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Thread: Fencer: Sucks.

Higginsis
Wed Feb 11, 2004 6:48 pm
#14

You had to rely on bleeds? **edit**, i never used bleeds cos by the time its ticked the target was genrally dead.

I personally welcome this move, now flamer DOT's aren't as massive and don't stack.



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Hypoxide
Wed Feb 11, 2004 7:06 pm
#15

Well I've done almost every combat profession. It doesn't require one to be "cut out" to be a fencer or anything for that matter. This isn't some game of endurance. Fencer was helpful in my persuit of jedi, which is why I kept it. And I enjoyed it for that matter. I'm still silent after 20 professions.



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experttka
Wed Feb 11, 2004 9:06 pm
#16

another one without a life.



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r00ts
Wed Feb 11, 2004 9:12 pm
#17



experttka wrote:
another one without a life.





HAHA. lol thats funny.

Really, the nerf was uncalled for. My bleed damage is now 1/10 of what it was before.. I'm all for a nerf, but thats way out of proportion.

Are you sure its because of the resistance of the enemy? I tried my bleed on a 5% kinetic gualama today, and the bleed did the same as on a 20% creature.. Maybe I'll try the stun baton next time..



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Shadusdarkmour
Wed Feb 11, 2004 9:17 pm
#18

bleeds what are bleeds? I have never needed a bleed for any target of approaite level solo. period. Fencer got lots of other stuff. Very useful stuff. I would go ahead and describe them but why should I when they are all over this board. A good fencer can be a master pvper or pveer without ever having to use a bleed. If they know what they are doing they are force to be reckoned with even to riflemen.



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Why wasnt i supposed to bring a knife to this gun fight again?
r00ts
Wed Feb 11, 2004 9:23 pm
#19



Shadusdarkmour wrote:
bleeds what are bleeds? I have never needed a bleed for any target of approaite level solo. period. Fencer got lots of other stuff. Very useful stuff. I would go ahead and describe them but why should I when they are all over this board. A good fencer can be a master pvper or pveer without ever having to use a bleed. If they know what they are doing they are force to be reckoned with even to riflemen.





You obviously have never been a fencer. Bleeds were VERY useful for taking out groups of enemies, or any one large enemy. Sure, we can still do it, but now it's a whole lot harder then before. Bleeds used to act as an extra hit, so for every couple of hits or so you would get a free one. Sure, we probably didnt need that extra hit, but it helps a hell of a lot if you're killing more than one thing at a time.



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OneHung
Wed Feb 11, 2004 9:34 pm
#20

What you don't understand is "bleed stacks" aren't supposed to happen that's why it has been fixed




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Shadusdarkmour
Wed Feb 11, 2004 9:51 pm
#21






r00ts wrote:





Shadusdarkmour wrote:
bleeds what are bleeds? I have never needed a bleed for any target of approaite level solo. period. Fencer got lots of other stuff. Very useful stuff. I would go ahead and describe them but why should I when they are all over this board. A good fencer can be a master pvper or pveer without ever having to use a bleed. If they know what they are doing they are force to be reckoned with even to riflemen.







You obviously have never been a fencer. Bleeds were VERY useful for taking out groups of enemies, or any one large enemy. Sure, we can still do it, but now it's a whole lot harder then before. Bleeds used to act as an extra hit, so for every couple of hits or so you would get a free one. Sure, we probably didnt need that extra hit, but it helps a hell of a lot if you're killing more than one thing at a time.





Thats funny son. I been fencer since the start. Thats sarcasm if you didnt reckonize. The fact is i can solo anything you can and I can do it with out bleeding. Sure the bleed gives you extra hits.But that doesnt mean their needed. Keep this in mind.My pointwas that a fencer whoknows what he is doing doesnt need these moves. The orginal poster was that fencer stinks because we lost the bleeds. My post contradicts his by providing facts that a fencer can solo a good deal pvp or pve without bleeds thus fencer does not stink.Thats simple point counter point , why do youfeel the need totarget mystyle of play because it differs from yours. I have my reason for not using on bleeds. Mainly being nothing last long enough againist me to take effect.These are red cons at blademaster mind you.



