Entertainer Archive

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Tiaga wrote:

Alright, I try and stay out of these topics these days because they just turn into flames.....

"I do consider myself a polite AFK’er though. I never take “center stage” and I never spam."

I find this hard to believe as you are going and bumping every single post about AFK, which just keeps things going, and you are spamming the message board with repeat posts of the exact same thing. And you know what they say, actions speak louder than words.

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How is this a personal attack? it's N.O.R.M.S. based and he starts with "I" It could be better rephrased:

"I find this hard to belive. I notice you have bumped X number of posts concerning AFK in the last N days. The effect this has is to continue the debate you claim to be against. Additionally, this causes message board spam which does not further our goal of a productive community. What I'd like to see instead is constructive suggestions on how to help the situation: perhaps suggestions on how to help each side of the debate see the other side's prospective so we can come to an agreement on the issue. We value your input in the community."

Is that less of a personal attack? it's still factual, Non-judgemental, Observable, Reliable, Measurable, and Specific.

Personal attacks Taiga? Very disappointing.

Ya know I like this... "Alright, I try and stay out of these topics these days because they just turn into flames....." So what do you do? You
Flame. Talk about actions speaking louder that words!

How do you know if someone is afk or not? Because a person has an AFK flag on his head doesnt mean he is afk. He might be avoiding tells. Everyone can put an AFK flag up by simply typing /AFK.

If AFK was not allowed Musician and Dancer would take months to master. It shouldnt take that long to master these profession. As we all know healing xp takes way long and so does dancing exp. Its easy for those people that are master dancers and musicians to say get rid of afk. Because you dont care, its not you thats grinding.

Most who have the flag really are AFK. Many who do not have the flag are as well. We think they are AFK because they don't respond to tells, drift all over the place while dancing, and stop dancing to sit right after a medic heals them.

I've mastered dancer, musician, and entertainer, and I did it at the keyboard. And I would gladly do it again. You know why? Being an entertainer is the same as novice as at master, you just have a little bit bigger selection. I still play starwars1 and basic. Because I want to.

The problem isn't the macro system.The problem isn't sony. The problem is that a great deal of the people playing this game, a majority by the feel of it have a very specific attitude about what they want from this game. That attitude is simply,(I wan't to gain as much enjoyment for myself as i can from this game in a way that fits with my schedule, and i dont care if my actions detract from the game experience of others so long asI am able to get enjoyment from it.)

As long as we continue to not give a **edit** about anyone else but ourselves in a game that was designed for the player base to provide 90% of the games content its not ever going to improve no matter what features sony implements.

If it weren't for AFK'ers cantinas would look like med centers. I don't see med centers full of medics and combat medics and doctors sitting and chatting because its "fun" and thats what medical types do, wait for people needing healing to come in. No, what you see are empty medcenters everywhere because its boring as hell most of the time. Sure you get your moments where its great fun. But most people don't want to sit in a room doing nothing waiting for someone to show up. I find the time I spend in the cantinas with my entertainers great fun. But thats not where I want to spend all my time. I'd love to be able to go places and entertain, do the classic streetcorner entertainer but unfortunalty you don't get xp for that.

I keep hearing how much it pisses people off because they feel the AFK'ers aren't "earning" their xp. Does that mean that its ok as long as theres no xp involved? That if its a master thats doing it simply so that there is an entertainer there for those in need its ok? Are you willing to trash a system for those that are just trying to help? If so then thats pretty selfish on your part. If not then why can't someone want to help people out AND earn xp at the same time?

Oh and Fastus, great post. First truly constructive post on the subject I've seen so far.

i'm a marksman primarily and i have a potential solution for the afk entertainers....shoot them. or if you prefere brawling you can allways kick them i suppose (not very civilized though)

lol honestly though i make a point of not watching or listening to afk entertainers if i have the option i would rather some one who is playing gets the xp