Fencer Archive

Thread: Fencer: Sucks.

CloverRidge
Thu Feb 12, 2004 6:09 am
#27

Well here's the thing too now for PvE. Bleeds take away from XP so you wouldn't want to use them anyway if they still did full damage.


So, you can no longer bleed a target and switch to another weapon and get full xp with that weapon as the bleed damage takes away from the xp pool.


This affects any weapon you use bleeds with including using a bleed and staying with a Fencer weapon to finish the kill. You'll get less xp now for whatever damage the bleeds do.


So the best bet for full xp and a quick kill IMO is knockdown Warcry 2(or 1)and spam a Body Hit till dead. Better either be buffed or have Novice Medic to heal back your HAM loss.


Get a powerup that reduces Health Cost by 33% and you're golden.



Ytoavee Oases
Corbantis
CorbinValtha
Thu Feb 12, 2004 7:19 am
#28

Master Fencer here and all I have to say is Fencer>TKM. If you put an experienced fencer and an experienced tkm together (let's just say both are just novice brawlers and masters of their melee class) then fencer will more often than not win. A fencer WILL (well should) always COB in a duel when a TKM generally doesn't even worry about it (form personal experience). Warcry here doesn't really matter because any experienced melee fighter knows that if he is warcried he needs to run until that 10 seconds is up. I personally hit them with a blind first then a dizzy/lunge (as they have crap for defense against either of these) and the lunge usually sticks. If the tkm actually falls then i apply a bleed 2 then spam either a scatter or body hit. If the tkm doesn't fall I generally don't worry about the bleed and get an intimidate to stick, if that doesn't stick I just go straight into the spaming. The TKM will generally spend half of the fight trying to dizzy/kd which is mostly pointless and laughable from a fencer. This is of course assuming both are fairly well buffed, if neither person is buffed it's generally just a spamfest until someone goes down (which usually is us first in this case since the damage from UH3 is much greater than the damage output we can do).



I'm not here to impress anyone, i'm not here to hold your hand. When it boils down to it I more than likely hate you.
radtranceman
Thu Feb 12, 2004 9:49 am
#29

These types of posts amaze me. They provide no constructive discussion on the Fencer Profession. If you are upset about loosing the bleeds as they weretry to be constructive about it. Fencer sucks gets you nowhere. TH and Devs will pay absolutely no kind of attention to this type of post.


If fencer does not fit your style of play don't play it. I personally have not used bleeds since I got blademaster except to power level myself in holo professsions. That has changed so now I will adapt to something else.I've had absolutely no trouble taking on high level mobs and npcs.In PVP I am very successful in one-on-one situations even against the kiting of ranged players and i've developed tactics that work well in large group pvp. Then again, i don't just use bleeds, dizzy/posturechange,and spam 1h3. Why don't you try exploring the other features of fencer? Might change your whole gaming experience.


Many people discuss the low damage of fencers yet I can kill things as fast if not faster than TKMs, who by the way have no bleed whatsoever. We have the second most dmg per second of the melee professions and over all are only behind TKM and Pistoleer/Smuggler/bh pistol templates.


Just because you don't like fencer without bleeds doesn't mean the rest of us care. Don't like it, don't play it. Thats why there are other professions. Nobody forced you to spend your skill points on fencer. If it was a holo you still had a choice.



Zzz (pronounced zed)/Wanderhome
Dictator of Monk
Galaxy-Stalker
Thu Feb 12, 2004 10:54 am
#30

I'm new to Fencer, and was actually enjoying it, not high enough for any bleeds as i'm 0/0/0/0, but I am starting to wonder. Posted this before and never got a response so i'll try it here. How is it that someone who isn't even a Novice Swordsman and only has 2 blocks done in 2hd can almost beat me in a straight up duel ? I have easily beat this same person when he had 2 blocks in fencer and dueled me (touched me twice).he since dropped fencer before we dueled the last time.If he had hit me once more I would have been done. I'm using Rykk w/ 1.9 speed and he's usin some sword with very low speed. Any ideas as to what i may be doing wrong?Oh we are both pistoleers I'm 0/0/1/0 he's master (but like I said beat him before when he had 1hd and master pistoleer)




Savir Ebari


Jack of all trades,master of none


"Say what again , I dare ya, I double dare M*** F***"


Samuel L. Jackson Pulp Fiction



RyushiYoshi
Thu Feb 12, 2004 11:06 am
#31






Pappi wrote:
i donno... i really like fencer just don't let the pikemen see this post





!!!!!.........I am a witness!!!...Quick!...I must run to my Pikeman brethren and whine/**edit**/moan/complain/cry ToO!!!



Imperial Colonel Ryuten Mizu
Former Master of Force Powers and Lightsabers
Serving since June 30, 2003

Zoom01
Thu Feb 12, 2004 11:26 am
#32

whats the point of nerfing bleeds. even though the devs can still make the CM'sstack poisions and diseases..im most worried about this in PvP.



>Zoom
Master Swords/Master Rifle/TKA 4004/Novice Medic
-Best PVE template- IMO of course..
XingYuen
Thu Feb 12, 2004 12:03 pm
#33

Well, our bleeds don't really bother me anymore. I preferred poison DoT's on weapons anyway, and I don't have to spend ham to cause that effect, just land a hit. However, I no longer have to fear Two Handers in any way. That's really too bad.




Xing Yuen

Page 3 of 3