Droid Engineer Archive
Thread: I guess the worst they can do is ban me
That post will be by Runesabre as soon as is possible. Hopefully tomorrow or Thursday.
I am telling you what I was told. Any time work is done in high pressure situations, everything is a moving target and at any time, Im giving you my best guess.
Its not done yet because Runesabre has a lot of responsibilities and taking time to post things isnt always possible. He posts when he can, but if something more important comes up, it gets bumped down the priority list. If something regarding the publish comes up tomorrow and it takes RS all day to tend to it, then it gets bumped again. It might get bumped Thursday too and it might night. It all depends on how the work day goes. Everyone here is working long hard days to get the publish out and that is the team's focus.
Thats just the way it goes.
Fully understandable, thanks.
Sometimes a "sorry" goes a long way though.
Thunderheart wrote:I am telling you what I was told. Any time work is done in high pressure situations, everything is a moving target and at any time, Im giving you my best guess.
Its not done yet because Runesabre has a lot of responsibilities and taking time to post things isnt always possible. He posts when he can, but if something more important comes up, it gets bumped down the priority list. If something regarding the publish comes up tomorrow and it takes RS all day to tend to it, then it gets bumped again. It might get bumped Thursday too and it might night. It all depends on how the work day goes. Everyone here is working long hard days to get the publish out and that is the team's focus.
Thats just the way it goes.
You may wanna add to your sig a disclaimer saying something like ``Dates stated in the above post are best guess.''
Thats what always gets you crucified by the community, you give times and dates without stating that they're a guesstimate. Then do to circumstances that are probably completely out of control the deadline you gave isnt met and everyone starts jumping all over you.
-norax
darkmane wrote:
Please stop giving dates until you are sure... it is only hurting your credibility.
why does this hurt credibility, come on people. I'm dissapointed it wasn't today, but relax. Devs don't "lie" just to piss you off, use your brian. Be civil and type up and get readythe retort to the DH idea you'll respond with to runesaber instead of just throwing out silly accusations and wasting thread space with worthless posts. Honestly, I'm tired of hearing these date debates. If something doesn't get done theres a reason. Its not all a conspiracy to steal your cash.
Now, obviously they didn't understand what we wanted so theres room to be angry, but can we stop with the "YOU LIE!!!" and just be constructive for once. Fix things, instead of troll.
eagerly, but patiently awaiting runesaber so we can fix this mess,
Lyrn
I dont diagree Norax. Still, Im always going to push the envelope on both sides. I push the devs as hard as I push the community - - its why I was chosen. Believe me, I've taken a beating today, but in the end, the issue is being looked at by the whole dev team, the community and everyone is involved. I have been the catharsis and thats what its all about; stiff discussion and debate is good for the community and the game.
I believe, as a fan who has been around since day one, that by the end of the summer, this game is really going to be incredible fun. When that happens, everyone will have a little more faith in the process and be a little more comfortable in the game.
Until that time, Ill be pushing fans and devs and working for the best possible answer in any given situation.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress.
--Frederick Douglass
TH on the whole you have been a great improvement to the SWG world. I dont doubt your intentions.
The fact that your first communication since the much disliked revamp of the forums and the thread of 300 topics was clearly a mistake, most likely in your interpretation ofwhat was wanted has caused probably a little too much acid to be spat your way.
The silence since before Christmas, the fairly impressive BE **edit**-up and then this caused a few trigger fingers to flinch.
Today we see the in-concept forum spring to life and that should be good.
Anyway onto droids.....
hows about this for a Droid Usage Certification system.
Droids upto the equivalent of CL10 can be used by anybody
Higher Level Droids can be operated by :
All --> A droid Engineer (related to 1 of the 4 trees, prob. experimentation)
The rest of use have to earn them via a cerificate granted from Faction Point expenditure some of which require you to be overt.
Thus we encourage the GCW allow anyone to use them and dont need a new class !
Be Well, Bob'the Builder
Thunderheart wrote:
I dont diagree Norax. Still, Im always going to push the envelope on both sides. I push the devs as hard as I push the community - - its why I was chosen. Believe me, I've taken a beating today, but in the end, the issue is being looked at by the whole dev team, the community and everyone is involved. I have been the catharsis and thats what its all about; stiff discussion and debate is good for the community and the game.
Thunderheart. You have taken a beating today. Most of that was due to the fact that the wording of your original postmade it seemthat the decision to implement a Droid Handler profession was 1) Certain and Inevitable, and 2) Approved of by the vast "majority" of the DE populace. Obviously, by re-examining almost all the posts involved over the last 24 hours, we are lead to understand that both of these perceptions are wrong (from what we can ascertain).
What I don't understand is this. ALL of this could have been avoided ifthe "In Concept" forum was used to pitch the Droid Handler *idea* before this whole thing degenerated into a verbal cacophany of screaming, name calling, failed expectations, and chaos.That's not even addressing the fact that Drashk warned you this would happen.
It would have been much safer for you to have posted the seed that spawned this whole quagmire in the "In Concept" forum, and we could have all brought our thoughts together in one, singular hall of discussion and under the obvious guise of "discussion on stuff that is conceptual only."
Thunderheart wrote:
I dont diagree Norax. Still, Im always going to push the envelope on both sides. I push the devs as hard as I push the community - - its why I was chosen. Believe me, I've taken a beating today, but in the end, the issue is being looked at by the whole dev team, the community and everyone is involved. I have been the catharsis and thats what its all about; stiff discussion and debate is good for the community and the game.
I believe, as a fan who has been around since day one, that by the end of the summer, this game is really going to be incredible fun. When that happens, everyone will have a little more faith in the process and be a little more comfortable in the game.
Until that time, Ill be pushing fans and devs and working for the best possible answer in any given situation.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress.
--Frederick Douglass
In oct it was EXCITING things are coming soon...you pumped us up for jan/feb...OR so i was led to believe...now you are saying end of summer...what a bunch of bantha dung! I really trully believe this whole DH screw up was stall tatics...I have had about enough of this game!
Thunderheart wrote:I believe, as a fan who has been around since day one, that by the end of the summer, this game is really going to be incredible fun.
Ouch
So you admit the game isnt funny right now?
If you think so ... what you think needs to be changed?
So finally the game will be funny 1.3 years after release ... not bad.
Thunderheart wrote:
I am telling you what I was told. Any time work is done in high pressure situations, everything is a moving target and at any time, Im giving you my best guess.
Its not done yet because Runesabre has a lot of responsibilities and taking time to post things isnt always possible. He posts when he can, but if something more important comes up, it gets bumped down the priority list. If something regarding the publish comes up tomorrow and it takes RS all day to tend to it, then it gets bumped again. It might get bumped Thursday too and it might night. It all depends on how the work day goes. Everyone here is working long hard days to get the publish out and that is the team's focus.
Thats just the way it goes.
First of all, in the Star Wars universe, droids are incredibly central to the theme and feel of the universe.
DE's have been told that we are "the top priority".
Thunderheart, I am asking - if we aren't going to get feedback, please, just tell us so. There is a whole list of things we were promised - updates, the de-nerf of the probot, information, fixes, combat droids in January (July now?!?!) - that just never materialized, or came through months late. This makes this community very skeptical of anything. And the sequence of events - whether intentional or not - reguarding the announcement of intention to form a seperate droid handler class, was like throwing gas on a bonfire.
This is not a rant, though I am feeling pretty bitter right now. But if you really want to see these forums be productive, it has to be a two way street.
As a software engineer myself, I fully understand slippage. However, you can't slip on every single deliverable and still expect to have people expect candor in your promises out of you.