Droid Engineer Archive
Thread: Droid decay proposal Version 0.3
11710
Sat Mar 05, 2005 3:03 pm
#92
I think it would be an awsome idea for droids to take on wear and tear. Not just because im broke, but it would make sense because all mechanical things stop working with time. And I would also like to see the subcomponents put into droids affect its integrity and the duration of its components. Ex: If you put a brain with low heat shielding the droid stops working or its face explodes or something untill it is stored and called.
DigitalOne
Sun Mar 06, 2005 1:06 pm
#93
Trust me, subcomponent experementation = more trouble than its worth.
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=droid_engineer&message.id=103429&highlight=the+case+against+subcomponent+experementation#M103429
Naurbrannon
Tue Mar 08, 2005 5:21 am
#94
Proposal:
I think droids should not be able to heal themselves without an autorepair module
example: While fighting I get my probot droid killed, I store it on my datapad and the day after when I call it back it's full health again
I think damage should be repaired only by autorepair modules, repair modules and repair kits,
wounds only by reconstruction kits,
no autoheal while time passes
I think that would really greatly increase repair kits sells
I think droids should not be able to heal themselves without an autorepair module
example: While fighting I get my probot droid killed, I store it on my datapad and the day after when I call it back it's full health again
I think damage should be repaired only by autorepair modules, repair modules and repair kits,
wounds only by reconstruction kits,
no autoheal while time passes
I think that would really greatly increase repair kits sells
Blatz
Tue Mar 08, 2005 12:54 pm
#95
Okay my 2 cents worth as a long time DE: I would support droid decay only for combat situations where some form of physical damage is invloved, not unlike the current armor model. Droids in the Star Wars universe are supposed to last a long time. Certainly a lifetime or more, and to have them fall apart after 2 or 3 months is a bit silly. Hell even my Chevrolet will last longer than that. I for one would not even bother with owning a droid if that is the case, as this game is already too time consuming without having to replace my droids after emptying them out and finding someone to make yet another one. (Even if that someone is me)
Combat droids could be made stonger if the decay was the price to be paid. This would address the current useless nature of combat droids in general and provide a new revenue stream for most DE's.
Again, this is just one DE's opinion,
Drashk
Tue Mar 08, 2005 6:20 pm
#96
Blatz wrote:
Droids in the Star Wars universe are supposed to last a long time. Certainly a lifetime or more, and to have them fall apart after 2 or 3 months is a bit silly. Hell even my Chevrolet will last longer than that. I for one would not even bother with owning a droid if that is the case, as this game is already too time consuming without having to replace my droids after emptying them out and finding someone to make yet another one. (Even if that someone is me)
What would you consider a lifetime, in a MMORPG, that is based upon a player economy?
A lifetime is a very subjective thing, when using it in the context of a virtual world, where mostpeople do not survive the entire life cycle of a MMORPG. SWG will more then likely have a shelf life of 5-7 years. From a 'realistic' perspective, each time the sun rises and sets, a day passes. How many day cycles pass on the server, in any given 24 hour period of time, in real life? How many years old are some characters, that have been around since day one, errrr day two, of the servers being launched? Much like there is a way to convert a dogs life span to human years, so must we consider the conversion of our characters life time in game years. We also have to condsider that even if you aren't actually logged into the game, your character can still be considered persistent, due to the effect that it has on its world environment, such as houses that you have placed, etc.
One month of real life time in SWG is close to, if not more then, 1 year of game time, though there isn't any actual Star Wars Universe timeline being followed.
Something else to consider, when trying to compare droids in SWG and droids in the Star Wars Universe - The droids mentioned in the movies, books, and other reference material are just like your character. They are the heros. (here I go again with the heros speech 
) Heros are supposed to fight the good fight and live to see another day. The droids that we own are not the heros. They are just another set of NPCs that disappear and are never heard of again, when the credits roll. They don't have their names listed anywhere in the movies, because they are the extras that fill a scene.
) Heros are supposed to fight the good fight and live to see another day. The droids that we own are not the heros. They are just another set of NPCs that disappear and are never heard of again, when the credits roll. They don't have their names listed anywhere in the movies, because they are the extras that fill a scene. Just a few thoughts to mull over. 
TheRealTK421
Tue Mar 08, 2005 8:36 pm
#97
For an individual droid-buyer, it's till the fun runs out.
