Droid Engineer Archive
Thread: Droid decay proposal Version 0.3
And it should be something that just the DE can do..not a BE
who can make kits to fix vitability even on the droids.
ok, I love this proposal.
Next, for those that say a 3-4 month decay time is against the lore, think again. We're talking 3-4 months in real time. How often have you experienced a day change in-game, in just a single session, let alone a whole 24 hours? The universe is accellerated against our own time, eg. time moves faster in-game. Yes, I realize different planets change day cycles at different times, but Naboo (a planet similar to Earth) would have a similar day cycle, yet it goes through atLEAST 3 days per one day real-time.
Point is: decay is happening so fast because time is moving fast. 3-4 months would be equal to about 9-12 months game-time (min). That's a whole year. Even non-com droids take damage from moving parts, decaying wires, etc. over a whole year. Granted, they wouldn't need replacing, so I actually agree with you on the combat only decay.
If you need more proof, look to the literature. IG-88 himself(s) required maintenance withinjust a few months of going on the lamb, as it were. R2 and 3P0 required CONSTANT maintenance to even keep running. I'm pretty sure R2 had a chassis replacement after Ep 4. Do you think R2s jets still worked after being dunked in Yoda's swimming pool? (I'd like to see a droid with jets, btw). How about that R5 unit that blew a motivator? Do you think it had a recent maintenance visit? The spider droids, btw maintain themselves, according to literature. That is, they repair each other as needed.
Anyway, I hope you see my point.
I really hope they help this profession, cause I left itto get a second char slot so I could have a char that does nothing but build droids and ships.
Darkkn2069 wrote:
ok, I love this proposal.
Next, for those that say a 3-4 month decay time is against the lore, think again. We're talking 3-4 months in real time. How often have you experienced a day change in-game, in just a single session, let alone a whole 24 hours? The universe is accellerated against our own time, eg. time moves faster in-game. Yes, I realize different planets change day cycles at different times, but Naboo (a planet similar to Earth) would have a similar day cycle, yet it goes through at LEAST 3 days per one day real-time.
Point is: decay is happening so fast because time is moving fast. 3-4 months would be equal to about 9-12 months game-time (min). That's a whole year. Even non-com droids take damage from moving parts, decaying wires, etc. over a whole year. Granted, they wouldn't need replacing, so I actually agree with you on the combat only decay.
If you need more proof, look to the literature. IG-88 himself(s) required maintenance within just a few months of going on the lamb, as it were. R2 and 3P0 required CONSTANT maintenance to even keep running. I'm pretty sure R2 had a chassis replacement after Ep 4. Do you think R2s jets still worked after being dunked in Yoda's swimming pool? (I'd like to see a droid with jets, btw). How about that R5 unit that blew a motivator? Do you think it had a recent maintenance visit? The spider droids, btw maintain themselves, according to literature. That is, they repair each other as needed.
Anyway, I hope you see my point.
I really hope they help this profession, cause I left it to get a second char slot so I could have a char that does nothing but build droids and ships.
The day and night change is more as a visual, if you notice, and would go and browse say like the bazaar, your merchants, look at your terminal in your house. That all goes by real time...
So even though the game gives us a nice visual, it most definately goes by real time. Why can't the droids? Or are you saying that most of the player characters with the game have also lived well beyond 10 million years?
Take your armor, or your clothing, most definately clothing lasts much longer then 3-4 months, unless your in constant battle. Thats how it should be with the droids. Have them decay if damaged. But don't put a time limit on it.
If everything worked like that in the game, you would have alot of players who are naked, and weaponless..really to me I would see it more of a pain, then fun.
So I do disagree with you, the game does go by real time even though we have a pretty visual of day and night.
Also I want to add that I have stated t his before to in the previous post, that droids either had ways of fixing themselves (which we have kindof with auto repair) or to be fixed.
If a decay is in order, then allow the DE to fix the droid..add modules to it to upgrade, also in the process give us new droid designs which are frankly needed well beyond its time. But don't render them useless in such a short time frame.
Actually after some thought, this is what I think would really bring interest rather then making each and every non-combatent droid decay..and really its needed and I know its been mentioned on other threads.
- Droid Upgrades, module changes (only done by the DE)
- DE only repair, as was mentioned before ((not BE pet repair kits, kits that can only be gotten by a DE or a DE to do repair themselves, this would be used on your droids that where damaged in combat))
- New Designs (new droids!!!)
- More Modules (new effects, ect..what ever you can think of, hey even a nice holo-gram projector would be nice with in droids)
- Leave only Decay with combat ((maybe even boost it slightly since Combat droids do seem to decay way...slow))
Right there alone would really help so much more, just leave it to combat if we want decay. Speed it up a little, they decay way to slow anyways as it is. And should decay because they are in combat and getting beat on. ((but not 3-4 months maybe 5-9 months))
One of the most popular sellers I think is combat droids, by far at least for me..along with your BH/Smuggler droids. New modules, allowing the droid engineer to swap modules for players for a fee would also boost credits, and give alot of interest.
If a non-combat droid is damaged, then very well I see decay, and it should decay. But, a droid or any item shouldn't decay if you take out for a minute, to get something out of storage.
Anyways thats my 2 cents once again about the matter
Message Edited by Evu on 07-15-2005 05:39 AM
Indeed it is important to remember that customers will turn away from droids if fast decay exists. If decay does exist in the game then it should only followed up with additional functionallity and improvements otherwise people will only buy creatures for combat.
As a side note,day and nightcycle at a different rate because the world spins at a different rate then earth. It is important in game to run along the same timeline as our own ie 1 day in game is 1 day outside because otherwise it would be to complete say if u had 1 Tatoonie day = 1.37 Naboo day lol.
Oh also forgot, this would be a good way to 'upgrade' a droid by exchangeing the chassi but keep some of the parts kinda as a trade in. Say, make the droid from an R5 to an R2 or something. You could charge almost as much as you normaly would, but mabey lower the price a little or something.
Also, an option for DEs only to re deed droids would be nice so that we could re sell droids we nolonger use, or mabey allow us to buy droids from someone who would otherwise throw it out and re sell it. I doubt this would be used often, but it would be nice just the same.
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