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Thread: Petition : Convert Starship Pilot XP in FS xp

Delroh
Fri Jan 14, 2005 4:26 pm
#14






TJPuddlejumper wrote:

Who knows, if they did this, it make a few more sales of JTL for Sony.






Exactly what I was thinking, why not you can banke 7.5 Mil Perhaps even more Figher exp, I woudl be flying all the time then, much more enjoyable game for me right now. I detest being on the ground anymore.



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masterbahumet
Sat Jan 15, 2005 5:35 am
#15

ABSOLUTELY A GREAT IDEA!!!!!!!!!!!


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Cartouche
Sat Jan 15, 2005 7:02 am
#16






True... but I wonder if that works very well for master pilots, I think as a master you xp faster alone than in group all hitting the same target once or twice... That said, that way of xp is great to reach master


I'm not master pilot yet, some masters should test if it's faster to group xp when alone or not... I doubt it's really faster but I can't revoke that argument yet...






Yes, even as a Master you get xp/prestige much faster in a group. We don't all focus on the same target unless we have to. But even when we have to "share" targets, tier 5's go down much faster with 2-3 pilots shooting atthem.


To give you an idea of how beneficial grouping is we've done the 30 Ties mission several times in less than 20 minutes.






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Mafuw
Sat Jan 15, 2005 8:10 am
#17


Good point, but I wanna know in term of xp how faster it is to xp in group...

I've been told it was about 1 million/hour in solo, can you tell me how much it is in group ? We need to know it to discuss again about ratio...

Keep testing, you make good job

And don't be shy, give new ideas if you have some


Edit : oh, would also be nice to have a word from FS/Jedi correspondant

Message Edited by Mafuw on 01-15-2005 07:17 AM



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Bonlador
Sat Jan 15, 2005 9:57 am
#18

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Cartouche
Sat Jan 15, 2005 10:04 am
#19




There seems to be some confusion.


A tier 5 (other than a gunboat) is worth 6K to 9K xp or prestige. Let's say we're grouped, and not too far from each other.Every time you kill a tier 5, I get 6K to 9K prestige even if Inever hit the ships you destroy. So, obviously, you accumulate prestige much faster in a group than solo.




I can't remember if it works the same waybefore you reach master (I guess not), but that's how prestige works (and after reaching master you don't get xp anymore, just prestige).


So, if you have a group capable of killing 30 tier 5'sin 15 mins, then you get180K-250K prestige in 15 mins. How fast you get prestige depends on the strength of your group.


Note that to get 1 million prestige in 1 hour flying solo, you would have to kill 100+ tier 5 Aggressors, or 150+ othertier 5 typesin an hour, which is not realistic.

Message Edited by Cartouche on 01-15-2005 09:20 AM



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Minic
Sat Jan 15, 2005 11:37 am
#20

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i'd luv for this... i like the space game "grind" alot more than the ground simply because it takes some form of skill (twitch) rather than just spam macros...



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FiveToFour
Sat Jan 15, 2005 11:48 am
#21

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This is one of the main reasons not many play JTL, they're either FS grinding, jedi grinding, or hunting jedi and feel that there's not time for space. Plus, many jedi in SW have become great pilots and force users simultaneously...

As for getting XP grouped, it still would not be as fast as using grenades because you have to hit that gunboat at least once(even if you're grouped, unless they've changed something in the past few weeks despite not listing it in any update notes) and not get killed by it or enemy starfighters. This is especially difficult when the gunboats are getting killed every few seconds and having friendly ships in your line of fire prevents you from hitting it at the safest angle(which is from behind where only one turret can hit you if it hasn't been destroyed yet). But from what I've seen, getting 1 mil XP in an hour is not realistic, because in farming Kessel for FP, I've only managed to make about 2k-3k in an hour, while 1 mil XP per hour would mean over 5k FP at the rate you gain it from enemy starfighters. So a small group might be necessary, just don't expect it to be as fast as grenades.



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Rantug
Sat Jan 15, 2005 12:05 pm
#22

Not having Starship XP and Prestige Points convert is absolutely Ridiculus. But 50:1 is quite a bit high, especially since it is not as easy to get as ground xp's. I would love to see it at 25:1, which I think is absolutely where it should be. I have like 2million starship xp and Prestige sitting in my XP, and they're going nowhere fast.

Plus, this might pursaude some others to get JTL


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Mafuw
Sat Jan 15, 2005 1:13 pm
#23






Cartouche wrote:






I wonder why we couldn't convert that xp into FS xp...







Because in space you get credit for all the kills by all the members of your group (at least that's how it works for Pilot Prestige).


Message Edited by Cartouche on 01-14-2005 05:37 PM




True... but I wonder if that works very well for master pilots, I think as a master you xp faster alone than in group all hitting the same target once or twice... That said, that way of xp is great to reach master


I'm not master pilot yet, some masters should test if it's faster to group xp when alone or not... I doubt it's really faster but I can't revoke that argument yet... Good to see some constructive answers, not like all the children in other posts




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Cartouche
Sat Jan 15, 2005 2:09 pm
#24





Not having Starship XP and Prestige Points convert is absolutely Ridiculus. But 50:1 is quite a bit high, especially since it is not as easy to get as ground xp's.






Getting prestige is much easier than getting ground xp, as explained in my posts above.




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Rantug
Sat Jan 15, 2005 2:31 pm
#25



Cartouche wrote:

Not having Starship XP and Prestige Points convert is absolutely Ridiculus. But 50:1 is quite a bit high, especially since it is not as easy to get as ground xp's.


Getting prestige is much easier than getting ground xp, as explained in my posts above.






Space xp does not come nearly as fast as ground xp. I can get 900k 2handed in 1-1.5 hours, and space is nowhere near that. I can also get 300k combat xp in 40-60mins. So i think 25 is good. but i will settle for anything.



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ManelGomes
Sun Jan 16, 2005 9:46 am
#26

I've been talking about this for some time with a couple of friends, I tottaly agree. Pilot xp is as good as any other.Also some of the main Jedi characters in the movies are Pilots and even use the force whileflying (Luke and Vader), the death star was destroyed by Luke using the force


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