Entertainer Archive
Thread: Hello Everyone ! and what are your issues ?
While I appreciate the efforrt put in to devising a system of songs and flourishes that sound fun and let the casual player enjoy being an entertainer, I'd love to see the ability for my character to actualy play real notes.
Was this ever explored in beta or discussed as a possiblity? A simple 3 octave western scale would be 36 notes. With the amazing amount of socials, flourishes, songs and macros in the game, I'm wondering if the devs couldn't find room for this. That way, instead of introducing a new song or two in every other expansion pack, they could give us the abilty to play real music. Think of what bands and groups could do with real notes. The entertainers could really entertain! Would it be possible to get some feedback from the devs regarding this? Thanks,
Invasive Meme
Scylla
I posted this on the musician board too but thought it was worth putting on this board.
My number 1 and only request is one new song for newbies - just 1 - something entirely different that sw1
Hi Everyone
Well the first part of this post is directed at Ka's. Ka's, well bless your heart, that is very sweet and generous of you to say that Master Entertainers should get a second song, or what not, but, we do indeed get two items. May not really seem like it to some folks, but we get the ceremonial song, which on a bandfill, I have been told by many people, sounds like a western tune, and we get the really Awesome Mandovil. I love my Mand, and speaking for myself, am happy with it as is. If we can get additions, great, but I am not unhappy with it the way it is.
Ok, now to some other issues.....
Yes, for the love of Ewoks, give image designers, smaller if neccessary, the same interface as the creation screen. Its horrible to have to make changes as they are now. It almost like shooting in the dark and wondering if you hit anyting.
And by golly, please fix the stuttering dance moves. Its horrible to be a tier 4 dancer and appear to restart the same move four times in a row. Its really not great for either the dancer, or the customer.
And last, I like the idea that was presented about changing the pitch of a song. That would be a fantastic addition and with a good group of entertainers who had actually practiced together, make some really, really nice sounding songs, and even "concerts" for those empty theatres?
Ok, enough from me, I need to go play....
Durney Kova - Master Entertainer / Master Musican - Lowca
P.S. Hey Ka's to bad yer not on Lowca...if ya ever are, come to the Bestine area, thats where I am usually prowling around at , and I will buy ya a Jawa Beer
I like the idea of a /tipgroup I think it should be /tipgroup and the name of one of the players in that group so that the entire group gets the creds but I also think that /tip and players name should stay because while I may want to tip the entire group 100 creds that dancer/musician I might want to tip extra because she talked to me and was nice. Atleast that's how I feel aboutit.
I've had a number ofpatron ask me if tips where split between thegroup I've had to tell them"no but if you want I willsplit the tip out" that way he can get back out to his missions and such rather then him taking his time out to try and make sure we all got a tip. It's no biggie I'm not doing anything but chatting and hitting my hotkeys to flourish but is the /tipgroup was there then the patrons could be sure ther\ir money was distributed the way they want it to be.
I have to say, the most irritating thing at the moment from my point of view is the amount of afk musicians. Kinda gives those of us who try hard to put on a good show a bad name. So I do like the auto log-out option for people just standing there, or looping it with macros.
Of course, I'm just bitter because they're all more experienced than me! 
1) /Grouplisten & /grouptip
2) You should add more cool songs per each level
3) Maybe add some song Remix beats for novice entertainers too
Kwee'stop ten:
1)/grouptip
2)/denyhealing - If someone is harassing me they shouldn't get healed by me and I shouldn't have to stop dancing
3)Fix /bandflourish - Noone wants to bandflourish anymore now that only the band flourisher gets exp. The change was put in because the entertainer dev said it didn't fit his vision of all the musicians taking part in the band flourishing, andpracticing combos together. Another problem is that most people (particularly the casual players they want to cater too) don't have time to work out band flourishes with fellow musicians/dancers, and people travel a lot, not necessarily always with the same gang. If entertainer dev insists on forcing musicians to coordinate with each other on flourishes (and let me again say that his enforcing of that has backfired and is cruel imo) he should not enforce it on dancers as well. Dancers should have a separate /danceflourish command that one person can lead while all dancers get exp. If the /bandflourish betanerf was done to prevent afk'ing while someone flourishes for you, it is my opinion that the entertainers can take care of that on their own, we can just kick them out. A good dancer/musiican will use the time off (while someone else bandflourishes) to chat with customers, /sing, or /rap, etc. Band flourishes are usually premacroed anyway It's not like most band leaders are sitting there figuring out good combos on the spot. If a band wants to coordinate band flourishes, always plays together, and enjoys doing so, great! But make sure they all get experience for their efforts, and don't try to force us all to do so, it's not going to happen, and for dancers, it's flat unfair.
