Droid Engineer Archive
Thread: I guess the worst they can do is ban me
Thunderheart wrote:
I believe, as a fan who has been around since day one, that by the end of the summer, this game is really going to be incredible fun. When that happens, everyone will have a little more faith in the process and be a little more comfortable in the game.
Excuse me if I dont hang around till then.
Thunderheart wrote:
I believe, as a fan who has been around since day one, that by the end of the summer, this game is really going to be incredible fun.
I will copy this qoute and save it for the next months
"I believe, as a fan who has been around since day one, that by the end of the summer, this game is really going to be incredible fun."
SOE -- as an employee Mr.Strangl this includes you -- when are you going to realize this a paid-for online service? This is not a free beta. WTH should you expect any customer to wait for anything, let alone predict and try to persuade the game community that things will be working-as-designed or at least working-as-intended someday. Grow up! If you can't implement a change to correct a bug or situation admit it, so we can all decide intelligently if there are other parts of SWG we want to play or if this indeed is a game-breaker for us. You will have greater churn if you keep trying to appeal to the good will of your customers instead of providing them with accurate information, let alone what they want by consensus.
Thunderheart wrote:
I believe, as a fan who has been around since day one, that by the end of the summer, this game is really going to be incredible fun. When that happens, everyone will have a little more faith in the process and be a little more comfortable in the game.
TH responded:
Very astute Questions Drashk.
1. No. I told the devs and the devs heard.
2. well, for the time being, there will be no "high end" droids.
It will be the same as Pets - no handling over LvL 10.
UNLESS, I can get good feedback from you folks on how to implement them.
We WANT Droideka's in the game, but since they arent going on the DE tree, they have to go in some Skill tree that makes sense. Players MUST spend points and skill boxes to get this "Droid Handling" ability.
The devs intend on adding a "Droid Handler" profession (which would work like Creature Handlers) but thats a "next phase" thing and isn't going to be considered until Summertime (July-ish).
So in summary, if we were going to add Droidekas (above level 10), which skill trees would/should get the certs?
1. I went to Drashk with what the current dev plan was (the process was transparent).
2. Drashk said no way (he clearly communicated your wishes)
3. I told Drashk what the challenges we need to over come would be (which he posted).
4. I made a casual comment in the weekly comment thread (to find out what non-DE's thoughts were).
5. People protested the change (which was loud and clear).
6. I've gone to the Dev team to urge them to re-consider.
7. Runesabre is creating a post right now which will explain all the angles to the discussion.
Drashk said he wasnt allowd to give out any information, so noone ever knew what the dev plan was in detail but neverthelessmany complained about. I dont think anyone want a delay, why cant we be handled like normal professions, who get infos and discuss their stuff after it went to TC. i think i just drop the game until summer or whenever droid changes get in if ever.
i would prefer to isolate the hardcore crafters that havent dropped DE until now, they should be seperated from droid use and thus we need 2 classes DE and DH. it works for BE/CH it will for droids, even better cause droids cant be tamed.
Thunderheart wrote:
I believe, as a fan who has been around since day one, that by the end of the summer, this game is really going to be incredible fun. When that happens, everyone will have a little more faith in the process and be a little more comfortable in the game.
Until that time, Ill be pushing fans and devs and working for the best possible answer in any given situation.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress.
--Frederick Douglass
Im not gone from SWG, just on hiatus from DE itself.Re: Droid Invasion
I understand that the droids you are probosing may be powerful combat droids, or they may not be, we will not know til they are in game or we get some stats. But I do not understand why you are compating them to Creature Handler Pets. They are not pets, they are droids. Programable machines.
Creature Handler pets are living beings with personallities and manerisms that have to be dealt with by a trained Creature Handler (hense the Profession). Droids are machines that are programable (by a Droid Engineer) to act the way they program them, Obey who they program them to obey, ect......
To say that you need to spend SP or XP to be able to control a droid just doesn't make sese to me. If you want to make them profession specific fine (ie: Combat droid certs for combat professions, Surveying droid certs for crafting professions, ect....) and make the higher level droids only available to the Masters of those professions. But they should be the same droids available to all at certain levels (ie: Master Rifleman gets the same certs as a Master Carbineer), You can even give the Hybrid Classes specific droids (ie: Smuggler Droids, Bounty Hunter Droids, Combat Medic Droids). But not a seperate profession that is just absurd. This will bring about the same problems we had before the Creature Handler rebalancing last publish. All the bandwagon jumpers will flock to this profession and it will be R-o-b-o-P-o-k-e-m-o-n.
You also said something about Faction Pets. I am all for Making Faction pets dependent on Rank, but that should be all. I hope you are not thinking along the same lines and want to make us have to spend SP and XP to be able to control Faction Pets too. To me Faction Pets and Droids are much more similar than Droids and Creature Handler Pets.
Faction Pets - Soldiers who follow orders of thier superiors.
Droids - Machines who follow orders of who they are programed (by DE) to follow orders from.
CH Pets - Living beings with thier own personality and manerisms that need to be trained and controlled by someone who has the necessary skills and abilities to do so.
I also feel that if you want to really limit them and the amount that people can have and use they should take alot of resources and different types to make the higher the level ones. This will make them very expensive not only for the Droid Engineer to build but for the consumer to buy. Hopefully this will limit the amount players will be able to buy and Droid Engineers will be able to make.
I think Combat and other types of droids would be a great addition to the game, but if only a new profession (Droid Handler) or Droid Engineers are going to be the only ones able to use the high level ones I would rather not see them at all. I think it will just be a problem waiting to be NERFED.
Thunderheart wrote:
I dont diagree Norax. Still, Im always going to push the envelope on both sides. I push the devs as hard as I push the community - - its why I was chosen. Believe me, I've taken a beating today, but in the end, the issue is being looked at by the whole dev team, the community and everyone is involved. I have been the catharsis and thats what its all about; stiff discussion and debate is good for the community and the game.
I believe, as a fan who has been around since day one, that by the end of the summer, this game is really going to be incredible fun. When that happens, everyone will have a little more faith in the process and be a little more comfortable in the game.
Until that time, Ill be pushing fans and devs and working for the best possible answer in any given situation.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress.
--Frederick Douglass
Do or do not. There is not try.
--Yoda
I love the part where he says that the game will be fun in about 6 months time.
Hmmmm...what does THAT tell us???
/bow
Respectfully,
Actually, it might not be quite THAT early, but now development speed is constrained by production issues.