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Thread: Droid Module Focus (Detonation): Information, discussion and bug-reporting (04/24/04)

TheRealTK421
Tue May 04, 2004 12:41 pm
#105




Jenden wrote:

These don't seem to be working quite right. I've been running some tests with some friends and it seems that about half the time the droid will say its doing damage to a nearby target (listing damage and everything in the combat spam) but the targets aren't taking any damage. Anyone else able to confirm this? I first noticed it with creatures (it didn't seem like it was taking down enough) and then ran tests against npc's so I could track the unique names.





I'll keep my eye out for this. If you see/gather more info, make sure to get it at me.


/bow

Respectfully,




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Noobiwankanoobi
Thu May 13, 2004 3:56 pm
#106

Has anyone put these in a Binary load lifter, or any non combat droid other than an MSE?





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Rev618
Fri May 21, 2004 8:35 pm
#107

I've seen a similar problem. 8 mse adv each with a 38 detontaion power were sent up against an enemy turret and all successfully blew up next to it, but NONE of them did any damage!?!


Sounds like a bug to me...I sent a bug report on it as all of you should as well



Waste93
Sat May 22, 2004 6:12 am
#108




Lonkley wrote:

armor is a comparables game

a vuln mean 100% will get through


if you have an AP(iercing) 1 weapon against AR2 armor, 50% of damage goes through

if you have an AP0 weapon against AR2 armor, 25% of damage would go through


Question may be what is the AP rating of the blast of the droid, and the AR of the turret?


If the droid is AP 0 and the turret is AR1, that would explain your 50% damage...






Here is how AP vs AR works. For every level of AP above AR you add 25% damage and it's cummalative.. So AP1 vs AR0 is 125%. AP2 vs AR0 is 156.25%, AP3 vs AR0 is 195.3% damage.

If AR is higher you reduce by 50% per step. So it's 50%, 25%, 12.5%.


If a target is vulnerable to a damage type. It is considered to be AR0. HOWEVER, you also lose any AP value. So attacking any target that is vulnerable to the damage type, gives the weapon AP0.


So if the turret is vulnerable to blast damage and the bomb droid is blast damage. You have AP0 vs AR0. So it should do base damage. If it's doing anything else, it may be a bug.



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Rev618
Sat May 22, 2004 6:24 pm
#109

I just got them to reply on the detonation module vs enemy turrets question via customer service ticket.


According to them droids with detonation modules can no longer affect enemy turrets!!


That is so weak if its true!


Jenden
Sat May 22, 2004 6:43 pm
#110
hmmm, if they put this in they did it without telling anyone... Though you can't always believe CSR's, half the time they seem to be just as clueless as we are. I don't know if I'll have a chance to test it any time soon, the smuggler I had testing it is going to be MIA for most of the summer.



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Gavvot
Wed May 26, 2004 3:16 am
#111
As I wanted ot test them myself, I reached novice smuggler.

Did some testing on trade federation victims.

Nice damage on multiple target.
1 big problem : Impossible to loot the corpse.
The game act like someone else did the killing and I'm not autorised to loot.

At such high price on resources, I would expect a little more than that. But eh, it's in line with BLL...



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Jenden
Wed May 26, 2004 9:48 am
#112
You can just do a quick AOE attack (if you can get close enough to do it without getting killed point blank area 1 works fine). As long as you hit all of the targets once yourself you will get full xp, looting, and harvesting rights.



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Droid Engineer Blue Glowy
Owner, Operator, and Founder of DarkStar Inc.
Groupy of the best band in the galaxy, Solar Flair
3D art of Jenden by Saeelwenea

Erillion
Thu May 27, 2004 1:52 am
#113

>>>


greater is the distance with the droid, lower are the damages.


>>>>


That is what I first thought too. Detailed testing here showed that damage is randomly assigned to targets in blast range, and NOT necessarily based on distance to initial explosion.


A tester reported that a stormtropper right next to the target (damage 6300 wasdamaged 2400 , while an AT ST on the edge of the group was damaged 6300.


have fun


Delos
Tarne_Monter
Thu May 27, 2004 10:33 am
#114

Noobiwankanoobi wrote:

Has anyone put these in a Binary load lifter, or any non combat droid other than an MSE?





I put one in my BLL barker droid just in case I need the datapad space.



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Kellisanth
Fri Jun 04, 2004 2:16 am
#115

Q: What is the estimated average BR (Blast Rating) of the Demo module?



I've decided to play with making some Det modules... with the various copper I've had about... Don't laugh at my Tolium... It's very sensitive to non-believers...


BR3 Thallium (OQ72, CD571), Malium OQ446, Tolium OQ3 (told you)


BR4 Thallium (OQ72, CD571), Culshion OQ925, Tolium OQ3


BR5 Mythra (CD893, OQ291), Malium OQ446, Tolium OQ3


BR6 Polysteel (CD975, OQ530), Rethin OQ922, Tolium OQ3


BR6 Polysteel (CD1000, OQ194), Culshion OQ925, Tolium OQ3


BR6 Polysteel (CD1000, OQ194), Malium OQ446, Tolium OQ3


BR7 Platinite (CD935, OQ975), Culshion OQ925, Tolium OQ3



Seems like my best so far is BR7.



CD has no relevance here, just mainly OQ or both?





Lt Charinida D'Aoyama of the Imperial Inquisition
Master Merchant, Master Droid Engineer, Master Weaponsmith
Custom Droids, Melee, and occasionaly XG Mines/C12.
No Ranged weapons. Well, maybe Scout, E11s and T-21s.
Kellisanth
Fri Jun 04, 2004 9:39 am
#116
Stacking modules do work. But, it seems like I got abonus point somewhere (unless someone made the counter miscount).




2 +3 Modules in a MSE resulted in a BR27 (13+13=26, +1)

2 +5 Modules in a MSE resulted in a BR31 (15+15=30, +1)

2 +6 Modules ina MSE resulted in a BR32 (16+16=32, +0)

+6 and +7 Module in a MSE resulted in a BR33 (16+17=32, +1)


Can anyone tell me why I got one point difference?


(still trying to figure out a reasonable price, no matter the BR)




Lt Charinida D'Aoyama of the Imperial Inquisition
Master Merchant, Master Droid Engineer, Master Weaponsmith
Custom Droids, Melee, and occasionaly XG Mines/C12.
No Ranged weapons. Well, maybe Scout, E11s and T-21s.
Kellisanth
Fri Jun 04, 2004 9:43 am
#117

Bah, can't edit... hit submit before I proofread myself...



+6 and +7 Module in a MSE resulted in BR33 (16+17=33, +0)



Is it because anything lower than BR5 will result in a the little bonus or what?



(Blast Rating or Detonation Rating... Hrmm... too many names one can use)






Lt Charinida D'Aoyama of the Imperial Inquisition
Master Merchant, Master Droid Engineer, Master Weaponsmith
Custom Droids, Melee, and occasionaly XG Mines/C12.
No Ranged weapons. Well, maybe Scout, E11s and T-21s.
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