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Thread: Friday Feature January 21st – Combat Upgrade New Faction Armor

Landorin
Fri Jan 21, 2005 7:08 pm
#222

Still, her point remains. I don't know about you, but if there was a dictatorship ruling an entire galaxy with their troopers and BHs everywhere I'd be highly interested in having my face concealed or hidden away in some way when openly confronting that dictatorship with all its powers and networks which can easily track me down and get me killed (and with no place to hide really). Otherwise I had no longer the (very useful and important) ability to have a double life; one time being an unnoticed citizen and one time being a rebel agent staying undetected by my "official" way of life. Yet I do like the open face idea too on the other hand (especially on the rebel pilot helmet).

Message Edited by Landorin on 01-22-2005 03:16 AM

Sundown6
Fri Jan 21, 2005 7:14 pm
#223






omadnay wrote:


Here's a simple rule to follow when designing for Star Wars.
Many things in Star Wars are old fashioned cliches... Black and White, Good Guys and Bad Guys.
The Western Bandit wears the black hat and the good guys' faces are not covered/hidden (unless they're in disguise of course).
You have to see the heroes faces... that is Star Wars canon.
It's all about classic approaches.
It's like the difference between the WWF of the 80's (Good Guys vs. Bad Guys)and the WWE today(Nobody is really a Good Guy).
Sorry, but Star Wars is based on the theme classic theme that good must overcome evil.




Wow, that's exactly it. That's what I was thinking but couldn't quite put into words. Rebels should have equipment that exposes their faces and humanity. The main reason that the armor doesn't look particularly Rebel is because the designers didn't follow the overarching principles that drove the original Star Wars designs-- you should always be able to see a good guy's face, even if it's say,covered by a glass shield. (And it almost seemsas if thecurrent artist haslost the arcaneknowledge of how to create transparent surfaces-- all the new helmets can't be seen through, even when parts of them ought to be.)


These sweeping aesthetic guidelines need to be followed in order for new designs to be believable, to maintain immersion, and to come across as feeling Rebel or Imperial in the vein of the movies.

SashaStargazer
Fri Jan 21, 2005 7:18 pm
#224

OK. Sooooo the design team INSISTS on giving Rebels armor that looks nothing like what rebels wore in the films. WHY? Personally I these designs are hideous. Glad the empire gets an expanded film feel. Rebels look like they continue to get the short end of the stick.

Don't get me wrong...new states will be cool. I hate , absolutly HATE the way the rebel armor looks. What is wrong with giving Rebels stuff that looks like outfits made in the films????? THAT is what the community has been asking for. And apprently we aren't getting it????

When I heard we where getting 2 new armors I figured we would get the Endor outfit and the rebel blockade runner outfit from ANH.

You have been asking us to hold on and hold on for new stuff and content that we have wanted since luanch.... and I have been playing since luanch. NOW when we get news of some of this requested content you give us this absoutly craptacular armor that looks like NOTHING out of the films.

I have been hanging in there for close to 2 years guys and gals.... and I am sad to say THIS NEWS dosne't really make me feel like you really listening to the community or make me stick around much longer... and that makes me sad. I figured you all cared about the long term players. I thought you cared for my 45 dollars a month ( 3 accounts at one point). I guess I was wrong.

I will say I DO LIKE the sytem you guys are going to put in to place. It's what it looks like that I have a dispointment with. I can't express how disapointed I was when I saw these pics of the rebel armor. UGH!!!

Message Edited by SashaStargazer on 01-21-2005 09:30 PM



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SashaStargazer
Fri Jan 21, 2005 7:19 pm
#225



Thunderheart wrote:
There is actually no precedent for Rebel Armor in the Canon and very very little in the EU. We did quite a bit of research and none of the EU rebel armor was anywhere near as cool as the Imperial armor so we worked with LucasArts to get the new armor approved.
This new Rebel Armor is canon now





Well it still looks rediculous..... You could of added armor resistance to clothes that rebels DID wear.........



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Landorin
Fri Jan 21, 2005 7:22 pm
#226



SashaStargazer wrote:
When I heard we where getting 2 new armors I figured we would get the Endor outfit and the rebel blockade runner outfit from ANH.




You should visit your local tailor and you'd be suprised that you can buy most of the clothes you're talking about. As said so often before, you're talking about clothes, not armor! I you say now "but these don't give me protection" then I'd say "yeah, how can some black vest resist laser bolts?"... sooner or later they will most likely add the rest of the mentioned outfits (because they do listen to what people want or why do we get scout trooper armor) to the tailor profession but this thread is about armor, not clothes.
XComCaptain
Fri Jan 21, 2005 7:23 pm
#227

Great googly moogly thats awsome!! Keep up the good work devs.



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Starson
Fri Jan 21, 2005 7:25 pm
#228

Wah wah wah, complain about no information, then complain about the information you get. This has not even been tested yet, and MAY not make it to live, my goodness do the people on the forums only know how to complain.


ThankxTh it looks good, and I know it will be better after testing. The sooner buffs are obsolete the better, they are a waste of time and money.



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OdiousEncounter
Fri Jan 21, 2005 7:27 pm
#229

Excellent! Have to say I'm jealous of the imperials, though. The rebel body armor is great, but I'm not too fon of the helms. I'm sure they'll grow on me, though. Better than the torpedo head at any rate! Good job.



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Landorin
Fri Jan 21, 2005 7:40 pm
#230

Tiggs or TH:

Will the appearance bug on belts be fixed with the new armors by any chance? Especially females seem to be wearing a life belt when wearing a belt (for example the stormtrooper belt) because they don't seem to fully adapt to the body form (there is quite a gap between the body and the belt).
GreenDemon
Fri Jan 21, 2005 7:44 pm
#231


As much as i like the new armors(although the Rebel Recon armor is still ugly as sin)...The Devs sure aint watchin the movies right. Don remeber who said it first but Rebel armor should be something like from the Battle on Hoth not robot looking things out of a Super Patriot comic book
SashaStargazer
Fri Jan 21, 2005 8:03 pm
#232


(because they do listen to what people want or why do we get scout trooper armor) to the tailor profession but this thread is about armor, not clothes.




Hence my stement they only half listened to us. Yes the empire got stuff that looks like its in the movies. Rebels look like Halo rejects. SOOOOOOO dispointed. AS a huge SW fan ( and that is the reason I have wasted 2 years of time playing THIS game) this stuff looks awful. Period. My opinion and I am entitled to it. Just like I am entitled to "tell" the team what I think of it.....



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RagNoRock5x
Fri Jan 21, 2005 8:03 pm
#233

Im pritty shur the rebel recon armor is whats in the game already.


Why have they not been complained about before?


2 new sets of armor, Imp Recon and Assault and Rebel Battle and Assault.



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nothing13
Fri Jan 21, 2005 8:04 pm
#234

Are any of the new Wookie weapons and armor form ROTS (EP3) goint to be implemented? I know this would ease the pain of not having new faction armor, and all the pics I have seen of the new wookie equipment is really nice looking stuff.
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