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like i said, i believe one of the major factors that make TKAs much betterr the added damage abilities; that is they hit much harder than we ever will.

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After reading both of these threads very intently.. I have to a conclusion...

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for a fencer to compete they really need master brawler. the added lunge2, intimidate2, and extra toughness make it worth it, on the other hand if tkm gets master brawler, they have even more toughness. fencer lacks the ability to stun... this is necessary.

i was in a duel with a fencer yesterday, i was unarmored (cept for stun PSG, 48% rez to stun) and he was in full comp (probably 80-85% kinetic rez) and i beat him.

keeping him intimidated and stuned... he was only doing like 60 damage to me with stun baton and like 70 or 80 damage with gaffi. thats with me not wearing armor at all besides the PSG, if i had stun composite armor on he would have done next to nothing at all. took a while... but his mind slowly got lower with my headhits, and keeping a dizzy / kd or posture change down on him.

The TK boards are full of newbs. With CoB running, in 65% kenetic armor, my health never dropsat all.I can usually take a tk in about 45 seconds.

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wow charr, that a nice thing to say.... i bet you check out the tk boards too?? seeing as how you have some tk.. did you even bother to read the post where i dueled a buffed and armored(80% kinetic) master fencer where I DID NOT WEAR ARMOR, and I won the duel. no he wasn't a noob, had 1500 combat rating. go back to your grind or w/e you do but don't post crap like that.... no way in hell any tk would go down in 45 secs if you had armor and buffs.... (65% kinetic??? )

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It seriously comes down to your equipment and the player.... I still have both TKM and Master fencer. Not sure on most servers but you will rarely see an armor duel on sunrunner. As a dueler and a pvper i still use TKM in both, but it would come down to your server. Simply put i dont know of any major pvp'er on my server that doesnt use stun armor and stun psg's making all but your extreame stun batons worthless. In duels ive tried just using all tkm and all fencer aginst the opposite proffesion and each time using tkm ive won, and each time using fencer ive lost. But i account this to lack of knowledge of the fencer profession. Yes im a master in it but out of the few months ive had it ive probably only used it 1% of the time where as ive used TKM 90% of the time (im a swordsman also thats where the rest went ). And as someone put it most of the tkms are a bunch of noobs..... i have to agree seems everyone has tka maybe not master but they have it because most people scream its the best and people pick it up. Well it is great and all but they dont take the time to learn the profession they just master it as fast as possible and expect to be great. Wich leaves those who have spent the time to truly learn there proffesion to destroy them. When i first picked up tkm if i would have dueled or pvp'ed much back then i bet i would have lost 99% if not all of those fights. Now after months of of it i can hold my own with most players (wins going back and fourth) and with only a few who will beat me all the time no matter what. So i would have to say imho tkm will win most of the time, now will i drop fencer? No not until i have to for that glowy stick..... i couldnt see being a tkm without fencer and for some stupid reason i droped pistols to do swords . I love swords to death but ever since i droped pistols i find myself on my back alot............

As to armor duels i'll have to get my friend to let me try it on him since we really dont do armor duels on my server

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tkm (stacker or not) vs fencer (stacker or not) in full buffs/foods and wearing pvp armor (80% kinetic and at least 20% stun resist) -

it's a draw. neither will do any significant dmg to the other.

not wearing armor - well, that's another question entirely. The TKM should win unless the Fencer also has some extra defense linesin Pistoleer (if he gets dizzy/kd'd, it's probably over) - and some kickass weapons. neither profession will miss the other one very often so our 'uber defense' is negated. it's not like fighting a two hander who will miss 9 times out of 10!

the tkm has more toughness and (usually) stronger offense, especially to mind. theoretically, they should not lose a duel to a fencer.

/shrug - wait for combat revamp and hope for the best

i am master fencer tka 4004 doc 4030 and i fear tkas but now i just dot them up, but i fear them once they state me up,, even with my 305 min 500 max baton i do fear them

1, psgs don't block kinetic anymore...

2, your forgetting stun, you all can call me crazy, but along with intimidate stun lowers def AND lowers your enemies attack output. a fencer was doing 100 dmg to me on average with just intimidate, then i stunned him and he was only doing around 50 dmg to me,once stun was gone he did 100 dmg again. so with your numbers, add in stun... damage output would be equal. but there are other factors to add in besides just pure damage output...

I am really not sure where you all are getting "fencer will do twice the damage..." etc from...

I have a 400 max damage stun baton (no pup) and a 215 vk, and well with a stun baton I cant hurt their mind if they are wearing a stun helmet - with a vk i can. Health attacks are pointless, everyone can heal