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Thread: Mind Buffs

nahguam
Tue Oct 07, 2003 6:42 am
#14

I apologise if this has been asked before, but I can't find it.

Does buffing mind heal just mind or does it all 3 mind pools
Sinda
Wed Oct 08, 2003 6:49 am
#15






nahguam wrote:

Does buffing mind heal just mind or does it all 3 mind pools




Let's be clear. Buffing mind is very different from Healing mind.


* Anyone who /watches a dancer will have their mind wounds healed. This is a passive heal benefit that existed before today's patch and exists after. (For reference, one audience member at the last gig I performed had most of his mind bar black. I told him to target and /watch me, and after about 2 minutes flat his bar was healed! )...


* The new buffs are distinct from healing. Prior to the patch, we gave a maximum of +50% mind for a duration of 30 minutes based on a 2:1 ratio of minutes buffed: Minutes watched. All that changes now, as the buff goes to 100% and the ratio is more like 6:1. The longer you target your buffee (or your group) the longer their buff will last.


Dancers directly buff mind pool. Musicians have the same effect on Focus and Willpower, which raises mind regen and indirectly increases mind pool.





Sinda Blackstar
Master Dancer/Teras Kasi Novice
"Looking at what parts of your game players tend to automate is a good way to determine which parts of the game are tedious and/or not fun." - Raph Koster
grumpybear333
Fri Oct 10, 2003 4:09 pm
#16

-Do they persist if you take shuttle to a different planet?Thx in advance for your response.
Sylune_heart
Sat Oct 11, 2003 5:02 am
#17

Yes grumpybear they do.


They work just like doctor enhancements. The only way they go bye bye is if you Die, Logout. Or when they run out on there own.


You can take the shuttle after receiving them it doenst effect them in any way



Syl

JasonK
Sat Jan 31, 2004 12:03 pm
#18

What's the reasoning behind having the 3 different mind buffs split between musician and dancer? As a doctor, I buff a lot of people. I would guess that 80-90% of them don't bother getting minds buffs at all and just use spice and food instead. Why is that?Just to get a mind or focus/willpower buff takes what,6-10 minutes? Then to get the other buff is another6-10 minutes. That's 12-20 minutes not counting the time it takes to actually hook up witha player(s) to give you each of the buffs. Full set of doc buffs takes 90 seconds. If you can only play for a couple hours at a time, thatcan be a sizable chunk of your playing time.


And what's the reason behind mind buffs being limited to 100% of a players mind stats? As far as I know, Doc buffs don't consider the players HAM values and just spit out a somewhat random number, which can hit for 3x as much as a mind buff.


Cut down the time needed to get the buff and increase the buff strength. Then maybe you'll get more of the general population seeking you out for your services.



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Sandman1278
Sat Jan 31, 2004 12:36 pm
#19

word son word



-Sandro Isomak-

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sweatyclimber
Sat Jan 31, 2004 2:04 pm
#20

yeah the new chef food reduces it 20% so that will be nice... but a heads up for you, you can get both buffs at the same time... so if both use the chef food, it would be about 4 minutes total...



Cheers,

famousFATWOOKIE
Master musician, Master entertainer of Mos Oasis
-I support ATK people and playstyles.
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JasonK
Sat Jan 31, 2004 2:22 pm
#21






sweatyclimber wrote:
yeah the new chef food reduces it 20% so that will be nice... but a heads up for you, you can get both buffs at the same time... so if both use the chef food, it would be about 4 minutes total...






On the rare occasionyou can find two different performers that can and willbuff you at the same time.



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sweatyclimber
Sat Jan 31, 2004 2:39 pm
#22






JasonK wrote:





sweatyclimber wrote:
yeah the new chef food reduces it 20% so that will be nice... but a heads up for you, you can get both buffs at the same time... so if both use the chef food, it would be about 4 minutes total...






On the rare occasionyou can find two different performers that can and willbuff you at the same time.





kinda a "half empty" type of guy aren't ya



Cheers,

famousFATWOOKIE
Master musician, Master entertainer of Mos Oasis
-I support ATK people and playstyles.
Find FFWB Here!A SWG History
JasonK
Sat Jan 31, 2004 3:27 pm
#23

More like a 90% empty kinda guy.



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NewJedi
Sat Jan 31, 2004 4:49 pm
#24


FWIW, Monkeybox just pointed out that one of the new Food items on Test includes an enhancement to our buff speed. Maybe the wait will get shorter now. I'm going to try to test that buff-to-the-buff tonight.


Also FWIW, I have an alt who never uses spice and only occasionally uses food at the moment. He routinely seeks out a Musician buff. He doesn't need the Dancer buff; the Musician once is more important to him. I know other people who seek one buff or the other but not necessarily both.


I dunno, I have mixed feelings about whether Dancers and Musicians should have an identical buff to all three stats. As a Musician, I kind of like having a unique skill. I feel it's often hard to compete with Dancers for attention in the first place. OTOH, as a consumer of buffs, I recognize that finding two buffs (if you really need two) can be a drag. As for the devs' thinking, I don't think they've ever told me explicitly why they spit the buff up this way. My guess, though, is to promote interdependence.

Message Edited by NewJedi on 01-31-2004 03:53 PM

Kylven
Sun Feb 01, 2004 11:37 am
#25

I think the reason mind buffs take 6-10 mins is because unlike docs we don't need to spend thousands of credits scowering the galaxy for specific high quality materials. Their downside is the money it takes to create the buffs, and ours is the time it takes to apply them.
NimbusDave
Mon Feb 02, 2004 12:18 pm
#26

the 6-10 min wait to double ones focus and willpower is well worth it. Most players have a very low mind and all it takes is a few headshots from a sniper, or a couple eyeshots from a BH to take anyone out. As a mon cal, EX Bounty Hunter, I would always get mind buffs. I have all my mind stats at max so it is sick what happens to me when I buff from a master musician... 1600 focus 1200 willpower... And if I get a dancer that it buffs my mind it goes up to 2600. Add a muon gold and a powerboost and it's insane.


With Doc buffs and dancer+musician+powerboost... my ham is 3000+ 3000+ 3000+I am invincible!
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