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Thread: What is to Become of FS?

JaxMeridian
Sat Jul 30, 2005 3:20 am
#40

Removing Jedi = Massive account cancelling


Massive XP requirements = Massive account cancelling


Long time grinds = Massive account cancelling


Making it harder = Massive account cancelling


So how to solve the problem? Put how you become, (BECOME!!!) Jedi back the way it was. A mystery. Tell NO ONE. Not even the CSR's. Give no hints, give no help. It's already too late for the ones that have FS. Unless you want 100's or 1000's of accounts cancelled, forget nerfing them. Make Jedi and BH's STRONG and about equal in combat. REMOVE the 3 wk wait at the village and let the ones that have FS now hurry up and get Jedi and get it over with. They'll burn out soon enough. Yes, you will have a massive influx of Jedi for a while, but bite the damb Bullet. Eventually, the population will fall off due to attrition and people cancelling their accounts at the normal rate. The draw is Jedi, but playing the game over a normal toon lifetime is the best way to get it. Link FS and the other ways to train Jedi to the Moral issues that would make a person a real Jedi in the Start Wars Universe. That way, you chet people, you never make Jedi. You kill innocents, never get it. Instead of giving secrets of how to get it, give light or dark Force Points in an undisclosed amount, over an undisclosed period of time, for doing undisclosed feats, quests, and acts of goodness or charity.


The current Jedi, FS, and Padawan population is a lost cause, and trying to slow them down or weed them out will only result in lost revenue. Do the same for the FRS. Make it a Mystery. Not killing other Jedi, but doing quests, acts of goodness and charity, heroic acts, fighting on your side of the GCW, etc. Tell no one. Tie it to actions and deeds and quests.


Problem solved.




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rdpmackie
Sat Jul 30, 2005 4:23 am
#41


Afim wrote:
Well, the combat XP will be at 30:1 in a little while.DIV>

Message Edited by Afim on 07-28-200512:04 AM





who says that? didn't see any mention of that on the TS patch notes. Where are you getting your information from?



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SWEzekiel
Sat Jul 30, 2005 5:16 am
#42






Emanon74 wrote:
It does need something to slow it down a bit. The phases on the village do help. This is a MMORPG and shouldn't be beat overnight.

Message Edited by Emanon74 on 07-28-2005 02:51 AM




FS isn't "beating" this game. And be happy to know the combat ratio is now 30:1



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Afim
Sat Jul 30, 2005 1:38 pm
#43






rdpmackie wrote:




Afim wrote:

Well, the combat XP will be at 30:1 in a little while.DIV>

Message Edited by Afim on 07-28-200512:04 AM







who says that? didn't see any mention of that on the TS patch notes. Where are you getting your information from?




If you look on the top of the FS board that has the posts that you cannot bring down it says TC Conversation Rates Change by Baciacca, and usually what happens in TC will eventually happen on all the servers.
XBranceX
Sat Jul 30, 2005 4:17 pm
#44






Jakber wrote:
. I just don't like rules being changed mid-game.





Then you should take up Dodgeball or something. If you're playing a MMO, you should expect change.






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NoStyleGuy
Sat Jul 30, 2005 5:57 pm
#45

bring back permadeath but with new rules. not 3 Deaths, not 3 BH deaths (grifeing could kill jedi way too fast) but make a set amount of Visabilty - breach the threshold and *poof* "you've exposed urself to the Emperor and now he has purged you" Let the Visability be a Seeable bar so jedi could know they were getting too cloes. Then they'd have to lay low for weeks (maybe months?) for it to go away.

Way to get jedi should just be changed period. i am in the middle of my FS grind, and would hate to have it happen, but i realize there is just too much of a "steady stream" of jedi pooring in. Im not sure what the method would be, but just CHANGE it 100%. If NOBODY knows how to be a jedi, nobody can write an FAQ about it, and start the "steady stream". Once we're back to a "steady stream" of new initates, change it again. Its mean, its cruel, it will wash out the Whiners who think jedi should be an "i win" button, and reward the ppl who are really dedicated to becoming a jedi.

