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Thread: Petition : Convert Starship Pilot XP in FS xp

Mafuw
Mon Jan 17, 2005 1:46 am
#27






Cartouche wrote:





Not having Starship XP and Prestige Points convert is absolutely Ridiculus. But 50:1 is quite a bit high, especially since it is not as easy to get as ground xp's.







Getting prestige is much easier than getting ground xp, as explained in my posts above.








Wrong... You said that in gorup you could have 250k in 15 minutes... So that's 1 million in 1 hour... Same than I said So considering you got combat xp with weapon xp, it's almost twice slower


And even if you could match the sameFS xp rate in a big and well trained group, no way ratio should change, it would encourage teamwork and not make FS xp faster, only more fun


Edit : I still think we should start with a 50:1 ratio, if it happens to be really too slow, it can always be raised, if it's too high at the beginning it would make many people moan

Message Edited by Mafuw on 01-16-2005 12:48 PM



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Mafuw
Mon Jan 17, 2005 10:49 pm
#28

Anyone else can tell us the rate they can get prestige xp at master level ? And say if it's in group or solo

I'm still on the way to master, so can't test it by myself



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Mafuw
Tue Jan 18, 2005 11:27 am
#29

61 million prestige is really good, yeah...

But how much time did it take him to get that ? We're trying to see how much prestige xp can can get in 1 hour... If he's 8 hours a day in space, no wonder why he has 61 mill prestige... If there was an infinite cap on all other xp, many old players would have had enough xp to fill the 6 required branches

But you point out that we need a lowered cap too... I guess 7.5 million is the min we can have, because it's the xp required for master pilot (even if the xp is not really needed in fact)...



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Gellay
Tue Jan 18, 2005 1:29 pm
#30

I totaly agree !!!
/*sign*

- In SW-Stories most of the Jedis have been famous as good pilots too.

- Not to need any SkillPoints for Master-Pilot is an argument that doesn't count, this is a game, so it's about gaming, not about paying

- So if someone likes flying, let him/her fly around and do FS-XP that way

- To grind FS-XP with base grounded professions is really kinda boring. I do it myself all the time, and to be honest, it's not far from AFK-Dancing or AFK-Sampling. It's nothing more then finding a big Solo-Group (although you get no money, but who cares), get big missions with many mobs in the lair and start your Spam-Specials-Macro (or grenades). Drive, SpamSpecials, Drive, SpamSpecials, Drive, SpamSpecials ... for hours.... On the other hand, you can't do that in space. you have to keep concentrated and focused for each single target. This sounds like "fun" or "gaming" ??? Sure, cause it IS FUN (atleast for me).

- Compared to the ground-Professions collecting XP in Space is more like "work", you have to constantly do something for it, not just get the best sticking combat profs and start "spamming specials" by hitting your mouse-button like hell (or make a recursive macro thet spams the specials for you).

- The group-thing in space is a quite interesting point. I myself am master pilot, and i haven't seen XPs coming when i didn't hit the target at least once (what doesn't mean that i am completeley sure about that). Anyway, if this is a reason to group up with other player, then in my opinion it's not just OK, but it's GOOD! Cause it's not just an AFK-Solo-Group where you need the people to get bigger missions, no, all the pilots in the group have to do their job :-) Sounds nice to me !

IMO 50:1 is a bit high, 25:1 is better i think, but any conversation-rate is appreciated instead of this "no, JTL is fun, so it cant get a way to become jedi"-ting right now. I would prefer only Prstige-Points to get changed to FS-XP, this gives everyone a reason to master the profession :-)

btw.: Shipwright-XP should also get able to be changed to FS-XP



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Greets, Gellay ;~}
Server: Gorath
Gellay: Master Marksman, Master Rifleman, Master Smuggler (&Pilot)
Suesse: Master Artisan, Master Weaponsmith, Master Shipwright
KyorD
Sun Jan 23, 2005 1:21 am
#31

/sign




Kyor Darkson - Commissioned - August 6, 2003

Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall set me free.
mrbleepbleep
Sun Jan 23, 2005 4:18 am
#32

I disagree with the petition. People with good twitch skills already enjoyhuge benefits in the ground game because of it - they can grind faction easily, and make money easily from space loot and or/selling the faction they make. It's one thing to have financial relationships between ground and space, but getting ground skills from piloting is going way too far in my opinion.



Dasharr Eandall - Elder Smuggler
Amantha Galinn - Apprentice Smuggler
"The Jedi embrace peace butdeny passion.
The Sith covet passion but reject peace.
Neither is the whole truth. Life needs both passion and peace."
ProjectOfRim
Tue Jan 25, 2005 8:56 pm
#33

Sorry to burst ur bubble but devs dont read anything named Petition. I'd sign other wise.




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Oscia
Wed Jan 26, 2005 12:07 am
#34

/sign


why the heck not?



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chali2ner
Wed Jan 26, 2005 12:41 am
#35

Yes, this is a great idea, me and my guildies talk about this all the time. If this every does happen (not likely) the devs better make sure the ratio's are right


/sign



You lose -5000 dark jedi faction

You gain +5000 noob faction

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Mafuw
Wed Jan 26, 2005 8:28 am
#36






mrbleepbleep wrote:

I disagree with the petition. People with good twitch skills already enjoyhuge benefits in the ground game because of it - they can grind faction easily, and make money easily from space loot and or/selling the faction they make. It's one thing to have financial relationships between ground and space, but getting ground skills from piloting is going way too far in my opinion.






Where's the problem ? Before sologroup nerf people did make millions credits (out of nowhere) AND gained FS xp... Plus they can sell loot they got on the ground too... They can AFK grind, they can make money, make faction points, etc, but in space you HAVE to be in front of the screen, and HAVE to be grouped if you wanna make decent xp... + if i follow you, why the hell being a master pilot would give you an item you can wear on the ground ? That's unfair Nerf master pilot rewards !



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GeneralHan
Wed Jan 26, 2005 9:48 am
#37

i sign, don't go in space much, but if i had a reason to like for fsxp then i just might



"do or do not, there is no try" yoda

Kilb Kiltar
deneric
Wed Jan 26, 2005 10:06 am
#38


like people have said before"pilot has NOTHING to do with the force"dispite that,i'll sign.

Message Edited by deneric on 01-26-2005 10:18 AM



Deneric Slade
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...and making SWG a better place to be.
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deneric
Wed Jan 26, 2005 11:18 am
#39

/sign



Deneric Slade
Jedi Adept
GIVE ME PEACE
OR GIVE ME PANCKAES
perferably the pancakes
=============================I--------
so?how do u like my poorly drawn lightsaber?


- I support a rollback and keeping & balancing the old combat system.
...and making SWG a better place to be.
Your voice counts!
/\ /\
| \ \ `\
| \ \ `\
\ \ \ |
\ \| |
\ \ |
\ |\ |
.-' .--. |
/^\ ' .-. (
/\ / \ \
| | | | |
.'`|O|/ |__O|.'--.
{ '/___, \
`. ';(_Y_) `-'/ .'
\ \\\_| .' _.-'
`'.`._.'.''`
`-..'
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