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Thread: Questions that I have posed to the Developers Lets see what they say.
RedVenom400 wrote:
force cloak should not last forever , this is not world of warcraft and you guys are not rogues ,besides when getting really close you guys should be seen (yep like the rogues in wow)
So is it or isn't it WoW? LOL...what a tool.
Bobaku wrote:
RedVenom400 wrote:
force cloak should not last forever , this is not world of warcraft and you guys are not rogues ,besides when getting really close you guys should be seen (yep like the rogues in wow)
So is it or isn't it WoW? LOL...what a tool.
Stuyf wrote:
question number 1 seems most important to me....
especially with the new FRS system on its way..... the old sabers will have a great advantage cause they had the chance to loot premium and flawless pearls and the new jedi can't loot those...
Wouldnt the fact that MPowers is not balanced to MLS be more important then question number 1 if FRS is on its way? Cause even without Prems, a set of good tunes MLS is still more powerful then MP. I am NOT saying pearls are not an important issue, but it irks me to no end so much focus is on them (the bs about needing them to grind MP is by far the most stupid and ignorant response I have heard, and thus not replied to) and MP primary issues are totally ignored here.
Stuyf wrote:
I agree that master powers is still not up par with MLS.... but i must say with crappy pearls a Mpower stands a good chance at winning!
i dueled a Mpowers, 4040 LS, 4100 healer, 0040 defender and dont know what she had in enhancer but i had a very hard time getting her down so mpowers isn't as weak if the other doesnt have good pearls...
Tamianx wrote:
Stuyf wrote:
I agree that master powers is still not up par with MLS.... but i must say with crappy pearls a Mpower stands a good chance at winning!
i dueled a Mpowers, 4040 LS, 4100 healer, 0040 defender and dont know what she had in enhancer but i had a very hard time getting her down so mpowers isn't as weak if the other doesnt have good pearls...
But ask yourself this .. had you had Prem pearls, would MP even have a chance? And why should MP have to pick up LS at all in order to be competitive? The idea, at least my persumption, is MP should be a 'viable alternative' to MLS. Not trying to zing you, and fully support getting pearl issue fixed, but I do have a problem when pearls are the top of everyones list and no attention is given toward dealing with the fundamental issues associated with MP.
Yeah i would think that if i had all prem pearls Mp would be defeated fast... that fact is somewhat unbalanced.... I dont agree on the fact that someone with MP shouldnt be able to use a LS... Not that i wanna compare SWG to the movies but if you look at those you'll see even the poweruses such as Vader and Palpatine using a LS.... LS is and will always be the weapon of a Jedi.... to quote obiwan "This weapon is your life"
Stuyf wrote:
Tamianx wrote:
Stuyf wrote:
I agree that master powers is still not up par with MLS.... but i must say with crappy pearls a Mpower stands a good chance at winning!
i dueled a Mpowers, 4040 LS, 4100 healer, 0040 defender and dont know what she had in enhancer but i had a very hard time getting her down so mpowers isn't as weak if the other doesnt have good pearls...
But ask yourself this .. had you had Prem pearls, would MP even have a chance? And why should MP have to pick up LS at all in order to be competitive? The idea, at least my persumption, is MP should be a 'viable alternative' to MLS. Not trying to zing you, and fully support getting pearl issue fixed, but I do have a problem when pearls are the top of everyones list and no attention is given toward dealing with the fundamental issues associated with MP.
Yeah i would think that if i had all prem pearls Mp would be defeated fast... that fact is somewhat unbalanced.... I dont agree on the fact that someone with MP shouldnt be able to use a LS... Not that i wanna compare SWG to the movies but if you look at those you'll see even the poweruses such as Vader and Palpatine using a LS.... LS is and will always be the weapon of a Jedi.... to quote obiwan "This weapon is your life"
So i guess we both agree powers needs a little boost aswell as the pearldrops...
Sorry, not suggesting that MP shouldnt be able to use a LS .. am saying they shouldnt HAVE TO use a LS to be viable. The reason the person is using LS, as a guess, is primarly for AB and supplemental damage... thus why believe weaken should have an AB effect. And the Emp didnt use a LS later on, so can only assume they fixed powers by then
Baciacca wrote:
2.Phase 3 Capture Enemy Leadership - Sith Commander moves way too slow and refuses to climb hills making only 1 base (the one nearest the Village) viable to complete the quest. Any Chance of getting this fixed?
