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Thread: Fencer VS Jedi
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GarronDarkweaver
Sun Dec 26, 2004 7:06 pm
#1
I am currently a BH/Swordsman and its very effective vs jedi but i have had a thought.
Jedi Dont wear armour, fencers only weakness is their lack of an ap 1 weapon and the common nature of stun armour now.
What about an acklay gad batton vs a jedi ?
Fencers have the best defs, dodge and excellent state inflicting abilities and also require the least amount of monetary investment alongside tkm.
Has anyone here fought a jedi with fencer and a good gad batton ? If so how did you fair ? Do you think i would be viable option ?
D3st0r
Sun Dec 26, 2004 7:35 pm
#2
I can take on a high level Jedi char, even the master defense jedi, with my master pistoleer/0/0/4/0 BH and 0/3/4/0 fencer, but I use mind poisons. For a total jedi killing build, get a really nice acklay gaffi and master fencer plus something else, you'll tear Jedi a new one.
GarronDarkweaver
Sun Dec 26, 2004 9:48 pm
#3
Im hopefully getting hold of a 350-520 gad 
That should do the trick right ?
That should do the trick right ?Do you think given the defensive advantages of fencer coupled with this weapon would make me more sucessful than i would be as a speed capped swordsman ?
IbenP
Sun Dec 26, 2004 11:01 pm
#4
I myself have been a fencer for a very long time on bria. I have killed quite a few Jedi using my awful stun bat (208/251). I have heard that you can do even better with a gaffi. I think another thing that will cause a jedi to lose is being TKM along with M Fencer, the def vs. knockdown is unreal, and makes it almost impossable to knock me down. Good luck
minimanic
Mon Dec 27, 2004 5:33 am
#5
I only ever use a Gaffi baton with jedi and have on numerous occasions beaten knights of both factions (duels in most cases - but not all)
Also duel unarmoured - all armour gives you is encumberance against jedi.
Its a 282-432 acklay baton (i dont bother putting a power up on it) - only prerequisite for me against good PvP knights is make sure my mind is well buffed (music/dance, ahrisa) and a synth steak (with room left to take one mid fight)
The constant heals from states and to their HAM drains the force pool quite quickly - then they're yours!
Good luck!
Manic'
Eclipse
GarronDarkweaver
Tue Dec 28, 2004 10:27 am
#6
Thanks for the help guys, managed to secure a defence/dodge/speed/acc suit and a 350-520 stun batton or there abouts so ill be whacking them down soon
ErikStara
Tue Dec 28, 2004 11:53 am
#7
LoL fencer is decent vs jedi but tkm is much better a tkm trickshot build is much better than a fencer trickshot.
I can beat jedi most any jedi on my server as long as im synthed i have mind buffs and I have luck my gaffi stick it prittie decent but not in the 400 max's what you need to do is keep them on the floor fencer has no kd attacks unless your master brawler so what i do is I run around we do not have toughness like tk does we have dodge and moving around reduces oponents accuracy. if you stand there and try to take them ehad on you will lose. you dizzy them you lunge them then when thay are on the floor *because thay chase you when you dizzy posture change thay will still be running and kd themselves* you spam dizzy if hes lucky he will get a lucky stand and you rinse and repeat thsi does not work against all jedi some like defenders cant be dizzied easily but thay have weaknesses like stackers use dots dots are an essential part of any fencer templete stack a couple of janta knives nad he has a prittie nice tick keep him intimidated and blinded and try to get them kd'd..
But likeI said a TKM a normal one with trickshot for kd defense will rip a jedi apart without all the running around or strategizing or anything..
Torael
Tue Dec 28, 2004 5:39 pm
#10
I do fairly well one on one against most Jedi. I'm Master Rifleman/Master Fencer/Pistoleer 0040, with Medic 0140 as well. I use a 282-523 Stun Baton on both Jedi and non-jedi.
It's easiest when they use their polearm saber, because they basically can't knock me down and dizzy me - at least not both at once - and have difficulty applying most any other state too. Medic 0140 with +25 Injury/Wound Treatment pants means I heal for about 2k or more, and of course I'm not very easy to hit, either...I do get hit, but certainly not every time. My 'weakness' really is that I only have Lunge1 for a posture down, but I still do pretty well against them.
The jedi who are bright enough to use their 1h sabers are a lot worse, since I can't heal my mind. In this case I'll pop a Synthsteak, a Muon, and a 49 or 50 fill Vercupeti; damage reduction, plus an extra 1500 mind, with enough room left over for another Synth. Its still not easy, though.
Overall, in my opinion, Pikeman or TKM really is still better as a Jedi Killer.
GarronDarkweaver
Wed Dec 29, 2004 12:19 pm
#11
Thanks for the advise there torael
I have been all of the melee professions now in my time on the game, numerouse times in fact and i think ill go fencer again My only real reason is that it was my favourite of all back when no one used it and it was descent enough to pvp on a large scale with. I still think that i will out perform a tk, possibly not a pikeman though vs jedi as im a bh as well and so will only be targeting light jedi knights
My only real reason is that it was my favourite of all back when no one used it and it was descent enough to pvp on a large scale with. I still think that i will out perform a tk, possibly not a pikeman though vs jedi as im a bh as well and so will only be targeting light jedi knights I dont really intend to pve or pvp against non jedi so fencer it is for now ill keep a bit of my swords speed just incase mind.
ill keep a bit of my swords speed just incase mind.
kAotiC_HeRo
Fri Dec 31, 2004 4:44 am
#12
If you would like to know about good Fencer builds there is a link in my sig to my guide on PvP as a Fencer
JeiTakabura
Sat Jan 01, 2005 4:05 am
#13
a good friend of mine has a Stun baton with 655 max dmg, with a pup of corse, he fought a master healer/saber/4004 enhancer jedi on his own, heres the thing he did,
1)Wore bone armor - yeah, have a good laugh, because it was interwoven bone armor, it has light armor rating and is sliced for encum, this jedi's saber had NO ARMOR PIERCING
2) Warcried the $hit outta the jedi, then intimidated him dizzy and lunge, BTW hes TKM/Master Fencer/Master brawler4140 Medic
3) Pwned the jedi with scatter hit
the jedi did 12% less dmg cause of the light armor rating, and he floped like a fishey.
so yes, armor actually does mean something against a jedi in PvP, even if it has 0% lightsaber 
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