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Thread: Christmas Gift from SOE
amiller44 wrote:
Amen and Amen
aibo220 wrote:
theoden-flurry wrote:
what about the people who dont celebrate x-mass? why force it on them
What about the grand majority of people who DO celebrate Christmas for both the religious purpose and the tradition of bringing families together? Christians, Catholics, Jewish, Athiests... Most all celebrate Christmas.
The developers, along with the rest of this crumbling nation, are already whiting out Christmas by replacing it with "holiday" in an attempt to rid the world of Christ. It's enough you can't even name a vendor or house or item in SWG Christmas but you can Channukah or any other "holiday."
I don't remember a single mention of Jesus Christ in any Star Wars movie. 
What's up with the religious crusade? Happy Holidays is a great way to say to everyone, regardless of beliefs or religion, hey - enjoy this time of year, when we all get a little cheerier (well, most of us) and a little friendlier, and we are all reminded of the true value of family and love.
If it's all about Christ to you, that's fine. That's your call. When you deal with a diverse population, however, it's common courtesy to be mindful of other's beliefs. Not everyone is a Christian. If the Devs came out and just said "Merry Christmas, everyone!" then they'd alienate thefolks who play this game (i.e. their paying customers) who AREN'T Christians, who have every right NOT to be Christians, and who don't want Christianity thrust upon them while playing a Star Wars game.It'd also makethem feel like they're weird or different for not observing Christmas.
And, don't tell me you wouldn't be the slightest bit offended by a couple of vendors called:
"The Body of Christ Foods"
"The Blood of Christ Drinks"
Trust me, people will always find a way to offend. Keeping that word out of this game is not only based on Star Wars, it prevents a nightmare of policing immature and inconsiderate people. Then, folks like you might start screaming and hollering in the forums, "How can you allow people to do this in the name of my Lord and Savior?!?! Boycott SOE!"
And, I guarantee you that missionary types, who can never NOT be talking about Jesus and how we should join their religion, would make such wonderful vendors as:
"Believe in Christ and follow his teachings."
"Jesus saves - ask me how"
"Christ leads the way to salvation"
Nothing says Star Wars to me like having Jesus pushed on me.
So, ease up on the crusade. I see little reason for a campaign to bring Christinto SWG. He was never in Star Wars in the first place.
Message Edited by Warryyr on 12-21-2004 07:52 AM
MadDog36 wrote:
Check your e-mail people. TH, I kinda feel bad. You come out on the forums, say there isn't going to be a gift, and TADA!!!!!!!
TH from 12/18 - "Sorry, but there will be no "automatic" Christmas gift this year.
I do want to thank the events team for pulling all of the Life Day events together though."
MEANWHILE, I come home tonight and my e-mail account says SOE is giving 75k to each character per server.....
C'MON! A LITTLE BIT of communication would be nice!
THE 75K HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CHRISTMAS.
It's only for JTL people who get JTL - so that they can actually BUYa new SHIP.
Look are your server's economy. Could a brand new player EVER afford a new ship (like a Tier 1 and 2) AND pay for all their repairs easily? The Devs decided to make the newbie ships have a hyperdrive, and they gave this to JTL folks only to offset the new players who get SWG and JTL, and say "Great, now I can't do anything, i have no money, and I just want to fly around in space."
Everyone needs to settle down a bit. Look forward to your presents in REAL life, not some digital entity that you'll just stuff in a house anyways. I mean, really - with all the loot junk from JTL and all the other stuff that's soon to come with the Loot Revamp, you're gonna need all the inventory you can get, anyways. Because the Devs refuse to give us more inventory, and instead we use up all our lots for houses (especially me, as a crafter). 
The 75k has NOTHING to do with Christmas. It has EVERYTHING to do with new players getting JTL FOR Christmas, and not being able to repair their ships/buy new ships/function in our overinflated economies. Wouldn't THAT be a delightful Christmas present? A cool new game, looks great, but you can't even afford a CDEF pistol because you blew up in space too many times, while learning the ropes?
mauvros wrote:
The gift is lame, im sorry and I know it sounds greedy but its lame.
75k? Have they looked at the economy lately?
Aside from that, you must have JTL to claim this gift. How lame is that??? Is that supposed to promote sales for JTL?
"Buy our $50 game and well give you enough money for a CDEF pistol"
Lame, lacking in creativity, greedy, discriminating present.
They could cancel this game tomorrow and I wouldn’t lose a bit of sleep over it, and IM JEDI!!
