I CAN
Steppencat wrote:
Hey, good ad hominem attack that doesn't bring anything new or worthwhile to the conversation.
Just out of curiosity, how long did YOU think when you called me a choad?
No idea what the "mama's boy from Gorath" comment meant, but if insulting people you know nothing aboutand provoking makes you better able to deal with the whipping you no doubt got in school, then by all means, feel free.
If you want to read an intelligent post, I suggest checking out "a desperate plea from an elder". But I'm long past being constructive. They don't listen to it either way.
Oh, and why am I posting?
BECAUSE I CAN
Oh, here's the thread since the forum search doesn't work (because they can't even get forums right, naturally).
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=GCW&message.id=195960
This was back when I still thought there was hope.