Message Edited by NoStyleGuy on 07-30-2005 08:58 PM



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JaxMeridian
Sat Jul 30, 2005 8:04 pm
#46

Everitt, how they gonna tell how to do it if they don't know they done it till it's over with? Without the /Check ability ( I said no hints, remember), they can't check their progress. They can't mark a milestone, can't guess when they're close, and thus can't tell a dmab soul. ABSOLUTELY SECRET would mean ABSOLUTELY SECRET.
No one who gets Jedi after that would know anything about getting Jedi, even after they make Knight. When aksed, all they can say is " do good deeds, help the defenceless, yada yada yda". Same thing for Dark Jedi, "Be the best Imperial you can, serve the Emperor, etc."



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SiliconBandit
Sat Jul 30, 2005 9:35 pm
#47


Just an odd thought, but what about using different means to become jedi?


Sort of mashing the old hologrinding technique, the newer "badge" system and the other various suggestions in thread and then have the server randomly dictate a "path" for each character? Then remove the /check system, sit back and let the players roll on.


For BH vs Jedi have it so that whicever dies suffers massive damage. We're talking having maybe 100 to 200 hitpoints that take forever to return and cannot be healed by the usual means (or perhaps adding a quest to heal the wounds). Maybe making that all across the HAM bar (Force Bar included).


This would simulate dying and "being brought back" rather nicely as all of a sudden losing a fight means more than a quick trip on the "Clone Center Express". And then to deal with the missions for Jedi, simply make it that once a mission is taken, it disappears until one or the other dies. With the new "mission degrade" timer, that would certainly spice things up for a Jedi and BH. And even ease back on the amount of groups hunting Jedi.



Granted it might be a bit tough to see all the nuances in such a system, but I think randomizing the "path to becoming a jedi" would work rather well. I think it would add a great deal of variety in how people become a jedi and certainly would generate alot of in-game interaction as people compare notes and wonder.


After all, if every character is supposed to be unique? Why are most of us playing carbon-copy characters in how we do things?




**adds his two cents to the pile**



haljor
Sun Jul 31, 2005 1:43 am
#48

The one odd thing i'm noticing that is wrong with this game is that as i lvl up i get more exp per kill. Which should happen but it should be by small amounts . My combat exp went from 10 at the start to now over 300 per kill. They need to make it where exp goes up slowly and exp needed rises greater . I.e elite lvl 1 box needs 100k pistol exp however u only get 100 a kill not 2000 like i'm getting . If everquest 2 was like this game everyone would have maxed out in a few weeks
Skifi_Widal
Sun Jul 31, 2005 4:21 am
#49






NiobeAmnas wrote:
The only way to control the jedi population without affecting those who just want some FS to enhance their skills is to change the padawan trials.




QFE!


Also, though many people will hate me for saying it, the best way to control the jedi population is Order 66 or whatever it was called in RotS (ep3). If your Jedi gets visibility, whether "Good" jedi or "Bad" you get assaulted by a platoon lvl84 storm troopers or bounty hunters or Darth Vader himself. If you die... back to square one, all skills lost, back to 0 Jedi xp. Extreme? Tell it to the Emperor.


Likewise, if you are a BH and you fail your mission or drop it, you become a mark on the BH terminals.




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JaxMeridian
Sun Jul 31, 2005 4:33 am
#50

And watch 1000's of accounts vanish, and millions of dollars go ker-flush !!


Brilliant.





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Skifi_Widal
Sun Jul 31, 2005 4:39 am
#51






JaxMeridian wrote:

And watch 1000's of accounts vanish, and millions of dollars go ker-flush !!


Brilliant.







Did'nt say it was a brilliant Marketing plan.It isa brilliant "Canon Nazi" plan.




I see you have constructed your own Mineral Scanner.
Impressive. Most impressive.


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SikrouDeco
Sun Jul 31, 2005 11:49 am
#52

Jedi's are the stars of the movies, if things keep going as they currently are they will be gone and the game will be a generic rpg. Don't like Jedi go play wow or guildwars. LOL Personally most I talk to will leave as soon as LOTR comes out so no big. Beta starts in 2006!

Message Edited by SikrouDeco on 07-31-2005 11:51 AM







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