75k isn't a Christmas gift!
And who cares - it's a free 75k.
IT'S FOR PEOPLE WHO GET JTL FOR CHRISTMAS, so they can survive in our overinflated economies for awhile, repair their ships, actually BUY a ship or two, etc.
Tell me where in that email it says "Merry Christmas from SOE, here's your 75k gift."
Mirkwoods wrote:
The more I play SWG and the more I read the forums, the more I think that there are a lot of people whom are very unhappy that are playing this game. They never seem to be happy with anything. I'm sorta glad that I'm not a DEV on this game, because it must be rough always reading the same things from disgruntled players.
I do believe that we have a right to complain with this game, especially since we are paying a monthly fee for it, but some of it is just ridiculous. Please, just try to give it a rest. Just try.
Sure, I'd like to receive a Christmas gift from SOE, but since the Star Wars Universe does not really have Christmas, I'd rather see something like a voucher for a free month of play. Something real.
For those of you whom do not celebrate Christmas, or do not think that you should even have to look at any Christmas things, I kinda agree with you, but the way the world is, you'll have to get over it, or you'll drive yourself mad.
Christmas is for kids, and retailers. Christ wasn't even born very close to Christmas, the tradition was started to make the Christian holiday more palatable to the pagans whom were being forced into Christianity by their Roman Emporer. At least into an acceptance of the religion. It's like Easter... when Christ rose from the dead... it is celebrated with things like bunnies, eggs, chickens and baby animals.... it was a fertility holiday that was melded with a Christian one. These things just make me laugh, and a little bit too hard sometimes. It really is funny, from a certain point of view.
I applaud you, well put - Happy Holidays 
And with that note, I'm done with all of this. Thanks for the sweet Matriarch/Patriarch paintings, Devs. And the Life Day robe - my wook's been wearing it with pride ever since. I wasn't in-game last year, so it was neat getting one of those robes, finally. And my Orb is a treasured gift from a friend gone to WoW - it's very symbolic of Life Day, and reminds me of those gone and who are missed.
I look forward to the New Year, and some serious work on all the professions' top issues, which has lingered for pretty much all of 2004. And, of course, the Combat Upgrade/GCW Revamp. You guys sure have your work cut out for you - rest while you can!
Happy Holidays, Devs!
zineotic wrote:
I got the 75k email too... Is this a joke? I mean come on, we make a rant thread and SOE's response is to bribe us with 75k? Alright, well considering all the Life Day paintings are going for like 500k and WAY up on the auctions, I may be able to pay for the sales tax since all I got was another stupid Orb.
Try harder SOE, really, please try harder.
You must be the kind of person who gets a present, unwraps it and says to the gift giver, "Gee, thanks for the present, but it isn't good enough for me. why don't you try harder next time?"
You know what most people would call that? Rude, inconsiderate, greedy, ungrateful and selfish.
You're lucky you get anything. Smile and say thank you.
4Bidden wrote:
I dont understand how people can just "expect" gifts... The development team have been hard at work this year to bring us a great game. To me, that is a gift in itself....
You whiners are just pathetic.
Coal for all of you.
..and SOE, Thanks for the credits, I needed a second swoop or I just may get that replacement chest plate. It was nice of you to let me decide what I wanted.
Warryyr wrote:
amiller44 wrote:Amen and Amen
aibo220 wrote:
theoden-flurry wrote:what about the people who dont celebrate x-mass? why force it on them
What about the grand majority of people who DO celebrate Christmas for both the religious purpose and the tradition of bringing families together? Christians, Catholics, Jewish, Athiests... Most all celebrate Christmas.
The developers, along with the rest of this crumbling nation, are already whiting out Christmas by replacing it with "holiday" in an attempt to rid the world of Christ. It's enough you can't even name a vendor or house or item in SWG Christmas but you can Channukah or any other "holiday."I don't remember a single mention of Jesus Christ in any Star Wars movie.
What's up with the religious crusade? Happy Holidays is a great way to say to everyone, regardless of beliefs or religion, hey - enjoy this time of year, when we all get a little cheerier (well, most of us) and a little friendlier, and we are all reminded of the true value of family and love.
If it's all about Christ to you, that's fine. That's your call. When you deal with a diverse population, however, it's common courtesy to be mindful of other's beliefs. Not everyone is a Christian. If the Devs came out and just said "Merry Christmas, everyone!" then they'd alienate the folks who play this game (i.e. their paying customers) who AREN'T Christians, who have every right NOT to be Christians, and who don't want Christianity thrust upon them while playing a Star Wars game. It'd also make them feel like they're weird or different for not observing Christmas.
