Fencer Archive

4030 DOC...cure all states
0040 pistoleer...extra D
master fencer...hit em with the mind fire dot...on tat..no water 4 them 2 run in2

works ok on most

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JeiTakabura wrote:

a good friend of mine has a Stun baton with 655 max dmg, with a pup of corse, he fought a master healer/saber/4004 enhancer jedi on his own, heres the thing he did,

1)Wore bone armor - yeah, have a good laugh, because it was interwoven bone armor, it has light armor rating and is sliced for encum, this jedi's saber had NO ARMOR PIERCING

2) Warcried the $hit outta the jedi, then intimidated him dizzy and lunge, BTW hes TKM/Master Fencer/Master brawler4140 Medic

3) Pwned the jedi with scatter hit

the jedi did 12% less dmg cause of the light armor rating, and he floped like a fishey.

so yes, armor actually does mean something against a jedi in PvP, even if it has 0% lightsaber

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Do you just make stuff up or what? Both of the highlighted parts are BS, jedi do not get to choose teh AP on their saber, thats like saying some guy had an AP0 T21, and wth is up with your random 12% statement, that makes no sense mathmatically nor does it follow game mechanics.

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kAotiC_HeRo wrote:

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JeiTakabura wrote:

a good friend of mine has a Stun baton with 655 max dmg, with a pup of corse, he fought a master healer/saber/4004 enhancer jedi on his own, heres the thing he did,

1)Wore bone armor - yeah, have a good laugh, because it was interwoven bone armor, it has light armor rating and is sliced for encum, this jedi's saber had NO ARMOR PIERCING

2) Warcried the $hit outta the jedi, then intimidated him dizzy and lunge, BTW hes TKM/Master Fencer/Master brawler4140 Medic

3) Pwned the jedi with scatter hit

the jedi did 12% less dmg cause of the light armor rating, and he floped like a fishey.

so yes, armor actually does mean something against a jedi in PvP, even if it has 0% lightsaber

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Doesn't work hombre.

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I stand corrected.

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Blardin wrote:

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JeiTakabura wrote:

a good friend of mine has a Stun baton with 655 max dmg, with a pup of corse, he fought a master healer/saber/4004 enhancer jedi on his own, heres the thing he did,

1)Wore bone armor - yeah, have a good laugh, because it was interwoven bone armor, it has light armor rating and is sliced for encum, this jedi's saber had NO ARMOR PIERCING

2) Warcried the $hit outta the jedi, then intimidated him dizzy and lunge, BTW hes TKM/Master Fencer/Master brawler4140 Medic

3) Pwned the jedi with scatter hit

the jedi did 12% less dmg cause of the light armor rating, and he floped like a fishey.

so yes, armor actually does mean something against a jedi in PvP, even if it has 0% lightsaber

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Do you just make stuff up or what? Both of the highlighted parts are BS, jedi do not get to choose teh AP on their saber, thats like saying some guy had an AP0 T21, and wth is up with your random 12% statement, that makes no sense mathmatically nor does it follow game mechanics.

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/agree

For AP to work...the opponent must be wearing ARMOR. A t21 AP3 rifle will not do 50% or w/e the mod is more than a cdef with same stats on an unarmored opponent.

Same with sabers.

Your friend is an idiot Jei.

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RoadBurner wrote:

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Blardin wrote:

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JeiTakabura wrote:

a good friend of mine has a Stun baton with 655 max dmg, with a pup of corse, he fought a master healer/saber/4004 enhancer jedi on his own, heres the thing he did,

1)Wore bone armor - yeah, have a good laugh, because it was interwoven bone armor, it has light armor rating and is sliced for encum, this jedi's saber had NO ARMOR PIERCING

2) Warcried the $hit outta the jedi, then intimidated him dizzy and lunge, BTW hes TKM/Master Fencer/Master brawler4140 Medic

3) Pwned the jedi with scatter hit

the jedi did 12% less dmg cause of the light armor rating, and he floped like a fishey.

so yes, armor actually does mean something against a jedi in PvP, even if it has 0% lightsaber

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Do you just make stuff up or what? Both of the highlighted parts are BS, jedi do not get to choose teh AP on their saber, thats like saying some guy had an AP0 T21, and wth is up with your random 12% statement, that makes no sense mathmatically nor does it follow game mechanics.

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/agree

For AP to work...the opponent must be wearing ARMOR. A t21 AP3 rifle will not do 50% or w/e the mod is more than a cdef with same stats on an unarmored opponent.

Same with sabers.

Your friend is an idiot Jei.

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I think I know what he means here.

Armor piercing versus Armor Rating, right? Compare the two, and if AP is higher, you get a 50% damage bonus per level (or whatever the mod is) higher that the AP is over the AR. So, A T21, for example, against a person in composite (or any player armor..its all AR1) gets a 50% damage bonus, and another 50% damage bonus. HOWEVER, there's a little bug that I'm pretty sure has not ever been fixed that relates to all of this. If something is VULNERABLE, the armor piercing bonus somehow doesn't apply. In other words, a jedi should get a damage bonus to an unarmored (or armored, doesn't matter) player, but they don't.

Of course, I could be wrong here too. I'm not entirely sure.

> Armor piercing versus Armor Rating, right? Compare the two, and if AP is higher, you get a
> 50% damage bonus per level (or whatever the mod is) higher that the AP is over the AR

Is that still true? According to the FAQ it isn't supposed to work that way. Indeed it seems illogical for it to work that way.

That FAQ entry was posted over a year ago and the system was slated for change. Was it changed (fixed)?

> HOWEVER, there's a little bug that I'm pretty sure has not ever been fixed that relates to
> all of this. If something is VULNERABLE, the armor piercing bonus somehow doesn't apply.

If the system really does work as intended, the above is not a bug.

> Of course, I could be wrong here too. I'm not entirely sure.

Ditto.

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JeiTakabura wrote:

yes Torael, thats what i mean.

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If that actually works lol....

I poked my Rifleman buddy - clad in padded armour - with a vibro lance (electricity damage, AP1) and an long vibro axe (kinetic, AP2). We certainly got the impression that damage was not increased by 25% when I used the LVA. A controlled experiment with Numbers and Calculations will follow, unless someone can point to the research already having been done.