Entertainer Archive

Inside my heart is breaking, my make-up may be flaking
But my smile still stays on
My soul is painted like the wings of butterflies
Fairytales of yesterday will grow but never die
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Fact is this. When buffers were live onlyit was a pain in the ass to get buffed. The people who were "live" often went afk or lied about their buff ability, or charged too much or were unavailable, or had to ask thier group leader to invite you and he was afk, etc.

I dont want to sit there for 30 mins waiting for you t figure out **edit** is up. In and out. Afk bots do that.

Thats one reason im making my own. No one is reliable and I hate depending on others in game cause 3/4 times they screw things up.

"For our fight is not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against rulers of darkness of this world, and against spiritual wickedness in high places."

Nerve'Agent

lol I have the same problem with trying to keep up with what's going on. I recently moved all my system messages to a separate chat tab and put that tab off to the side of my screen. I then went in and altered the color of the "tips you" chat so that those messages are bright yellow. It helps a lot! Now I can more easily send a /tell X thanks message when I get a tip.

Ikewe, Master Dancer Shadowfire

Inside my heart is breaking, my make-up may be flaking
But my smile still stays on
My soul is painted like the wings of butterflies
Fairytales of yesterday will grow but never die
I can fly - my friendsSWG Entertainer.com Fashions by TK

hehe, that's okay Tiaga. Wait until he learns the hard way that the buffing code is bugged and his buffs fail too

Ikewe, Master Dancer Shadowfire

I can't speak for anyone else either, but if I'm not actively playing the game, I'm not skill animating, period. I'm sitting down in a chair or acorner, after announcing in group and guildchat that I'm stepping away for a few minutes.

I still feel strongly that any time an entertainer is skill animating while AFK they are adding to the harm done to our professions. Play the game. And at times that one is not playing the game, stop pretending to be playing the game through macros. Stop devaluing the entertainer professions even more than they already have been. Stop being a part of the problem.

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I also oppose players being AFK for extended times as I have seen the "three stooges review" that it tends to become. I've witnessed countless times entertainers trying to get training or invites from a group of robots, zombies, afkers... (whatever you want to call them). yes SWG is a game. For me a game is meant to be *played* not endured, not cycled automatically, but actually played. Otherwise what exactly is the point? Yes being a Master Musician or Dancer does change some aspects of your play especially if you wear your tag or have your name included in the search feature. But it doesn't change your "role" in the galaxy. You are still an entertainer. I found that all the time I spent working toward Master Dancer by being a good entertainer has helped people remember me. I think that's one reason I tend to get a lot of tells asking for healing or buffing. People know that if they approach me I am going to be there. Not at work, not mowing the lawn.. not doing any of the myriad of things that aresomething other thanplaying SWG.

If someone chooses to be a robot in this game there's not much I can do about that except wish/hope they'll change their minds. There are some really great roleplayers out here who make the game interesting and fun. AFK robots are neither interesting nor fun.. well they do make great joke material and sometimes we use them as props...

Like the original poster, I too use the recursive macro for my dance routines. It makes my life easier but I've also recently used the long macro that at the end reminds me to hit the button again and had no problems with that. Though I read recently that instead of getting rid of that macro function the devs were considering a time-out feature. I'd certainly prefer a time out feature (assuming it actually works) but suspect we aren't going to see any changes in the near future so in the meantime I intend to keep playing and having fun.

Ikewe, Master Dancer Shadowfire

If you hate dependency, I recommend getting more then one new account. You'll need at least one of every master available to your main character.

I hope you like paying 15 or more a month to play a multiplayer game that will never be what you want it to be. You should probably try picking up one of themany single player games, that way you only have to rely on yourself.

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Adolai Danst - Dead Man Walking & Master Musician / Master Entertainer / Master Artisan

^_^ Hee hee!! I had no idea you guys were still going at it. Let's just leave it at.....whatever floats your boat; ok? Regardless of whether AFK'ing "harms" the profession....and I'm not saying it doesn't, but like I said in the beginning no one should have the right to tell someone how to play a "game". Thank you!! :: bows to rosaria :: You rock!!

.::. Laurelin (Ahazi) & Chiii (Bria) .::.

ive read some of these threads and call me dense but i still cant see your problem with afk players. some of you say there just distroying the game but have no idea why. its like watching a group of old women gossiping about the one who isnt there that day. i see some of you crying that the buff bots are making players think they should get buffs when "they" want them not when you want to buff them. i was a doc and am now a be and dangit i couldnt get those other players to buy buffs unless they wanted them, still cant get the ch's to buy my pets when i want them to, they think there my customers or something. buff bots serve a purpose in the game. they perform a function that wasnt being performed. if you bother to take a shuttle to some of the outer planets you would find a great need for your services. ahh but i forget you only buff when you choose to and no one tells you they need a buff when they want it, thus the buff bots. if entertainers were performing the buffs then buff bots wouldnt be necissary and wouldnt be here. i try always to get buffs from atk players before i use a bot, unfortunatly its rare when i can get a player to buff me. your happy about the recuring macro leaving, lol i hope so because as a former doc and now a be i can say tell hell is real and there is no conversation when your answering tells the whole time your online explaining why its taking so long, where are you, how much do you charge, and any number of other questions. as far as how you feel the game should be played well thats your opinion if soe finds a way to stop recuring macros i think you will find out how unpopular that opinion is to the majority of players. the sad truth is that buff bots are here because entertainers werent where they were needed or werent providing the service their designed to provide. if you want to chit chat and thats why you chose entertainer roughly 75% of the cantinas on every server are dead empty, just have your chat group go to any one of them they arevery peacefull because no one goes to them. especially entertainers lol they wouldnt be caught dead in nyms cantina, or on yavin, endor, most of dath. or most of dantooine. the buff bots will be there tho and they wont ignore you when you ask for a buff when you need it.

badgic, actually there are quite a few of us, myself included, who will drop what I am doing to buff orheal people on the remote planets. I've danced in every remote cantina - including Nym's. What's frustrating for me is that in some locations on my server if there's a buff bot players will go straight for the robot. No pause, no look, no nothing. Half the time theystand right on top of me while they yell "can someone invite me to the Xbot's group?". On my server bots were created as a means of quick and easy credits plain and simple. They don't care about providing a service - which is why they prevent people who fail topay from ever getting a buff from them again. Our problem with the afk entertainers and robot buffers is fairly straight forward. By creating a job that you can perform without actually being there, you reduce the entire profession to a bunch of robots. Players no longer look at us as people providing a support role. They now simply look at us (and treat us) as NPC's. And it's understandable. If you spend hours having to run across a hazardous planet trying to collect DNA from animals you don't want to come into a cantina and see someone who's making several hundred thousand credits while their "puppetmaster" is at work or the movies or whatever. And you will begin to think that if their profession is such that their "essential" service can be provided while they aren't even ATK, then it can't be very meaningful. We chose a social, support profession in a multiplayer role playing game. We want to interact with people other than to spend hours listening tosomeone shout "the mind buff starts in 30 seconds. invite me to your group and tip me 6K" or "heal me if I need it. thx!" Again, if someone choses to be a robot there's nothing I can do about it. It's their choice. I just don't understand the point to paying for a multiplayer roleplaying game if you aren't going to interact with the players or roleplay.

Ikewe, Master Dancer (without ever, not for one second gone AFK while continuing to dance- you can actually stop skill animating and just step to the side for those few moments) Shadowfire

Inside my heart is breaking, my make-up may be flaking
But my smile still stays on
My soul is painted like the wings of butterflies
Fairytales of yesterday will grow but never die
I can fly - my friendsSWG Entertainer.com Fashions by TK

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