And, don't tell me you wouldn't be the slightest bit offended by a couple of vendors called:
"The Body of Christ Foods"
"The Blood of Christ Drinks"
Trust me, people will always find a way to offend. Keeping that word out of this game is not only based on Star Wars, it prevents a nightmare of policing immature and inconsiderate people. Then, folks like you might start screaming and hollering in the forums, "How can you allow people to do this in the name of my Lord and Savior?!?! Boycott SOE!"
And, I guarantee you that missionary types, who can never NOT be talking about Jesus and how we should join their religion, would make such wonderful vendors as:
"Believe in Christ and follow his teachings."
"Jesus saves - ask me how"
"Christ leads the way to salvation"
Nothing says Star Wars to me like having Jesus pushed on me.
So, ease up on the crusade. I see little reason for a campaign to bring Christ into SWG. He was never in Star Wars in the first place.
Message Edited by Warryyr on 12-21-2004 07:52 AM
Ok this is getting out of control and i may get a lightening bolt for it, but to hell with it.
Can i have a McChrist hold the lettuce ROFL LOL
HOOOOOOOOOOOOOly cow this has gone off the deep end now. ROFLLOLROFOAENJFOPEASGNOIEGPSOI
Man the lot of you are seriously out of whack. ROFLOLOLOLOLOL
Message Edited by Reekoh on 12-21-2004 06:45 PM
Reekoh wrote:
You reckon if I buy JTL tomorrow, which it should have arrived by then, I will get the present?
Message Edited by Reekoh on 12-21-2004 06:45 PM
Yes... it's good through January 31st 2005
Right now you can get a free ten day trial of JTL from fileplanet or buy it for less then 10 bucks from amazon.com.
Warryyr wrote:
amiller44 wrote:
Amen and Amen
aibo220 wrote:
theoden-flurry wrote:
what about the people who dont celebrate x-mass? why force it on them
You are absolutely right. We should cater to the minority like we do with everthing else in this country because gosh, we don't want to hurt anyones feelings. You must have been sleeping in history calss when the fact that our country and it's principles were founded by christians was discussed.
What about the grand majority of people who DO celebrate Christmas for both the religious purpose and the tradition of bringing families together? Christians, Catholics, Jewish, Athiests... Most all celebrate Christmas.
The developers, along with the rest of this crumbling nation, are already whiting out Christmas by replacing it with "holiday" in an attempt to rid the world of Christ. It's enough you can't even name a vendor or house or item in SWG Christmas but you can Channukah or any other "holiday."
I don't remember a single mention of Jesus Christ in any Star Wars movie.
What's up with the religious crusade? Happy Holidays is a great way to say to everyone, regardless of beliefs or religion, hey - enjoy this time of year, when we all get a little cheerier (well, most of us) and a little friendlier, and we are all reminded of the true value of family and love.
If it's all about Christ to you, that's fine. That's your call. When you deal with a diverse population, however, it's common courtesy to be mindful of other's beliefs. Not everyone is a Christian. If the Devs came out and just said "Merry Christmas, everyone!" then they'd alienate thefolks who play this game (i.e. their paying customers) who AREN'T Christians, who have every right NOT to be Christians, and who don't want Christianity thrust upon them while playing a Star Wars game.It'd also makethem feel like they're weird or different for not observing Christmas.
And, don't tell me you wouldn't be the slightest bit offended by a couple of vendors called:
"The Body of Christ Foods"
"The Blood of Christ Drinks"
Trust me, people will always find a way to offend. Keeping that word out of this game is not only based on Star Wars, it prevents a nightmare of policing immature and inconsiderate people. Then, folks like you might start screaming and hollering in the forums, "How can you allow people to do this in the name of my Lord and Savior?!?! Boycott SOE!"
And, I guarantee you that missionary types, who can never NOT be talking about Jesus and how we should join their religion, would make such wonderful vendors as:
"Believe in Christ and follow his teachings."
"Jesus saves - ask me how"
"Christ leads the way to salvation"
Nothing says Star Wars to me like having Jesus pushed on me.
So, ease up on the crusade. I see little reason for a campaign to bring Christinto SWG. He was never in Star Wars in the first place.
Message Edited by Warryyr on 12-21-2004 07:52 AM