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Thread: Time to Nerf 50K HAM Thugs?

Mojomaster2704
Wed Feb 16, 2005 9:07 am
#27



Xarkon wrote:
Wah! F_cking wah! f_cking wah! f_cking wah! f_cking WAH! Dude, this is a massive M-U-L-T-I-P-L-A-Y-E-R online roleplaying game. Get a group. Include a healer. Have some backup support.

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Actually, scratch all that. Keep playing the way you do. Don't pick up any cooperative skill in this game. I've been thinking about playing a Bounty Hunter...




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Belasarius
Wed Feb 16, 2005 9:09 am
#28



Xarkon wrote:
Wah! F_cking wah! f_cking wah! f_cking wah! f_cking WAH! Dude, this is a massive M-U-L-T-I-P-L-A-Y-E-R online roleplaying game. Get a group. Include a healer. Have some backup support.

....

Actually, scratch all that. Keep playing the way you do. Don't pick up any cooperative skill in this game. I've been thinking about playing a Bounty Hunter...





ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!



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gera
Wed Feb 16, 2005 4:16 pm
#29

Thugs are good, thugs are fine


Phase 4 is the "most joyful player association event" ever in this game's history.

I'm planning to go there every phase 4 to enjoy it again, grouping with others (even if I dont kill thugs) and such.






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Shikkari
Wed Feb 16, 2005 4:24 pm
#30



Jadza wrote:
The Sith Shadow NPCs that attack the village during phase 4 and are guarding the base during phase 3 are entirely too powerful. With full buffs a Pirate managed to incap me in one shot and then killed me barely 60 seconds into the village. The 50K HAM thugs take forever to kill even with a group of people. There simply arent enough players doing the village quests anymore to justify contiuning use of the overpowered NPCs. I suggest it is time to lower their difficulty level now.



Ya ! ! And while they are at it, why don't they nerf the corvette so I can solo my Master Pilot Mission!!!

/sarcasm off




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wookie-mart
Wed Feb 16, 2005 4:37 pm
#31


I have to agree with most ppl here when I say that it isn't THAT difficult, that the thugs require a nerfing. This phase4 was my first one and my FS char is a transdoshan (can't wear gloves/boots), i ain't no melee stacker (fencer1010 is about it), but I am Master Rifleman if that means anything.


If you're dieing really fast in the village during this phase, you are either (or combo of) not buffed, not have at least one master elite prof or youhave broken armor.Mind you, you could also be taking on too many at a time, or you just ain't using those huts for shelter. I suppose you need a large group of ppl to divert some of the action otherwise, MASSIVE gangrape occurs (maybe this IS what's happening to you)...


I recommend just getting a bunch of ppl together to go at once, or (like whenever I show up at the village) form/join a group with everyone at the village when you get there. That way the docs doing their phase4 mission can find and heal you.


I completely agree that the 'peace' function needs to be fixed when you're hiding in a hut and the sith are far away. Nuthin worse than running into a hut, staring at a wall and seeing 10 (yes i counted) sith ham bars floating in front of you. You can never get around to converting xp when you're stuck waiting out/killin sith just so you can talk to paemos.

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Shikkari
Wed Feb 16, 2005 4:41 pm
#32



Shikkari wrote:


Jadza wrote:
The Sith Shadow NPCs that attack the village during phase 4 and are guarding the base during phase 3 are entirely too powerful. With full buffs a Pirate managed to incap me in one shot and then killed me barely 60 seconds into the village. The 50K HAM thugs take forever to kill even with a group of people. There simply arent enough players doing the village quests anymore to justify contiuning use of the overpowered NPCs. I suggest it is time to lower their difficulty level now.



Ya ! ! And while they are at it, why don't they nerf the corvette so I can solo my Master Pilot Mission!!!

/sarcasm off


Well now that I think of it, it is possible to solo the corvette master pilot mission..hehe oh well I guess that supports the idea no nerf is neccessary




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Durinthiam
Wed Feb 16, 2005 5:33 pm
#33

I solo thugs with my Noavik template using my LVA they are panzies all you have to do is intimidate and you're sorted, takes me a couple of minutes (less than an elder thats for sure)

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Xarkon
Wed Feb 16, 2005 5:38 pm
#34



gera wrote:
Thugs are good, thugs are fine
Phase 4 is the "most joyful player association event" ever in this game's history.
I'm planning to go there every phase 4 to enjoy it again, grouping with others (even if I dont kill thugs) and such.