4)/changekey - My father in law (irl) was a musician in beta, and no longer plays one post release. Why? No key changes (and no stringed instruments for non master entertainers). Mom in law and I miss him in the cantina, please fix this. It all sounds good to me, but real life musicians are very annoyed by the lack of key changes.
5)Max exp for all dances - musicians have this by way of playing their best instrument. Please provide a way for dancers to be able to dance any dance and still get max exp, perhaps only if the group of dancers is band flourishing.
6)/startdancers, separate from /startband, it's silly that the band leader can stop my dancing.
7) /dropafkgroupleader, A way tochangegroup leaders (only for entertainment groups) if the group leader hasbeen afk for more than five minutes. I've about had it with afk macroing group leaders The already grouped group getting healing exp is usually not willing to reform when a newcomer arrives. The newcomer might miss out on healing exp for ridiculous amounts of time.
8/ Remove all npc's from cantinas, If they're not going to provide huge dancing areas (in place of the enormous unused bar for example), and really even if they are, they need to get rid of the awful npc's that hog room in the cantina. In some cantinas there is literally no room for some of the dances (such as formal).
9/ Image Designers - goodies not in character creation: 256 color palette would be nice, nailpolish, ability to pierce, temporary body henna tattooing, etc. Funky colored hair and body tattoos are the most requested.
10/ Image Designers - would like an interface like character creation -the current interface with slider bars and poor lighting is a nightmare.
Thanks for reading, good luck Scott.
Kwee - Starsider dancer, image designer, tailor
Saw-Lau wrote:
I have to say, the most irritating thing at the moment from my point of view is the amount of afk musicians. Kinda gives those of us who try hard to put on a good show a bad name. So I do like the auto log-out option for people just standing there, or looping it with macros.
Of course, I'm just bitter because they're all more experienced than me!
At least you're honest Saw-Lau... lol I think that is most people's hang up with AFK people -that they are all high level and the people who don't macro at all aren't, generally speaking. Being AFK is so simple at the moment, that it isn't really fair to blame it on the AFKer for taking advantage of that. Let's see, you have the option of playing SW1 all night with some newbies, or you can AFK and sleep while getting the same xp... tough choice right? Like I've said before, I don't kick them out of my groups, it gives everyone else noticeably more xp still, and what is the difference to me if they are in my group or off to the side potentially sucking up xtra healing xp. So aside from the fact that some people can't get over their jealousy issues because they can't figure out how to setup a decent macro, what should one care?
Oh and...
11/ Image Designer - /disguise, It is often requested that Image Designers be able to temporarily hide imperial/rebel-ness by doing some changes to a person's face/hair. Maybe at a limit of one hour every 24 hours of gameplay
I don't even really care about the afk issue, I do it too sometimes, BUT most of times I don't Afk. (I am active)
You know why? To me the POINT of this game is to socialize while playing a game, not to grinding XP the whole time.
Hijo wrote:
At least you're honest Saw-Lau... lol I think that is most people's hang up with AFK people -that they are all high level and the people who don't macro at all aren't, generally speaking. Being AFK is so simple at the moment, that it isn't really fair to blame it on the AFKer for taking advantage of that. Let's see, you have the option of playing SW1 all night with some newbies, or you can AFK and sleep while getting the same xp... tough choice right?
The odd thing is, I'd actually choose the former - but then I'm messed-up like that.