Fencer Archive

Thread: Weapons ( Future of Fencer )

Unwanted
Sat Feb 28, 2004 3:07 pm
#66
How about adding a weapon that is a dual wield weapon, but just for graphic purposes so we can look cooler. I mean that would be fine with me. So the fact that its two weapons might have something say its a little heavy on ham costs but it has awesome damage or a little slower (like thatll matter anyways) but still. Just dual wielding swords, want so bad...



~Deesnik the Rodian~Lowca~Fencer~
DamianlXl
Sat Feb 28, 2004 5:34 pm
#67
you know, thats not a bad idea. If we cant have true dual wielding, slap another sword onto the left hand and give +to block, like a parrying dagger.
Zarthin
Sun Feb 29, 2004 12:20 pm
#68
Vibro Rapier in Post above with picture


AP1= More Max Dmg 160-21030/40/20HasAp, Decent Damage

Ap2= Less Max Dmg120-170 30/40/20 Makes up for less dmg with Ap2





Almarte Pl'Bro
Fencer Extraordinaire style="filter:glow(color=red, strength=30)"
Ktzero3
Sun Feb 29, 2004 10:32 pm
#69

I believe our correspondant Chaser has already addressed the issue of dual wielding... buut I will remind everyone that it is not possible for us to LITERALLY hold two weapons (equip two items in the inventory screen as weapons), but it IS possible for us to SEEM like we are holding two weapons (equip one item in the inventory screen which has a picture of two swords). Our avatar in game would also be holding two swords (its just a matter of animating it). It is impossible for us to wear onlyone of the two swords in combination with something else (ex. graffi stick, pistol) because it is realistically just ONE weapon that looks like two, and the game mechanics is designed for us to only wield one weapon.


Now, if any of that made sense at all.. (it was hard to explain.. I tried!) I'd like to point out that to have a Master Fencerdual wield (katana and wakasashi, for example) schematic IS indeed possible, and that we should keep pushing for it .


I have no clue what the weapon's stats should be, however.



LympTrizvit
Thu Mar 04, 2004 8:21 pm
#70

High damage stun baton. Intended for master use (would have slow speed and slightly higher special costs).


-Xalandra


Zarkonan
Fri Mar 05, 2004 7:28 am
#71
The call for any new fencing weapons that are AP2 is ridiculous. Fencers are supposed to be agile, quick, and deadly against unarmored opponents. Leave the AP2 with the heavy swordsman.


As for weapons, there are two basic problems: first, the fencer's best weapon is a stick and one of the ugliest weapons in the game. Second, its also certified in the second skill box in brawler.


Has anyone ever used the sword? Of course not. Its a waste. They need to make all the existing weapons useful and spread the certs throughout the fencer tree.


Also, i think fencer weapons should NOT have large ranges of damage. These are dueling weapons, intended for efficiently killing an opponent, so a tight damage range will offeset melee mitigation. (One way to conceptualize it is a slashing attack may or may not hit deep or hit a vital area, therefore having a large dam range, while a tight deep puncture by a duelist at a vulnerable area will provide a more consistent damage)...


Finally, please, for the love of god, add fencing weapons- a rapier, etee, or even a long sword... anything beside that damnable gaffi stick...



Draxas Draavat, Master Heavy Swordsman, Blademaster, MBrawler
Order of the Silverflame
Starsider

Zedar Xang, Master Commando, Master TKA
Bloodfin
Scarsnik
Fri Mar 05, 2004 8:19 am
#72
I'd like to see the plain old sword get an upgrade, curved sword or the regular swordshould be the all-around standard fencer weapon. For higher skill levelshow about a craftable version of the Rantok?


A wider variety of weapons, too manyuseless daggers, how about a one handed axe of some sort? (slow,probably ap1, but big damage) A Whip? (Little/no damage, but bonuses to state effects?)


Something for the off-hand, either a Main Gauche (parrying dagger) , or a shield of some sort.


And in the wild dream department.... Stun -Chucks (Nunchuk version of the stun baton).


-Scaars
Sammadet
Sat Mar 06, 2004 12:13 am
#73
About Vibro-Weapons not being SW-like

IMO they are very SW-like and not only because Lucas "Invented" them but because its a very viable thing to do with a sword, to make it more efficient.

And, the vibro weapons have been in the SW universe for so long now that several people collect them as prized trophies. With lots of decorations and things like that.

And in my opinion, thats what a Star Wars Fencer would be like.

Not running around with a kitchen knife that makes buzzing sounds.

Oh, and thanks for all the feedback for my weapon thread =)
(http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=fencer&message.id=19567) and remember to check out the other info post a little further down the first page =)

And thanks to DamianlXl for the great drawings, those things look like they're taken right out of the SW comics (the early ones ie 5000 y before the Battle of Yavin)
kegz
Sat Mar 06, 2004 1:47 pm
#74
nunchucks...2 sticks tied 2gether...that type of deal



master fencer-4030 doc- 0040 pistoleer...uhhhh its an ok template till i get master droid engineer/architect..
DemionHuntarion
Sat Mar 06, 2004 4:57 pm
#75

Sammadats thread, I love it.


The Blast Sword would rock (FF8 gunblade heh).


Whips, mmmmm, who doesn't love whips?



Those two get my votes. Get'r done!




Eld- Master Heavy Swordsman, Master Pistoleer
Barhoar- Master Smuggler, Master Merchant, Weaponsmith in training
"Everyone here hates everyone here for doing the same things that they do." LTJ
Bingu
Sun Mar 07, 2004 12:08 pm
#76

Surely traditional fencing weapons would be best? Rapier with low dmg/high speed, ap1; Epee with high dmg, med speed, ap2 (cert at master), Colichemarde (sabre/epee hybrid), Gladius (roman sword),even katanas/tanto's etc (from Japanese disciplines)and so on.

Here's a pic of various fencer-style weapons I originally made for a Morrowind mod or two...

http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=47859&poll_id=0&warned=y
Shiva420
Sun Mar 07, 2004 5:26 pm
#77

  • more Swords, daggers, katanas, dai-katanas :BLADES: ,curved scythe, DUEL WEILD- either a sword and a dagger or sword and a shield,

  • the higher the weapon damage is, the higher the certification should be on the fencer tree

  • low mind, adverage action, adverage health costs



* Leah-Enlil *
account cancelled... ironicaly it ended exactly 1 year after it was purchased.july 25th.
pushing back the combat rebalance- and not fixing a core game system is the worst idea soe ever conceived.
- still hoping the dev team will get replaced and the game i once loved will get fixed. fix the core game, and problems.stop nerfing everything thats fun. stop doing things noone in the player community asked for!! listen to your customers damnit!!!
Commanderjrp
Tue Mar 09, 2004 2:32 pm
#78
make a vibro sword ap1, moderate HAM costs, min 50-100 max 200-250 3.0 speed. a nice weapon, but not an overpowered "uber" weapon. one that might have a chance at getting made and what is even better is that vibro swords are already a known part of the Star Wars universe, so making them wouldnt be hard to fit in


maybe add it to one hand 4 so that we have a real weapon for that slot



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