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Thread: CU Fencer Role

TalusianRogue
Tue Mar 29, 2005 11:19 pm
#14

Do any of the old combat animations remain?



Ko'c
Who the ***edit*** codes this game?

kAotiC_HeRo
Tue Mar 29, 2005 11:33 pm
#15






tohrazer wrote:





TheFightingCorcoran wrote:





tohrazer wrote:

nerfing our tanking


basically, we will have the third best damage, our damage (bleeds) will suck in the DWB (you cant bleed anything there, its all droids) we cant take hits anymore - Jedi will still remain the main PVE damage dealers no doubt


why the heck would anyont take a fencer into the DWB now?


atleast before we could tank 'decently', now we cant tank, we get hurt like we're made out of glass, and we will still get outdamaged by other professions, in situations like the dwb, nobody wants the 'ok all round characters' they want the ones that cant tank the best to tank, the ones that can heal the best to heal, and the ones that can damage the best to damage, and we cant even bleed droids...


what will be our use in the DWB? as a DWB fanactic and a fencer fanatic these changes really put the nail in the coffin for me which sucks as i love the game as it is atm







1) Fencers were terrible tanks to begin with, sorry, we are(not even comparable to a swordsman or TKM).
2) You have skillpoints left to combine other professions, filling the defense hole.
3) Would you rather be a tank that does no damage or a semi-decent tank(we wont be TERRIBLE as tanks...)that can hit like a banshee.

I know how you feel, I too am a DWB junkie(read sig) but this is actually better for us. We just might be formible damage dealers. Combining with a prof like TKM might fill in the defense hole.



fencers are amazing tanks, i can tank krayts unbuffed (and no, not only the crap ones)







TK's and Swordsman are the only TRUE tankers in the system now...

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TheFightingCorcoran
Tue Mar 29, 2005 11:46 pm
#16



kAotiC_HeRo wrote:


tohrazer wrote:


TheFightingCorcoran wrote:


tohrazer wrote:
nerfing our tanking
basically, we will have the third best damage, our damage (bleeds) will suck in the DWB (you cant bleed anything there, its all droids) we cant take hits anymore - Jedi will still remain the main PVE damage dealers no doubt
why the heck would anyont take a fencer into the DWB now?
atleast before we could tank 'decently', now we cant tank, we get hurt like we're made out of glass, and we will still get outdamaged by other professions, in situations like the dwb, nobody wants the 'ok all round characters' they want the ones that cant tank the best to tank, the ones that can heal the best to heal, and the ones that can damage the best to damage, and we cant even bleed droids...
what will be our use in the DWB? as a DWB fanactic and a fencer fanatic these changes really put the nail in the coffin for me which sucks as i love the game as it is atm





1) Fencers were terrible tanks to begin with, sorry, we are(not even comparable to a swordsman or TKM).
2) You have skillpoints left to combine other professions, filling the defense hole.
3) Would you rather be a tank that does no damage or a semi-decent tank(we wont be TERRIBLE as tanks...)that can hit like a banshee.

I know how you feel, I too am a DWB junkie(read sig) but this is actually better for us. We just might be formible damage dealers. Combining with a prof like TKM might fill in the defense hole.

fencers are amazing tanks, i can tank krayts unbuffed (and no, not only the crap ones)



HA! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Thanks for the good laugh... TK's and Swordsman are the only TRUE tankers in the system now...

HAHAHAHA wow...






Well not terrible, but not as good as a TKM or swordsman.

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kAotiC_HeRo
Tue Mar 29, 2005 11:47 pm
#17

True True... But Unbuffed... that's just wrong...



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tohrazer
Wed Mar 30, 2005 12:22 am
#18






kAotiC_HeRo wrote:

True True... But Unbuffed... that's just wrong...






whys it wrong? - come on chimaera, i'll show you, any fencer with compo can do it- i fail to see how you can mock the tanking ability of a profession that can tank krayts unbuffed...

Message Edited by tohrazer on 03-29-2005 11:24 PM



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TheFightingCorcoran
Wed Mar 30, 2005 12:28 am
#19



tohrazer wrote:


kAotiC_HeRo wrote:
True True... But Unbuffed... that's just wrong...



whys it wrong? - come on chimaera, i'll show you, any fencer with compo can do it - i fail to see how you can mock the tanking ability of a profession that can tank krayts unbuffed...

Message Edited by tohrazer on 03-29-2005 11:24 PM





Any melee prof can tank. Im comparing the melee profs to each other.




