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Thread: Mabari armor belts
Phenix1050 wrote:
Shirts and Bando's were changed, but they still required people to use clothing attachments after the conversion. A lot of Jedi have bought AA's for going into mabari belts, so even if they are re-classified as clothing, they're going to use CA's. I do think they should have converted them into clothing and kept the enhancements already on there, but in the end, this is fixing a bug. Jedi weren't meant to be able to use AA's in the first place, since they were never supposed to be able to wear anything classified as armor.
Thus, allowing them to keep the enhancements that they got because of a bug seems a little imbalancing for the future. Now, new Jedi and old Jedi have a balanced playing field, because neither new or old Jedi will be able to make use of the enhancements that were allowed to be used via a bugged piece of equipment.
Always easy to talk when you didn't dump 50 million credits on something (to almost everyone that is a fortune)...always easy when the "other" person got bonked over the head. This didn't happen to me, but boy, do I feel their pain.
You had to have thought (even for a minute) that they would eventually fix that, right? Right?
Phenix1050 wrote:
Shirts and Bando's were changed, but they still required people to use clothing attachments after the conversion. A lot of Jedi have bought AA's for going into mabari belts, so even if they are re-classified as clothing, they're going to use CA's. I do think they should have converted them into clothing and kept the enhancements already on there, but in the end, this is fixing a bug. Jedi weren't meant to be able to use AA's in the first place, since they were never supposed to be able to wear anything classified as armor.
Thus, allowing them to keep the enhancements that they got because of a bug seems a little imbalancing for the future. Now, new Jedi and old Jedi have a balanced playing field, because neither new or old Jedi will be able to make use of the enhancements that were allowed to be used via a bugged piece of equipment.
Your post doesn't make a lot of sense. You state that the shirts and bando's where changed to require the use of CA's, but you forget they used to require AA"s. You also that a lot of Jedi have purchased AA's, but if the belts are changed they will use CA's. We are asking for the change and don't care they will use CA's just like the shirts and Bandos. You then go onto say that converting the belts would be unbalancing for the game. How is converting these items unbalancing and the conversion of the other two not?
From reading all of these posts, it seems people don't want this done because it gives them some type of pleasurein seeing jedi get shafted and having to eat all the hard earned money or time they have spent on those items. If peopel truely believe that the belts should not be able to be worn, why are you not out crusading to have PSG's removed along with the shirts and bandos? I can understand not allowing us to wear armor belts that have stats, but mabari belts do not. They are just like any other clothing belt in the game.
KeeferKman wrote:
Always easy to talk when you didn't dump 50 million credits on something (to almost everyone that is a fortune)...always easy when the "other" person got bonked over the head. This didn't happen to me, but boy, do I feel their pain.
Agreed, I would be more sold on this change if SOE found someway to compensate people on that. However it could be (in their eyes) that people who took advantage of this were exploiting the bugged code for what determines armor and thus deserve no compensation because it was an exploit. Everybody knew that the belt was classified as armor, yes? Which is why it took AAs. Plenty of people also knew that it was considered armor if you equipped it with other armor, then took that armor off. But people still used it.
I'm playing devils advocate here, for the record.
It seems silly that people dumped so much into those things and now they're being told "too bad". But, on the other hand, everybody knew that it was technically armor, and they knew Jedi weren't supposed to be able to wear anything classified as armor (and therefore, unable to use AAs), yet they used the bug to wear them. SOE should have declared this a bug a long time ago and told people that they were going to change it, that would've at least made sense. But at this point, I think they have at least some justification in not simply converting these. People abused a bug (whether SOE said so or not, it seems clear that Jedi's wearing an item that's classified as armor is a bug) and they fixed it. This will make people unhappy, and they're justified in feeling that way.
So..um...both sides are right, I gues.
Boatsheets wrote:
I don't know about other Jedi out there but I would have thought twice the minute I took an ARMOR ATTACHMENT worth MILLIONS and stuck it on my Jedi.
You had to have thought (even for a minute) that they would eventually fix that, right? Right?
Honestly, why would you have? It's not like we have any clear directives from the production team on any of this stuff. The "FUN" they keep quoting is laughable. It carries over into all aspects of this game. Quite frankly, I think the fun factor would go up quite a bit more if we had a few more clear, concise direction from the developers.
I lost about 50 million credits on this mabari belt issue. I could really care less as the game will go on. What I care about is artificial changes to a loot system that keep Jedi from reaching their potential. What I care about is Jedi reaching full template in my guild and still having 300 DPS sabres at MLS.
Turn the premiums back on and stop coming up with work-arounds.
Fivo Asia
Ikyo wrote:
Your post doesn't make a lot of sense. To you.You state that the shirts and bando's where changed to require the use of CA's, but you forget they used to require AA"s.Uh...just because I didn't explicitly state it doesn't mean I forgot. I assumed people understood what I meant when I saidthatwhen they converted, they kept the existing enhancements. You also that a lot of Jedi have purchased AA's, but if the belts are changed they will use CA's. We are asking for the change and don't care they will use CA's just like the shirts and Bandos.I'm pretty sure the people who bought a 30 mil armor attachment but hadn't put it in a belt yet aregoing to be mad as well...which is who I was talking about there. You then go onto say that converting the belts would be unbalancing for the game. How is converting these items unbalancing and the conversion of the other two not? Gee whiz-- maybe it WAS imbalancing in SOEs eyes, since people before the conversion had access to both CAs and AAs on those items. Maybe because of that, they changed the way it was done afterwards?
*snip*I can understand not allowing us to wear armor belts that have stats, but mabari belts do not. They are just like any other clothing belt in the game. The difference is that clothing belts can't take AAs.
As I've said, I'm simply playing devils advocate. I understand the frustration, believe me. Ithink that there should've been somewarning or compensation. But fromSOEs end, they're removing a bug that allowed Jedi to use attachments that theynever should have been able to use in the first place. I have no desire to see Jedi suffer or "eat it" or whatever you accused me of. But I have the ability to see both sides here. and both sides have merit. In the end, this will ensure that people who used the bug aren't rewarded, but it also makes people who weren't aware it was a bug suffer due to lost credits. It's both a positive and a negative.
They were classed as armor before CU and it was obviously a bug after the CU went live.