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Thread: OMG! CU MADE FS IMPOSSIBLE!

Siapo
Sat May 07, 2005 1:19 am
#66

Cry More Noobs!! CU isnt the best thing but it also isnt the worst thing. Heres a clue /cancel. Remember that little message on the box when you first bought SWG Content may change? So go play WOW or better yet Sims Online.



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Jigga_Hov
Sat May 07, 2005 4:26 am
#67


OMG!!!!


I've never heard such whingng and crying in all my life,


I have already unlocked and ground a jedi and doing it again out of boredom. The first time i unlocked 25 prof's (see u n00bz try that way) and had to grind 1 FS branch maxxing out on Pistol and carbine exp per day for 10 days then kill mellichae, i've killed him 9 times now all Pre-CU and i didnt cry once.


If all u Naders cant grind this way the the answer is simple /cancelsubscription and go and play solitare if u wanna solo everything





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Illok
Sat May 07, 2005 8:35 am
#68






Siapo wrote:
Cry More Noobs!! CU isnt the best thing but it also isnt the worst thing. Heres a clue /cancel. Remember that little message on the box when you first bought SWG Content may change? So go play WOW or better yet Sims Online.





I'd have to admit, you have a point... if I was a complete idiot. Can you remember the last time you bought a game so that you could eventually want to stop playing it? If I'm remembering correctly, when purchasing this game, I wasn't thinking, "Hey, you know what would be great? If I spent fifty dollars on this game so that the devs can make it suck and I can cancel it, hence wasting my fifty I spent in the first place, and then including the 15 extra dollars per month. Wow! What a great idea!" Yeah, content may change, but this is an entirely different game now. It changed when holos were first removed. It changed when they added the village. They changed the GCW and pvp. What happened this time is disgusting. I didn't put a year and a half into a game, learning it the best I could so that I could have to learn everything all over again, and in a worse game to boot. I, and the rest of the people who agree, shouldn't have to /cancel (noob?). So the next time you make a point, make it a good one. There's a clue.
Cebre_Opasloa
Sat May 07, 2005 7:30 pm
#69

They did promise you could play as a loner, but nowhere did they promise that you could solo everything in the game or even come close to that.


The two are not equivalent. You can play as a loner effectively if you don't try to bite off more than you can chew.


You COULD drop your combat level to something where your training saber would allow you to build xp effectively. It appears you simply refuse to. SOE is not to blame in that case if you can't make good xp.


Why should they change the conversion rates? The fact they are as high as they are discourages people from going for Jedi unless they are really committed to the path. This is a good thing. It's not like most people don't complain about the number of Jedi already. Reducing the conversion rates is only going to make this game more "Jedi Wars" than it already is.


The casual gamer can get to the same place as the powergamer, but it will definitely take more time. That only makes sense, and the Devs have repeatedly stated that is their intent. You get out what you put in.






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SimianSavior
Sun May 08, 2005 2:26 am
#70




I was going to stop replying, but I wanted to make sure I singled out this idea before I stop, because I don'twant it spreading like a plague.







Cebre_Opasloa wrote:

You COULD drop your combat level to something where your training saber would allow you to build xp effectively. It appears you simply refuse to. SOE is not to blame in that case if you can't make good xp.


Why should they change the conversion rates? The fact they are as high as they are discourages people from going for Jedi unless they are really committed to the path. This is a good thing. It's not like most people don't complain about the number of Jedi already. Reducing the conversion rates is only going to make this game more "Jedi Wars" than it already is.







Oh wow, why the hell didn't I think of that? Oh yeah, cause it's f'in stupid. I'll just drop all my skills the moment I get access to my training saber so that when I get on the terminals I can be a complete pushover. Yeah, that's what I want to do, make myself a target and then tie my hands behind my back so that I can be killed by a blind 1 legged dog with no teeth. Come on, do you honestly believe that someone who has spent over a year and a half working through this system should have to give up every single skill they have as soon asthey gain access to Jedi just so they can make more than 1 experience fighting things that were meant to be fought at that point? That's like saying that a MBH has to drop all his skills so that he has nothing but novice marksman before he can hunt Jedi. It's the worst idea ever. The way the system was intended to work was for you to surrender your skills as you advanceyour Jedi, not surrender them just so you can gain experience. The devs screwed up, the quicker you admit it the better it will be for everyone in the game. They can fix the problem very quickly, but as long as there are people defending their mistake they won't even bother to look at it. This isn't about me being inflexible, it's about the devs mistake needing to be fixed. You guys are the inflexible ones. Unable to admit that the devs screwed up and that the problem needs to be solved. SOE is to blame for the mistake, and SOE needs to rectify it.