Drashk wrote:
Blatz wrote:
Droids in the Star Wars universe are supposed to last a long time. Certainly a lifetime or more, and to have them fall apart after 2 or 3 months is a bit silly. Hell even my Chevrolet will last longer than that. I for one would not even bother with owning a droid if that is the case, as this game is already too time consuming without having to replace my droids after emptying them out and finding someone to make yet another one. (Even if that someone is me)
What would you consider a lifetime, in a MMORPG, that is based upon a player economy?
/bow
Respectfully,
Naurbrannon
Wed Mar 09, 2005 12:54 pm
#98
Blatz wrote:
Droids in the Star Wars universe are supposed to last a long time.
They are supposed to last long with manteniance, C-3PO needed an oil bath after few days on tatooine 
Krosc
Sat Mar 26, 2005 4:31 am
#99
Blatz wrote:
Droids in the Star Wars universe are supposed to last a long time. Certainly a lifetime or more, and to have them fall apart after 2 or 3 months is a bit silly.
Well I have also seen 2000 year old swords that are superior to most made today. But in SWG a sword will fall apart in no time. Shoot, my speeder starts to blow up after 30 minutes. Glad my Harley does not do that (though it often sounds like it will).
Mightion
Thu Mar 31, 2005 1:38 pm
#100
I like this proposal, especially the refurbishment kit/center ideas. 
For flavor, I would suggest the "reconstruction tool" occasionally require subcomponents, for example:
"This droid's sensor module is worn out. Please insert a new one," or, "This R2 unit has a bad motivator. Look! Please insert a new advanced droid motive unit."
You get the idea.
But yes, this proposal I can get behind. I didn't like the ones that advocated the droids decay to irreparability.
I didn't like the ones that advocated the droids decay to irreparability.
sinisterpropoise
Mon Apr 04, 2005 12:38 am
#101
Wouldn't it be better if droids, like starships were made modular? The chassis lasts a long time but individual components wear out and the user can upgrade/change components based on the user's need. (A bit like ships are now.) It would be cool and appropriate if I could take the creature harvester out of my mouse droid and put oh say, a weapon crafting station in if I dropped scout for weaponsmith.
Jenden
Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:43 pm
#102
sinisterpropoise wrote:Wouldn't it be better if droids, like starships were made modular? The chassis lasts a long time but individual components wear out and the user can upgrade/change components based on the user's need. (A bit like ships are now.) It would be cool and appropriate if I could take the creature harvester out of my mouse droid and put oh say, a weapon crafting station in if I dropped scout for weaponsmith.
There have been many long/thoughtful discussions on this topic, but the end result has always been that a modularity system would:
- Commodify our professions (DE's would just supply modules, and for dirt cheap on the bazaar at that)
- Make the profession even more complicated than it currently is (or at the very least shift a lot of the complexity from the DE to the customer)
- Not increase the sales of new drois, just modules
- Not provide anything other than a bit of a "coolness" factor
- Take an obscene amount of dev time that could be much better spent elsewhere (the entire droid system would have to be rewritten)
- Not be backwards compatible with older droids
There are probably some that I'm forgetting...
Message Edited by Jenden on 04-04-2005 09:44 PM
Evu
Fri Apr 29, 2005 3:55 pm
#103
I'm a master Droid engineer and I would only support this if its only for combat droids...not for the general droids like for crafting or are used for medical or entertainment.
People would not buy droids if they all would just decay over time, I think it would more ruin the Droid Engineers business rather then give them more business.
Also droids in starwars didn't really decay, because in some way they had ways of fixing themselves, or ways of getting fixed.
so please keep the decay to the combat droids.
People would not buy droids if they all would just decay over time, I think it would more ruin the Droid Engineers business rather then give them more business.
Also droids in starwars didn't really decay, because in some way they had ways of fixing themselves, or ways of getting fixed.
so please keep the decay to the combat droids.
Evu
Fri Apr 29, 2005 5:44 pm
#104
Can't find the edit button:
But I want to add that having droids decay over a 3-4 month period is totally aggenst the Star wars lore...
The spider droids in jabba's palace then would not exsist if droids decayed at such a rate..
Also the IG-88 Bounty hunter wouldn't even exsist.
Again I'll add that decay on droids should stay with the combat droids, thats it...rest I think should stick with the Lore of Star Wars. Droids last long enough that they out live the owner.
Anyways thats my 2 Cents on this..
Sorry to double post, I just can't find an edit button to even edit my current one.
Thankyou
-Evu