Force Sensitive Archive
Thread: My idea for a new way to unlock jedi... DEVS, PLEASE READ!!
Cuit
Wed Aug 03, 2005 10:00 am
#118
Icad wrote:
If you havn't read this post before, go back and read ALL pages..
you reallize there are 137 . . er . . . 138 postson this thread? Maybe its time to re-write with all the changes inserted.
To be honest . . .its a long read . . . and it made my head hurt 
Icad
Thu Aug 11, 2005 8:59 am
#121
Once again, to see ALL my ideas about my change to the Jedi system, read ALL pages
Nivekious
Thu Aug 11, 2005 9:13 am
#122
i agree with the general idea but i think it would need some work. while only doing one quest every three weeks is pretty unrealistic, there should be some sort of time restraint. also it needs to take such a large amount of time that 95% of the population won't want to do it. maybe 1-2 years or something. under the current system it only takes 18 weeks and that does not seem like very long to most players, thus the mobs of jedi everywhere. also the quest would have to be incredibly difficult and, most importantly, you should have to do them alone or possibly with other players who are on the same quest. if you want to keep any realism in the game at all you can't have people running around all over the place yelling "need help with jedi quest" in a time period when everybody is supposed to hate jedi. just some thoughts.
Icad
Sat Aug 13, 2005 2:15 pm
#123
remember to read ALL pages before replying, or you won't get the full idea
Icad
Mon Aug 15, 2005 6:42 am
#124
please note, that my idea is designed to HIDE jedi from the public..
Icad
Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:11 am
#125
The jedi will no longer be showing off powers in cities and stuff. they will no longer be in the GCW. They will be in their OWN war. DJ vs LJ. It would be a massive secret war that has been going on for decades BEFORE the empire was first formed.
mpedersen
Tue Aug 16, 2005 1:48 pm
#127
Taliesyn42 wrote:
Adding a choice component would be a very good idea, but my concern is that going jedi under your system would be entirely too easy. The advent of the Age of the Jedi (aka the hundreds of jedi players on every server) has pretty much killed the GCW. Where there used to be CONSTANT faction combat going on everywhere, it has now been reduced to jedi gank squads hanging out outside the major starports waiting for unsuspecting SF folks to arrive (thank the FRSfor that one) and jedi strike teams that run around whacking bases and massacring any non-jedi who try to get involved in the GCW.
Any change (and one is necessary!) should make jedi MUCH harder to acquire, and preferably, retain. Jedi don't run around in hit squads indiscriminately killing people - it's against the Jedi code, and any dark jedi with a brain would consider thuggery beneath them. The system needs to be changed so that it doesn't encourage jedi gank squads (perhaps removal of the FRS and personal visits from a CL 500 Darth Vader with SERIOUS penalties if visibility gets too high?) and also rewards people who play more like jedi/dark jedi should. SOE once promised that jedi would be nearly impossible to reach, to keep the jedi plague from reaching epidemic proportoins. Their failure has turned SWG into KotOR.
Actually, bad comparison - there weren't THIS many jedi in both KotOR games put together.
This is a good idea in theory. The problem is that there would be an enormous amount content to be written, and I don't believe SOE is up to the job. However, if they do it they should push all jedi back to "initiate" (I'm a jedi so don't flame, I would accept it right along with you) to do all the quests before earning padawan.
If you were a current jedi and pushed back you should get a couple "considerations" for your investment. Once you reach the rank of Padawan you will get the number of skill pts that you currently have invested in Jedi skills as "Free trains". You should also keep your alt (we've earned it).
The progression through the jedi ranks should be very hard story driven quests (along the lines of the hero of tatooine quests) and they should be made random so that guides are not on the forums.
IE: Kill 10 beasts terrorizing settlers on tatooine. The beast should be a random spawn, and at only 1 location at a time. Something like this that would truly require the dedication of a jedi.
These are good ideas, except that there should be only 1 jedi enclave, and the quests themselves would determine the path you take (light / dark). If you become a Jedi Knight you get that title, if you become a Sith Lord, you get that title. Light or dark side should not determine which faction you join.
Gambunta
Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:58 am
#129
good enough for me,so ill bump it up, add my content ideas to this
(http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=jedi&message.id=1153153#M1153153) and i think we have a winner
(http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=jedi&message.id=1153153#M1153153) and i think we have a winner
Message Edited by Gambunta on 08-23-2005 11:04 AM
Sibras
Tue Aug 23, 2005 4:39 am
#130
Some great ideas, i like, i like.... on a completely different topic, have u ever played Kotor? 