As for the conversion rates... You don't think that the 3 weeks between village phases discourages people from becoming Jedi? How about the millions of experience that is required to advance your Jedi to Knight, isn't that discouraging? Do they really need to make it so that the experience you get as a casual gamer makes it impossible for you to attain Jedi? I distinctly remember them saying that casual gamers could get the character, but at the rate a casual gamer gains experience, they'd have to play the game for more than 2 and a half years. That's just rediculous. Especially since they said it would takesix months toa year to unlock the FS slot for casual gamers. The conversion rates don't discourage power gamers, because power gamers can make billions of experience a week. They have no life, that's why they are power gamers. They can spend 18 hours a day 7 days a week online sitting at their computer grinding experience. Those who have a life and can't sit in front of a computer screen playing a GAME for over 120 hours a week are the ones who are punished by the conversion rates. The game mechanic that's supposed to slow down progress is the village cycles and the 3 day waiting period on the entrance and exit quests. The actual experience gathering only punishes the casual gamers and it should be reduced to make it more fair for those who can't spend insanely stupid amounts of time on the game.

"We know that players are going to master the Jedi system eventually, and that's probably fine as the servers mature." - Haden, IGN Interview

They expected lots of Jedi as the servers matured, a few more isn't going to make a difference one way or another now. The profession should not just be for the powergamer no-lifers. The profession should beavailable to those who would truly roleplay it, the casual gamers who bought this game to PLAY A GAME and not to DO A JOB.

Message Edited by SimianSavior on 05-08-2005 05:41 AM



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Through power I achieve victory
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Diophantine
Mon May 09, 2005 7:45 am
#71

wow lots of different things goin on here...but i just wanted to update and say that yall are now looking at a brand new Jedi Padawan...so far i havent gotten on the terms and i am currently x2x1 LS and novice everythign else...but yea lets hope that all yall other FS ppl the best of luck and may the force be with you



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Ewrec
Mon May 09, 2005 8:35 am
#72

OMG ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!!



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Ewrec
Mon May 09, 2005 8:36 am
#73

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?!?!?!? FS GRIND IS A 1000 TIMES EASIER I KNOW PPL WHO HAVE GOTTEN MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF FS XP IN A DAY....JUST GET IN A FRIEKEN HUNTING GROUP AND STOP BIZNATCHING!!!!



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SimianSavior
Mon May 09, 2005 5:42 pm
#74







Ewrec wrote:
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?!?!?!? FS GRIND IS A 1000 TIMES EASIER I KNOW PPL WHO HAVE GOTTEN MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF FS XP IN A DAY....JUST GET IN A FRIEKEN HUNTING GROUP AND STOP BIZNATCHING!!!!





Seriously, learn to read (and write for that matter). Casual gamers cannot get millions and millions of FS exp in a day. We don't have 18 hours a day to spend grinding.



Peace is a lie, there is only passion
Through passion I gain strength
Through strength I gain power
Through power I achieve victory
Through victory my chains are broken
The force shall free me.


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Section 1 XO

zTiLer
Mon May 09, 2005 6:24 pm
#75

its kinda faster if you ask me



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Leanardo
Mon May 09, 2005 7:38 pm
#76

yall must not know how to do it. I go to dantooine and geta group of about 6-8. Then we shuttle to yavin and get magwax missions. Its double xp week and i can capp tkm/pike in under 2 hours. I rush over to the village and dump that whichwas 320k until tonight. (160k now) and rinse and repeat. I didthis like 1 time every night last week and it wasnt a pain in the ass like you would think. The only boring part the whole night was the 6k trip to village and 6k back. I have grinded over 2 trees in maby 12 hours of grinding. Yeah thats alot of grinding for 2 .5 trees but im enjoying it. I would rather grind 8 trees this way than the gd nade way. I mean you sit at a computer and do not talk to anyone for 3 hours at a time then you getmroe nades if needed and a buff then rinse repeat for however many buffs you hae in you. That was the worst. I grinded 3 trees like that and was like OMG. Another thing. 12 hours to get 1/3 way to jedi? Thats nothing in this game. Kotor takes about 10. After dble xp itll take a bit more time to grind but jsut have fun. Thisgame isnt about hwo fast you can grind jedi. Do it as an alterative for about 3 months or something. Then youll have close or over 1/2 of it done. Then you can pick it up and knock it out in a month. I really wish i woulda just chilled and gotten jedi and now i have time to make up for that. 5.5 trees grinding 3 unlcoked...i have some waiting.



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Diophantine
Tue May 10, 2005 6:00 am
#77

lets just say im really glad that i am done with the FS grind and the padawan trials...but now the real grind begins...this could take a while



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droidekasnightmare
Tue May 10, 2005 6:25 am
#78

Decided to throw my 2 cents in here. I consider myself a casual gamer. I got glowy on my char before the CU. Unlocked my first branch after the CU (Luck, HS). I have now finished my grinding for my 5 _remaining_ branches. 1 HS, 1 CP, 3 ER. (granted, I'm on chimaera and benefitted from the x4 xp gain from hunting, however I didn't play every day so it evens out to about the x2 all the other servers got in that perspective) Feels kinda nice tbh. Frankly, I find it much easier to grind nowadays and I like hunting in groups, makes it less boring, also <3 bols.

As for lvl 80's characters not being able to solo stuff..? *snicker* If I'm tactical about it I can take out lvl 81-83 SMC's with my pikes/swords template.





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