Amen to that. Phase 4 was my first FS phase and I went there before I even had novice in ANY elite profession. It was the greatest time I ever had in this game! I'm now about 1/2 pistoleer and I still have a great time in phase 4! I even run around unbuffed a lot of the time. I finished my phase 4 quest in about 2-3 spawns, but plan on being in Aurillia for 90% of the phase, even though I maybe barely get 2K - 5K battle experience each spawn. Its just fun to fight those Sith down when you're in those huge player groups.
Hatai
Wed Feb 16, 2005 5:50 pm
#35

I'm not the kind to brag or anything, but seriously, thugs are easy. All you have to do is learn how to play your class. If you are ranged, you shouldnt have too much of a problem because of ranged mitigation and such, but if you are melee, force the thug to fight you with a melee weapon. Stick some bleeds, intimidate, and CoB yourself, and just have at it to one of his stat pools. Dont use random targeting crap, because you turn him into nearly a 150k beast instead of a 50k. Its just about concentration and remembering to keep intimidate and center up. I'm a master swordsman, with a screwed up template due to learning other skills, I am not speedcapped, and have absolutely no stacked defenses, and I take 2 at a time, just is a lil more annoying to make sure they are both intimidated ^_~ (i'm not master brawler either)
UbifaA
Wed Feb 16, 2005 6:41 pm
#36

i just sit in a lonely corner and spam Strafe Shot 2 and hope for the best....19 pirates to go and i unlock
Killer7000
Wed Feb 16, 2005 7:45 pm
#37






Namen_Xenomi wrote:

always crying nerf. OHHH I want my jedi to be EASY to get, I hate hard things. Nerf them and hand me my free force sensitive mods please. ugh....





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TheGreatFreyr
Wed Feb 16, 2005 7:54 pm
#38






Durinthiam wrote:
I solo thugs with my Noavik template using my LVA they are panzies all you have to do is intimidate and you're sorted, takes me a couple of minutes (less than an elder thats for sure)

Message Edited by Durinthiam on 02-17-2005 12:34 AM






exactly, i'm pikes/commando atm with a bit of medic, i can jus intimidate about 3 of em and take em down 1 by one spammin leg hit 3, takes about 2mins per. the thugs dont need to be nerfed at all, they're perfect as is i enjoyed the swarms of them at the village today as i completed my quest, made it more difficult to do the quest. and to me harder is better


Edit: What does the person who posted this whole thread have to say about all this? he/she hasn't posted anything since they did the thread....

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Symbolite
Wed Feb 16, 2005 10:19 pm
#39






Cornflake2gs wrote:





Namen_Xenomi wrote:

always crying nerf. OHHH I want my jedi to be EASY to get, I hate hard things. Nerf them and hand me my free force sensitive mods please. ugh....






If your getting attacked by 5 50K HAM thugs with 65%+ resist to everything you got, who happen to be shooting you for 100-300 dmg each shot, then its hard to handle. Whoever said they are tanking them solo is lying straight out their a$$hole. It takes groups to take these down. I can solo one...maybe two..but thats if nothing else is on me, which rarely happens since most people get killed right off the bat.


Dont tell me how to play the game either. 85%+ armor with a cob macro and full buffs with Pikatta Pie and a stacker template should be able to hold his own to some extent. But this is rediculous. My first trip to the village, I couldnt even talk to the people because I constantly had 5 thugs on me. Thank god I realized I could go into the tents and not get attacked.






My only combat profession in Master Fencer, i can fight 2 thugs at a time easy. If your a melee fighter and the thugs are shooting at you your pretty screwed i can tell you that. However if you charge at the thug and start hitting him he's forced to switch to melee where then you should be able to tank him for the next 5 mins and get the kill. Always use intimidate. If you have 2 on you, try to get them both intimidated and even warcry the one your not currently attacking if possible. All i need is a good set of armor, buffs, 2 brandya nd 2 ahrisa and im good.
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