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tohrazer
Wed Mar 30, 2005 12:36 am
#20






TheFightingCorcoran wrote:





tohrazer wrote:






kAotiC_HeRo wrote:

True True... But Unbuffed... that's just wrong...






whys it wrong? - come on chimaera, i'll show you, any fencer with compo can do it - i fail to see how you can mock the tanking ability of a profession that can tank krayts unbuffed...

Message Edited by tohrazer on 03-29-2005 11:24 PM






Any melee prof can tank. Im comparing the melee profs to each other.





i reckon i can out tank a swordsman besides it doesnt really matter, we're all stackers anyways...



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TheFightingCorcoran
Wed Mar 30, 2005 12:40 am
#21



tohrazer wrote:


TheFightingCorcoran wrote:


tohrazer wrote:


kAotiC_HeRo wrote:
True True... But Unbuffed... that's just wrong...



whys it wrong? - come on chimaera, i'll show you, any fencer with compo can do it - i fail to see how you can mock the tanking ability of a profession that can tank krayts unbuffed...

Message Edited by tohrazer on 03-29-2005 11:24 PM





Any melee prof can tank. Im comparing the melee profs to each other.


i reckon i can out tank a swordsman besides it doesnt really matter, we're all stackers anyways...





BH/fencer here...I wish I could be a stacker again .

On paper swordsman is a better tank. They have more toughness.




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tohrazer
Wed Mar 30, 2005 12:52 am
#22

minerunner, after the CU if we use defense stacks from other profs, will we basically tank just as well as they do? cos right now mbrawler/mfencer/tka 0302/novice pikeman/loads of other crap i dont need


im over my melee defense cap now anyways, but thats counting the +20 from force melee defense



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0010111111101000100011011101011011011
0100100110111110011101100101000001001 Mastertank - DWB Vet
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Rimy
Wed Mar 30, 2005 9:30 am
#23



TheFightingCorcoran wrote:
1) Fencers were terrible tanks to begin with, sorry, we are(not even comparable to a swordsman or TKM).
2) You have skillpoints left to combine other professions, filling the defense hole.
3) Would you rather be a tank that does no damage or a semi-decent tank(we wont be TERRIBLE as tanks...)that can hit like a banshee.

I know how you feel, I too am a DWB junkie(read sig) but this is actually better for us. We just might be formible damage dealers. Combining with a prof like TKM might fill in the defense hole.




1) sorry Raptor, but I completely disagree. My best example was my Monday trip to the DWB. The two fencers were by far better tankers than either TKM or the swordsman we had with us.

2) true

3) that's pretty much what we were, at least that's how my toon played. Our weapons are awful compared to everyone but tk's, and most of the time, in groups, I just stood there and held off players/npcs for the damage dealers. We're fast, but so are TK's.

4) also true, but I currently only have one combat prof, and really wanted to keep it that way. In PvP, I serve my guild by tanking/healing. With the CU changes, we'll all have some figuring out to do, and I'm not going to make any rash changes. However, I don't see any real need in PvP group combat for hybrid combat toons.



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PoppaBear
Wed Mar 30, 2005 9:50 am
#24

I'll say one thing: being a Fencer is going to be a hell of a challenge, now. Then again, I feel all folks who are Fencers now, love challenges. We know what we can and can't tank, but we try to find ways to prove others wrong. We deal low damage, but with our current attacks, we give people hell, and I love it.


This new system will be a challenge that I welcome, and I think many others will like it as well.




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UbifaA
Wed Mar 30, 2005 12:40 pm
#25

/agree ^


i have a Fencer on Intrepid that is currently doing the FS grind. I am no longer sure i want to finish this grind as it sounds like Fencer is going to be a fun and respected profession


i guess time will tell.


my biggest concersn are like what Raptor said, AA's and CA's. Too many people have invested millions into skilltapes to just throw them away...surely the devs are aware of this


GG Minrunner for answering these questions
Rimy
Wed Mar 30, 2005 12:43 pm
#26



UbifaA wrote:
/agree ^
i have a Fencer on Intrepid that is currently doing the FS grind. I am no longer sure i want to finish this grind as it sounds like Fencer is going to be a fun and respected profession
i guess time will tell.
my biggest concersn are like what Raptor said, AA's and CA's. Too many people have invested millions into skilltapes to just throw them away...surely the devs are aware of this
GG Minrunner for answering these questions





I'm sure they're aware but, as they've said time and again, any investment ingame is risky. It might just be a moneysink in their attempts to get the economies under control. Just a thought, anyway.



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