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Thread: The final Weapon for a Fencer. Should it be changed?

Talon_Nightwing
Mon Dec 15, 2003 7:17 pm
#14

Since when is a Cutlass a Fencing weapon? A cutlass is a short, wide bladed sword often used by pirates because it can be swung around in confined spaces....



I think they ought to at least make the Rantok craftable. Compare it's stats with the other NPC grade sword stats, and it would be potent.



Stun Batons are not worth a whole lot, no armor resists stun, but Composite armor has a light rating, and Vibro blades have light AP, so, as far as I can tell, it is less effective than the stats say.... But say they are resisting half your damage, what is the point of switching to a weapon that they have 0 resist to, but does half the damage of your original, and has more HAM cost? Only time I have ever done more damage with a Stun Baton was against someone with some really buffed up Adv Ubese, and it wasn't that big a difference...

morticide
Tue Dec 16, 2003 7:16 am
#15

yeah, i'd like to see the curved sword get an upgrade - i mean it's not *that* much different than a 2handed curved sword, so why is one AP2 and the other AP0? bump the dmg a little and give it AP1



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HoboFish
Tue Dec 16, 2003 7:58 am
#16

the light armor on composite doesnt affect the stunner. stunner goes totally through 100% damage. i love the stunner but its killed me more than once due to the mind costs when i forgot to pop a corellian icecream.




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Taduc
Tue Dec 16, 2003 9:53 am
#17

I would like to see the curved sword go to light armor piercing.



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Eriol74
Tue Dec 16, 2003 10:18 am
#18

I have to say that after getting to novice fencer that ALL the weapons for this class suck. I mean, c'mon, I miss more with all the 1-hand weapons than I ever did with a power hammer or a long vibro-axe, and the damage is pathetic compared to the other melee classes. I'm trying to force myself up the tree as a seconday class for the defensive gains but getting xpseems reallypainful compared to any other combat class - and i'vedabbled in themallexcept carbineer so far.

gozarian
Tue Dec 16, 2003 12:49 pm
#19

I am all for rapier and/or sabers. Vibro versions should be included into the actual profession of fencer, and the more archaic version in brawler.


A cutllass would be nice for those playing smugglers as well.

Awon
Wed Dec 17, 2003 5:10 am
#20

Um dousnt a cutlass look almost the same as a ryyk blade duh. Anyways dont consintrate on the title fencer to much when you think about weapons because every culture basically called one handed combat fencing. A rapiar dousnt seem praticle against armor such as comp. I would like a new final weapon or at least increase the damage on the stun baton because im seeing more and more stun layered comp. A bigger stronger version of the vibroblade would be nice.
Minerunner
Wed Dec 17, 2003 5:22 am
#21

Hmmm Vibro Sword would be most suggestable... Just make it a one handed version of the 2Handed Cleaver Graphic.... give it.. AP 1, and Gad Bat Stats.


Simple Generic and very little work for the art department... they just scale and adjust one graphic, Coders only need to fill in a new set of componant checks for crafting... but this has got to be down to just a DB entry screen fill in the blanks by now. And cut and paste Experimentation logarithm from GadBat.


Bet you 100 creds it would take 2 people all of 30 minutes each, then it would go into testing for a week and because the Gad Bat code is really solid it would get to us by the new year.


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Shann0w
Wed Dec 17, 2003 9:16 am
#22

One of my accounts is a master armorsmith.


There is a Stun layer that can be added to Tantel, Ubese, Padded, or composite armor. Most players that ask me about armor want their armor maxxed out for kinetic or acid. Very few follow my advice and settle for lower but broader protection. Stun layers have been rare on Wanderhome because they require Crism Siliclastic Ore which only recently appeared for the first time in about 90 days.


A friend of mine showed me something I was totally amazed by. She got all 9 stats buffed, put on a suit of composite that had 80% vs kinetic. Then she went out and Tanked a Kimogila lair by herself using a power hammer. Heck I got killed once just trying to watch. She tried that against some Dark Troopers using stun batons and she didn't last long...

Neyland
Wed Dec 17, 2003 11:07 am
#23

Fencer = ALL ONE HANDED WEAPONS (except nucklers).


I'd much rather swap damage on curved sword with the pimp schtick.


But I really think people need to get the idea of an actual foil fencer out of their heads. Fencer is master of all one handed weapons. Swordsmen are masters of all weapons heavy enough to require two hands to physically wield.


Sooo onehanded...


gopher chukes, katanas, dagger, electro whip, tomahawk, Kama, cutlas...


and yes... for the love of pete.... DUAL WIELD!!! Of all the professions, one handed experts should get bonuses for dual wielding some items....




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RobbPilot
Wed Dec 17, 2003 2:03 pm
#24






Taduc wrote:
I would like to see the curved sword go to light armor piercing.




And like I said yesterday, the only purpose for the design of a weapon like the gaderiffi was to pierce armor helmets or breastplates with the spikeand deliver a massive kinetic shock wound (stun)... often times crushing the skull and causing fatal brain damage. In this game, it neither stuns nor pierces armor... it just does good kinetic damage.
AltairPolluxRigel
Wed Dec 17, 2003 2:45 pm
#25

remember! if the curved sword went to AP1, it won't give extra damage to unarmored opponents.



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MarshalCreed
Thu Dec 18, 2003 1:19 am
#26

If you join a fencing club there are three weapons you can train on, the foil, epee and saber (or was it cutass), anyway, it is a one handed sword relying on speed and accuracy (i.e. talent) more than strength. I thinkg the devs got that right but the weapons they chose are not as represtentative. However, they are limited to using Star Wars type weapons so where do we go from here.



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