Grunzer wrote:
I just pm'd your Jedi Correspondent with some advice. This is in response to the people who complained about how he presented his questions that he expects answered. Honestly, I felt your complaints had merit. I see no hard Data being collected, no real information is being passed on to the developers besides (HEy this ain't working! fix it!)
Your Jedi Correspondent might wish to try gathering volunteers to generate and record accurate data concerning the problems within your profession, using these forums as a median. He should then be stickying each post regarding the information so that each person here can comment or check the data for themselves and add comments or discuss issues. Then he should be compiling that data and basing his questions upon said data.
For instance, you might be able to prove that pearls aren't dropping enough if you could show the developer team, that say, pearls drop 1 per hour, are of GOOD quality, and only 1 in 10 tune well, and if it takes 4 pearls to fill a 4th gen saber. Then you've had to spend 40 hours collecting 40 pearls just so you could have enough to fill (1) lightsaber.
Anyway, this is the message I pm'd him. You guys really ought to think about this. I realize none of the other correspondents bother with this kind of testing anymore, but at one time it was a standard practice and a decent way to at least get the issues acknowledged and perhaps a few comments from the developers.
If your correspondent comes off bad, then he will largely be ignored by the developer team, this also used to happen a lot. They're not interested in opinions, they're interested in cold hard data. Show them your problems, show them your proof of said problems, then squeeze them until they answer. That's the way it needs to be done.
Hey Bro,
I saw your list of things that you submitted to the developers. Just some advice from an old SW:G Beta Tester if you don't mind? You might find they are much more responsive to hard data.
Concerning Pearl Drops: I think it would have been better to get 5-6 Jedi together who were willing to hunt for crystals/pearls at all the known locations and record:
Like this EXAMPLE:
Mob Hunted: Canyon Corsair's Cl40-45 Corsair POI.
Loot Hunted: Crystal
Quality of Item: 5 Fair, 2 good
Hours spent hunting: 7
Average Tune: (Data here)
Server: Chilastra
Then you take this data, compile it, average it out, and hand it to the dev's. And THIS way, they can see what the problems are. Perhaps pearls don't drop enough? perhaps too much? etc. etc. etc.
You have to back up all your statements with Data in order for them to listen to you. Otherwise you are just wasting your very valuable time.
You need to go out on the forums and hunt for volunteers to run some of these tests. Such as the issues with Force Powers. Damage Vs. Time spent, Vs Lightsabers. etc.
All these are valid complaints but you've got no hard data to give to the dev's, you need responsible and accurate data collectors. And I'm sure if you just asked you'd find at least 4-5 people willing to help you collect data for presentation to the developers.
Message Edited by Grunzer on 07-09-2005 12:11 AM
Sheesh, it's been a long time since I've seen something like that presented to either the players or Dev's. Probably about the time crystals/pearls tables got borked both in drop rate and tuning around pub 10 or 11. Then again, when have those loot tables not been bugged in some way.
Bac, please try and push for some other way to obtain crystals and pearls!! From what I've read, due to the mishandling of the conversion of some of the higher end NPC's(DJM/DKM etc) it's a near direct link to the problems that have been created since CU hit.
Daetori wrote:
Thank you for asking the questions and posting in here as well Baciacca!
Baciacca wrote:
Questions for the Devs from the Community:
4.The first attack after the Old man visit has 3 Sith attackers with level 75 and Up. This is not possible for people without near finished templates. Think we can tone those attackers CL down a bit?
I understand that Sith Shadows pre-CU were a lot easier to handle, I am not sure, however,their levels need decreasing. In a sense their level being so high represents the value of the Village and by making them CL50- 60 (or less) we would be slightly devaluing the FS route.
Sorry, it was late at night for me.
Morathai wrote:
maelstrom123 wrote:
Before CU, I was able to do this with no problem like plenty of other players. After CU, I tried doing this with my second character (Master Doc with some pistol). I did a respec to Master Rifle/Master Doc that put me at CL 54. While still a bit lower than the CL 75-77 sith, I was still able to pull it off.
Basically, I pulled one sith (which aggroed a second) and kept healing and shooting until I killed them both. On a longshot, I looted both bodies and got the datapad/waypoint. Very lucky indeed, but required a respec to rifleman.
Hope this may be of help to others.
am i missing something master rifle master doc makes cl80 not 54.
I was only Master Doc but since I was CL 54 I had used one of the laser rifles from my other toon to kill the sith. Point is that I was able to do this with some stratagy, tactics and guts.Message Edited by maelstrom123 on 07-10-2005 10:58 PM