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Thread: PvP question: How do I counteract this?
Thanks ![]()
I apoligize to the fencer community on behalf of Ry.
I used to beat him as a MTKA cause he can't quite figure out how to use fencer ![]()
Jybisu wrote:
LOL.
Speaking as a former MTKA and now master fencer I can tell you I eat MTKAs for breakfast.
80% kinetic and their screwed.
Simply get buffed, brandy and canape.
Max dmg/mind reduction powerup on your stun baton.
Dizzy/blind/intim/lunge+ scatter hit 2 = Dead MTKA.
Repeat as needed.
Shaggy-foo is an example of what I call a "blind person". He enjoys being invincible, as being a TKM/Master Fencer makes him quite close to it. He is used to winning nearly every battle he encounters and doesn't want it to change, and therefore becomes "blind" to the fact that TKM's are ridiculous. As are Riflemen. Even we Fencers are a bit ridiculous in that we can dodge almost 90% of the attacks that come our way, with the exception of the TKM's who pound through my dodge/CoB/Blind like I'm standing still with my feet buried in the ground. I am capable of beating a TKM if they are not "the sharpest knife in the drawer", if you know what I mean, but I don't stand a chance against someone who knows to dizzy me their first hit, knock me down in their second hit, and pound me into oblivion in a matter of seconds. Have some KD food, you say? If I take that, I cannot have my brandy and action food, which will cause me to die even quicker from HAM costs. And even with the brandy and action food and even Pixie in some cases, I will not have the chance to even use a special on the son of a baz nitch because I'll be on the ground the whole fight. And in the rare case that I am not, I get a mind hit while I try desperately to kill him, helping him kill me due to HAM costs, and even if I didn't use specials, I would still get whacked because his HAM costs are virtually non-existent. "Duhhhhh, we only get one damage type! Our vibro-knucklers have high HAM-costs!" Bull. I've seen the HAM costs of a TKM with and without VK's and they don't seem to do jack shat to you. Now, wake the frick up and see that there NEEDS to be some serious fixing in TKA and Fencer.
On the note of Riflemen, they shoot as fast as a pistoleer, have much, much higher damage, heavy AP weapons, and special attacks with damage modifiers that make your head spin..and they can pop you with a mind shot without a problem in one hit, with or without armor (advanced composite). Carbineers are supposed to be the machine gunners, not the Riflemen..and Carbineers are slow as crap. The Riflemen are supposed to be Riflemen. Not ASSAULT Riflemen. Look at the speed a T21 has..that's what it is supposed to shoot at..not 1.0, more like 6.0 or so. The problem is the speed modifiers, making a Rifleman a fricken walking howitzer with speed beyond belief. Now, I've said it once, and I'll say it again: WAKE UP!!!!!!
Edit: Tai is also blind. I've mastered fencer 4 times and have been using it effectively for a long..long..LONG..time. Don't tell me I don't know how to use fencer correctly. I was an effective fencer BEFORE we got CoB and had our dodge actually work. God, I seriously can't believe how incredibly blind and idiotic some people can be...Really, I wish you Tai-like people would get a swift blow to the head in hopes that you open your friggen eyes and see things the way they really are. It ain't right for one melee profession to rule over all others, and one ranged to rule over all others. Can't you see that?!
Message Edited by General_Reedy on 03-22-2004 08:16 AM
dbmack wrote:
So I'm fighting aTKM in Theed last night.He has the following:
- Full Health and Action buffs
- Mind buffed (secondaries as well, I believe, his mind was regen'ing really fast)
- Brandy (probably, why his mind was coming back so fast)
- Full Composite (80% kinetic, I assume)
- Stun Layered Composite Helm
I basically had the same things as well. He and I just beat on each other constantly and we weren't getting anywhere. It was ridiculous. Eventually, four others showed up and they all killed me.
I tried my stun baton w/scatter hit 2, but I couldn't damage him fast enough before his mind came back. So I tried the Gaffi stick, but anytime his health got low, he healed himself completely.
It was literally a stalemate if his friends hadn't shown up. Is there anything that can be done in a situation like this?
In situations like this it's awfully handy to have some decent mind DOT weapons.
So let me see Ry..
You couldn't figure out how to use fencer so you surrended it and mastered in again 4 times?
What a waste of effort ![]()
Lets face it Ry, MTKA's do not rule over crap.
80% kinetic shuts them down.
Your the only one still whining about TKAs.
It must be because you can't figure out how to put on armor and beat them.
Frankly its just getting annoying now.
MTKA don't rule over all, only over people who can't PvP and don't know how to put on armor ![]()
No, Tai..I surrendered it because I wanted to master Bio-engineer in order to make some pets that would have less of a chance of being massacred in PvP, which sadly failed because CH is borked...so after I was done with BE, I re-mastered Fencer. I had then been out killing Nightsister stalkers on Dathomir and thought the Force powers were really neet, so I started pursuing BH, which was what my second Holo said. Then I heard the profession-mastery system was being removed, and I thought it would happen sooner than I could complete BH, so I stopped and re-mastered Fencer. Then I heard it wasn't going in for a while and started it up again, then decided I couldn't take the Investigation grind, blah, blah, blah...so eventually I got to Mastery #4. Each time I mastered it, I knew how to use it, and did so effectively..it is just hard to use effectively against the vast majority of people who take up the flavour of the month professions/templates../cough Tai /cough. ![]()
But anyhow, I would get some 80% kinetic armor, but remember that even at 80%, it is still pretty useless unless you've got a full buff on you. I tend to have the rotten luck of finding zero doctors within a 4km radius of myself, and if I do find one, their buffs hit me for about 800 or so (unless I'm in Theed..sometimes). In addition, half of my skill points are TOTALLY wasted in CH because the devs felt the need to nerf all creatures into oblivion..and I still have a shred of hope that one day they will make our pets capable of killing something in full buffs and armor one day, or at least lasting more than 5 seconds while attempting to do so..I'm also addicted to the neetness of having a silly eopie with 12k HAM and such, so I will not be giving it up
But even he is demolished by the nearest enemy rifleman, TKM, or what-not. I guess the 60% kinetic resistance cap on creature pets isn't enough to stop a TKM from demolishing a critter.
I use freaking food and spice and the like..I've also got meditation 4, and can thus get I believe 1280 health and action, and 1500 mind, plus two brandy's is something in the 2k area. I add in some action food, whose name escapes me, and a Pixie, and my overall HAM is around 2.5k with strength, quickness, and focus around 1k or so. Yet I still am knocked down and beaten to a bloody pulp because my defense vs. dizzy and knockdown doesn't do jack...and even if I used the KD defense food, I would then have my HAM wasted due to the fact that I must spam specials at my opponent to do small amounts of damage, the HAM costs being even worse wearing armor and even worse yet due to the fact that I used KD food instead of the action food. So unless the TKM is a complete idiot (with Tai's exception
), he's gonna win. Or if the TKM's opponent isa CM with some nasty mind poison...
Main idea here, my leetle friends: PvP is broken. Don't be blind to it. I don't like the idea of nerfing stuff at all, but that seems to be the only way the devs attempt to "fix" things. I'm all about bringing up the other professions to the levels of the current rulers...but that is just unrealistic given the people we have calling the shots.
Oh yeah, I almost forgot....
WAKE UP!!!!