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Master Fencer
Master Swordsman

Why wasnt i supposed to bring a knife to this gun fight again?
Olos_CH
Wed Feb 11, 2004 11:14 pm
#22






Rizzaka wrote:

Its the same as saying a man with kevlar on, we'll say, is standing still butyou try to stab himwith your handly little knife.... yeah thats not gonna happen easily.







Actually kevlar does very, very, very little against a knife lol


Throw on a kevlar vest and have someone stab you- guarantee you'll bleed just as much as without it



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95M3
Wed Feb 11, 2004 11:59 pm
#23

I am new to fencer 3,3,3,3 still and I dont use bleeds as they are too slow.


I can say that every NERF is proof that the Dev's are still fixing this BETA game that we are all paying them for.


They should be adding content and fixing broken things that are still here from BETA.


Every NERF is the Dev team stealing your hard earned effort and time plain and simple.


Ask your corespondant to make a poll on every thing they have stolen from you and post that you want it back or you would like some compensation for your loss.


If they want to pay us for our time that is fine but they would loose too much money.


If the Dev's think that the players dont mind haveing what they earned stolen from them they will continue to do so. So let them know you dont like this trend of stealing instead of giving and post a petition/poll.


Complaining seperatly wont get you/us anywhere but if you have a petition thread that is 20 pages long all stating the same thing they will notice.




NergalMS
Thu Feb 12, 2004 12:36 am
#24



95M3 wrote:

I am new to fencer 3,3,3,3 still and I dont use bleeds as they are too slow.

I can say that every NERF is proof that the Dev's are still fixing this BETA game that we are all paying them for.

They should be adding content and fixing broken things that are still here from BETA.

Every NERF is the Dev team stealing your hard earned effort and time plain and simple.

Ask your corespondant to make a poll on every thing they have stolen from you and post that you want it back or you would like some compensation for your loss.

If they want to pay us for our time that is fine but they would loose too much money.

If the Dev's think that the players dont mind haveing what they earned stolen from them they will continue to do so. So let them know you dont like this trend of stealing instead of giving and post a petition/poll.

Complaining seperatly wont get you/us anywhere but if you have a petition thread that is 20 pages long all stating the same thing they will notice.






Didnt the BETA crutch go out of fashion about 4 months ago?

/kicks horse
Yep its still dead



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jgr
Thu Feb 12, 2004 4:46 am
#25

This change is just going to make for even more teras kasi artists out there, lots of swordsmen and fencers that love pure melee classes will flock to tk because of this issue. This game is getting likeStreetfighter set in the star wars universe now.



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Zarthin
Thu Feb 12, 2004 5:32 am
#26






r00ts wrote:





Shadusdarkmour wrote:
bleeds what are bleeds? I have never needed a bleed for any target of approaite level solo. period. Fencer got lots of other stuff. Very useful stuff. I would go ahead and describe them but why should I when they are all over this board. A good fencer can be a master pvper or pveer without ever having to use a bleed. If they know what they are doing they are force to be reckoned with even to riflemen.







You obviously have never been a fencer. Bleeds were VERY useful for taking out groups of enemies, or any one large enemy. Sure, we can still do it, but now it's a whole lot harder then before. Bleeds used to act as an extra hit, so for every couple of hits or so you would get a free one. Sure, we probably didnt need that extra hit, but it helps a hell of a lot if you're killing more than one thing at a time.





I agree with him I mean when taking on a Piket I really as a 4-4-4-2 fencer trying to get master doesn't really need the bleed but it does help A LOT! Like he said it's an extra hit, really helps taking down that beasts faster. When i really enjoy Bleeds is when I am taking on 3 pikets at a time, sure I dont Need it, but when I am fighting three at once and can only fight 1 at a time and slap bleeds on the other two by the time I waste 1 the other two are at half health and when I got to the third one it was even lower, they really helped lvling up the tree faster.



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